Water pump start and stop intermittently

mxnerd

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My Wayne 1/2 HP water pump used to work properly, since half year ago, it suddenly to work irregularly.

Sometimes it pump for 5 seconds and rest a while, sometimes 10 seconds and rest a while, sometimes 2-3 minutes, and and the rest period can be seconds to minutes, all irregularity.

What exactly was going on?
 
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MagnusTheBrewer

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My Wayne 1/2 HP water pump used to work properly, since half year ago, it suddenly to work irregularly.

Sometimes it pump for 5 seconds and rest a while, sometimes 10 seconds and rest a while, sometimes 2-3 minutes, and and the rest period can be seconds to minutes, all irregularity.

What exactly was going on?
Air leak in the system?
 

mindless1

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Define "work". Does the pump stop spinning or just water isn't being moved? If the pump stops spinning it could have a thermal breaker that's going bad.
 

mxnerd

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This is weird, it worked a few times last week and water flows smoothly. Now the water pump just make humming noise and the motor won't spin. I remove the bottom plate and try to turn the shift manually, it turned but was tight, but not very tight.

So what kind a problem is this?

I have tried the method here, but didn't help. Did not hear any corrosion sound.

 
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mindless1

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Does your model have a pressure switch that might be failing and tripping it off before the pressure is reached, or a blockage or kink in the hose?

The video could be misleading. It is true that you might get a stuck motor spinning by forcing it to start spinning manually till enough friction is overcome for the motor torque to keep it spinning but if that is the problem, you barely have a gap and the same corrosion that shouldn't be there will soon enough grow back.

Plus it may not be the problem. Did it get wet inside? The seal behind the impeller may have failed if not magnetic driven. It might instead have failed from lack of lubrication in the bearings and the last thing you should do then is try to force it to spin then run it for a long time chewing up the bearings instead of only moving the shaft enough to get it apart far enough to lube the bearings.

If your impeller is shot and falling apart that too could cause it to not spin freely. You could have motor coils shorting out, especially if you do have enough corrosion to also impede rotation, that can easily abrade away the winding enamel.

A decent motor can be taken apart. See if you can and look for problems. Lube the bearings while you have access. Check the motor capacitor if it has one. Check the resistance of the windings with a multimeter.

If you can't get it apart, odds are you will need a new pump soon even if you manage to get it to spin for a while but I suppose a while beats nothing if it were something like a hurricane, flooding basement, etc emergency scenario.

Does it have a built in fan and might that need cleaned and it's mostly overheating? That too, should be obvious if you can get it disassembled.

Wayne has some parts for a few of theirs:
https://www.waynepumps.com/product-category/wayne-replacement-parts-and-accessories/?product-page=2
 
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mindless1

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^ Why add to landfills if you don't have to? Plus, that $150... multiplied by dozens if not hundreds of things we own, adds up!

Granted it may be outside the scope of a person's DIY repair abilities or parts availability. Spend too much time on one thing and you don't have enough for something else, but in this case mxnerd seems to want to pursue the DIY option.
 

pcgeek11

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Decouple the motor from the pump.

Does the motor run without the pump attached?

Yes, motor runs without pump - Buy repair kit for the pump assembly and rebuild pump.

No, motor does not run. - Toss it and buy a new one. A 1/2 HP motor would run nearly as much as new pump assembly.
 

pcgeek11

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^ Why add to landfills if you don't have to? Plus, that $150... multiplied by dozens if not hundreds of things we own, adds up!

Granted it may be outside the scope of a person's DIY repair abilities or parts availability. Spend too much time on one thing and you don't have enough for something else, but in this case mxnerd seems to want to pursue the DIY option.


I didn't say toss it in a landfill. There are many places that recycle electric motors etc...

It could also be the brushes are worn out or a corroded commutator etc... depending on the model.
 

mxnerd

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Disassembled the pump with another 3 screws. Everything looks good, motor looks clean, impeller intact, no corrosion or anything.

Just making humming sound and won't spin. Will buy a new one.
 
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mohammednsaleh

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My Wayne 1/2 HP water pump used to work properly, since half year ago, it suddenly to work irregularly.

Sometimes it pump for 5 seconds and rest a while, sometimes 10 seconds and rest a while, sometimes 2-3 minutes, and and the rest period can be seconds to minutes, all irregularity.

What exactly was going on?
The same problem
 

pcgeek11

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More information needed.

What type of system is this pump installed in?

Does it just stop like a loss of power or does it hum and not spin?

Does the system have a pressure cutoff switch that could be turning it off?

Will the motor run without the pump attached?

Can you spin the pump with the motor decoupled?
 
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