You get in that position (being confronted by many here) because of your proven bias record. I exposed you and you mentioned my CPU, what the hell??? You're nothing but a AMD basher, that's all you're been doing since 290X released and are beating your beloved GTX780. Get a life, you just want to argue for the sake of it.
Right I'm bias, meanwhile you're attempting to discredit all the results as not being enough when I'm offering the only thing showing anything one way or the other. Makes perfect sense, given my issues here have always been with the AMD fan club. Obviously as a memeber of said club you took offense and proceeded to try to "out me" in what can only be described as a painfully awkward and clumsy effort at best.
You exposed nothing, you're clearly delusional while you sit there behind your AMD bias trying to pretend someone else is bias so you can attack them. That's the only way you can rationalize it, because of your clear AMD bias you feel anything I say which doesn't smell of roses towards AMD is due to a bias against them when in reality it is just the facts as they're currently presented, facts you can't dispute yet attempt to downplay.
Oh so now because I'm saying the R290X might not be faster than the 780 OC vs OC I must be bashing AMD and a AMD hater. I guess if I was a delusional fanboy that rational is as good as any.
The truth is actually much simpler than some delusional amd fanboy would like it to be.
At $650+ the 780s only merits were the Nvidia software suite and their proprietary offerings as well as it's proven overclocking capabilities. That said at that price it wasn't the best choice against the unknown capabilities of 290X. A card which is quite obviously faster at stock, although suffers painfully for a terrible cooler you could say for non overclockers the quite bios offered better out of box performance than the 780 reference and similar performance to the more expensive aftermarket overclocked out of the box 780s. Still all things considered the price difference was much too large, the 780 didn't make a lot of sense at 650-690 vs the 550 price of the R290.
However since release a lot has changed. We've seen 70% fan speed overclocks from the R290X, we've seen water results, we've seen user submitted overclocked results, and we've seen a large price cut from Nvidia. The only thing I've even argued with the 290x is that it is possible that the 780 has more MHz potentail and that the 1250 we're seeing from the R290 on water isn't enough to beat the top end 780s which are now less expensive than the stock reference R290 let alone factoring in the cost of water cooling vs the non reference 780s in the current state of the market. I don't care that AMD will have aftermarket coolers out a month from now because I'm not arguing about what happens next month I'm talking about the current state of the market. And only as it pertains to overclocking, there is no question and I've never argued that stock vs stock is anything other than what it is.
If you don't want to discuss overclocking as it has been presented thus far then why are you telling other people to stop arguing only to jump into the argument afterwards? Was it your natural desire to defend your beloved AMD at all costs, even when you know you're wrong?
Knock of the personal attacks between the two of you.
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