water cooling

[Rami7007]

just 4 words...


Is it worth it?

 

[akira34]

depends on what you're looking to do/get from it.

 

[Rami7007]

well if you are building a gaming pc...

 

[1sikbITCH]

For you, on that system, I would say No.

1. Your system will already be so fast that even if you do overclock, you probably won't notice any real gains in performance. You can probably still get a decent overclock without watercooling. By the way, I don't see your heatsink listed. I wonder if you are just going to use the retail heatsink?

2. That's a lot of money you have invested. If you are a watercooling noob, might want to experiment and learn on your secondary or backup machine instead of that one. Once you've gained experience, than maybe.

Now, if you just want to build a watercooled rig because you like it, and you're filthy rich, than hell yeah it's worth it. Or if you had said "to make it quiet" then maybe. Still have to have at least one 120mm fan on the radiator, but it's a lot less than cpu fan + a couple case fans.

I've got a 226watt peltier that's been sitting in my drawer for a year now, and just ordered the Meanwell power supply for it. I've had to forget about it and take care of Real Life. But now I'll start piecing together a WC setup to cool the peltier, and stick it on one of the older rigs I've got laying around. I want to see frost on that mofo before it melts

 

[Edward Lee]

I think it's the same analogy as getting a saltwater fish tank.
The saltwater tank is prettier, more expensive to start and takes a lot of care in keeping in good running order. Overall it would be nice to have but not many people opt for it because of the hassle. That's what I think a water cooling system is.

 

[BigHurt]

Originally posted by: Edward Lee
I think it's the same analogy as getting a saltwater fish tank.
The saltwater tank is prettier, more expensive to start and takes a lot of care in keeping in good running order. Overall it would be nice to have but not many people opt for it because of the hassle. That's what I think a water cooling system is.

honestly, you are such a hate-tank.
you never have any positive comments or encourage any type of pc modifications. I wouldnt be surprised if you were running an e-machines.

 

[Edward Lee]

Originally posted by: BigHurt

Originally posted by: Edward Lee
I think it's the same analogy as getting a saltwater fish tank.
The saltwater tank is prettier, more expensive to start and takes a lot of care in keeping in good running order. Overall it would be nice to have but not many people opt for it because of the hassle. That's what I think a water cooling system is.

honestly, you are such a hate-tank.
you never have any positive comments or encourage any type of pc modifications. I wouldnt be surprised if you were running an e-machines.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I support good ideas.

Speak baby talk to me again..

 

[BigHurt]

Originally posted by: Edward Lee

Originally posted by: BigHurt

Originally posted by: Edward Lee
I think it's the same analogy as getting a saltwater fish tank.
The saltwater tank is prettier, more expensive to start and takes a lot of care in keeping in good running order. Overall it would be nice to have but not many people opt for it because of the hassle. That's what I think a water cooling system is.

honestly, you are such a hate-tank.
you never have any positive comments or encourage any type of pc modifications. I wouldnt be surprised if you were running an e-machines.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I support good ideas.

Speak baby talk to me again..

every forum ive read that youve been involved in was always negative. and if you dont know what im talking about, then you obviously havent read 99% of the responses ppl have to you.
kthx

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: Rami7007
well if you are building a gaming pc...

If you don't mind spending the extra money, learning about the process and maintaining an installed water-cooler, it compliments a gamer rig quite well. The cool operation of FRU's equals stability, and a hardcore gamer box can use as much stabilty as possible.

 

[rpmcrash]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: Rami7007
well if you are building a gaming pc...

If you don't mind spending the extra money, learning about the process and maintaining an installed water-cooler, it compliments a gamer rig quite well. The cool operation of FRU's equals stability, and a hardcore gamer box can use as much stabilty as possible.

I agree. I will be going to water cooling as soon as i find a 6800 ut pci-e.
and chaintec releases a Bios up date so i can oc.

 

[echow87]

well...watercooling is for:

-cooler cpu temps for higher o/c
-quiet
-looks cool

Plus some ppl have high-end cpu and they still watercool, waterchill, phase change, dry ice, ln2 because its like a hobby where everyone is competing against each other at benchmarking (3dmark01/03/05) or just trying to achieve their goal such as getting a score of 35,000 for 3d01.

 

[Edward Lee]

Originally posted by: BigHurt

Originally posted by: Edward Lee

Originally posted by: BigHurt

Originally posted by: Edward Lee
I think it's the same analogy as getting a saltwater fish tank.
The saltwater tank is prettier, more expensive to start and takes a lot of care in keeping in good running order. Overall it would be nice to have but not many people opt for it because of the hassle. That's what I think a water cooling system is.

honestly, you are such a hate-tank.
you never have any positive comments or encourage any type of pc modifications. I wouldnt be surprised if you were running an e-machines.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I support good ideas.

Speak baby talk to me again..

every forum ive read that youve been involved in was always negative. and if you dont know what im talking about, then you obviously havent read 99% of the responses ppl have to you.
kthx

And how is this comment I made about water cooling hating?

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: Edward Lee

Originally posted by: BigHurt

Originally posted by: Edward Lee

Originally posted by: BigHurt

Originally posted by: Edward Lee
I think it's the same analogy as getting a saltwater fish tank.
The saltwater tank is prettier, more expensive to start and takes a lot of care in keeping in good running order. Overall it would be nice to have but not many people opt for it because of the hassle. That's what I think a water cooling system is.

honestly, you are such a hate-tank.
you never have any positive comments or encourage any type of pc modifications. I wouldnt be surprised if you were running an e-machines.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I support good ideas.

Speak baby talk to me again..

every forum ive read that youve been involved in was always negative. and if you dont know what im talking about, then you obviously havent read 99% of the responses ppl have to you.
kthx

And how is this comment I made about water cooling hating?

I don't think hateful was the right word. Maybe unduly discouraging would have been more applicable. Having kept marine tanks for 10-years I can tell you, your analogy stinks. In order to keep marine fish with any success one needs an intimate understanding of filtration, chemistry, marine biology and depending on what you decide to keep, symbiotic relationships. Moreover, maintaining a marine community tank requires almost daily maintenance. Water-cooling is no where NEAR as complex. You decide what you want to cool, apply blocks to those devices linked by tubing, fill and test your loop and go on from there. After the initial shakedown, a WC loop can be left to run for months without needing to be maintained, or otherwise worried about. For that little bit of effort you get a far more stable and attractive computer and no death.

 

[imported_SiberianX37]

Hey guys I was just wondering, i'm a complete n00b to watercooling and i'm currently buidling a system with asus a8v deluxe mobo, amd 64 bit 3500+, socket 939, i don't know yet the memory or the case, but i will have 2 - 3 optical drives and 2 - 4 hard drives. First off, how much of a power source would i need to support 3 opticals and 4 hds and if i'll overclock the whole thing, do you guys think this water cooling system would be good? http://www.pctoyland.com/prod_642.htm and here's another link http://www.cluboc.net/reviews/...liquidcooler/index.htm

and if it will work for a socket 939, and if u guys don't think it's a good idea, can u recommend something else for under 100 bux. or if possible can u give me a good idea of a fan and heatsink that i could buy

Thanks Everyone

 

[Elvis2]

it was well worth it for me i get a 700mhz o/c on stock voltage. it's nice and quiet and runs cool. can be adapted to any cpu/mb combo. i'll never go back to air.

 

[FEAGEEK]

Water cooling is a great alternative to liquid cooling if it is necessary.
I water cooled my rig because of the monster performance increase for running large analysis jobs for very long periods of time (100 hrs @ 100% system utilization).
In my experience with water cooling, building your own kit is the best way.
I perfer stuff from danger den.
Their stuff is very high quality, great service (if needed), and performs outstanding.
Water cooling done right is not cheap ($400-$500), but the performance and stability are without equal.
A well done water cooled system should be virtually silently ina quiet room.
My backup 160GB external Seagate HD is louder than my entire system running at full load.

As for cases, I perfer my Antec 1080.
It has lots of room and is well made.
For Power Supply, I swear by the Antec NeoPower 480.
Very steady, lots of power, and very very quite.

Hope this helps

 

[FEAGEEK]

Oops I meant that liquid cooling is a great alternative the air cooling.

 

[bupkus]

Hey, BigHurt, Edward Lee has his opinion and he stated it. But no, you have to chime in and make it a personal issue. Why not just state your opinion about water cooling and be done with it. Who wants to hear your opinion about EL anyway. Take it outside!
As to you, HardWarrior, so you know about Marine tanks, who cares. It's like some people would rather thrash a person than present informed argument. Therapy, people.

Please, just stay on topic. We readers will sift through the opinions and judge for ourselves.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: SiberianX37
Hey guys I was just wondering, i'm a complete n00b to watercooling and i'm currently buidling a system with asus a8v deluxe mobo, amd 64 bit 3500+, socket 939, i don't know yet the memory or the case, but i will have 2 - 3 optical drives and 2 - 4 hard drives. First off, how much of a power source would i need to support 3 opticals and 4 hds and if i'll overclock the whole thing, do you guys think this water cooling system would be good? http://www.pctoyland.com/prod_642.htm and here's another link http://www.cluboc.net/reviews/...liquidcooler/index.htm

and if it will work for a socket 939, and if u guys don't think it's a good idea, can u recommend something else for under 100 bux. or if possible can u give me a good idea of a fan and heatsink that i could buy

Thanks Everyone

A 450 to be safe. My system has a power load similar to yours and it burns 405 watts.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: bupkus
As to you, HardWarrior, so you know about Marine tanks, who cares. It's like some people would rather thrash a person than present informed argument. Therapy, people.

Shut up stupid. The next time I see you crap a thread like this you'll get reported, flame-baiting idiot.

 

[ggjb]

Water cooling is sexy, especially when you install it correctly. Don't be afraid to jump right in. The advantages far out-weigh the disadvantages.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: ggjb
Water cooling is sexy, especially when you install it correctly. Don't be afraid to jump right in. The advantages far out-weigh the disadvantages.

When people jump "right in" it more often than not equates to another horror story. Which is bad for water-cooling in general. I would suggest that anyone who wants to jump in take the time to understand what they're getting into first.