Watercooling Setup ...

[WoodButcher]

Originally posted by: IanY

Originally posted by: WoodButcher

Originally posted by: IanY
And therefore you deserve a Thermochill PA120.2 instead of a MCR220.

rofl! and this from a self-proclaimed swiftech fanboy, I hate to admit it but after having both in the triple version I'm not all that impressed with the TC for the price.

Would you like me to show you my three shoe boxes of Swiftech blocks alone

Who said anything about price? We want performance. Thermochill performs better. It costs three times more but that's all just figures and inconsequential lol

me too,,,,,
Sometimes I find it very hard not to buy when the newestlatestgreatest hits the market. Now the Feser:roll:

 

[Gillbot]

There is no whining from my 655-B and I don't mind the lower setting of "4" for the cost savings. I got mine for $45 shipped.

 

[Arc 0V]

AWESOME ... >.>, I order my Sanyo Denki fans and they show in stock and I get this ...
"The Sanyo Denki Fan is out of stock. However we have this fan that has a quieter motor and comparable performance. Let me know if we can credit you the different the panaflow is actually less money yet in my opinion a quieter smother operating fan... We will not be reordering Sanyo Denki... They are very loud and they do not like to be slowed down... when slowed down with a fan controller they get louder and make a growling type sound. I know there is some hype going on about these fans but I particularly do not like them."
mhmmm, so ummm ... when are you going to show them not in stock? :|

Now I have to look for them in another place or buy another fan. I'll check out the other fans you listed Ian if I can't find another San Ace.

 

[Arc 0V]

I can't figure out which Sanyo Denki fan this one is: http://www.etech4sale.com/Sany...artinfo-id-116995.html

 

[IanY]

Originally posted by: Arc 0V
I can't figure out which Sanyo Denki fan this one is: http://www.etech4sale.com/Sany...artinfo-id-116995.html

No... no no... that'sa mini San Ace. Its a 80 mm fan.

Here is the fan you need. H1011.

http://www.subzeropcs.com/sany...fan_109r1212h1011.html

 

[Arc 0V]

I ordered it from there, but they told me they were out of stock and that they wouldn't be restocking. That is where my post comes into play where I say I will try looking for them in another place.

 

[WoodButcher]

The model# says 120 x25 12v. The pic shows a mini, does this seller have a clue?



reference page.

 

[Arc 0V]

Well I sent an email to them asking to clarify, and they will most likely know nothing about the fan other than what is on the website. >.>

 

[aigomorla]

Sanya Denki Sanace 1011:

http://store.thermalfx.com/mer...1011&Category_Code=120

Its sold out there tho.


ahhhh bahh.. iany got it b4 i did.

 

[Arc 0V]

Ah at least a store that actually carries them, thanks Aigo! I can wait because at least they carry them and don't lie like subzeropcs.com.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: Arc 0V
I read up on fans for the radiator. At first I had in mind 2x 1900RPM Scythe SlipStreams but then I read that they lose a lot of airflow and make MUCH more noise behind a radiator (if I read right). I also read that Yate Loons are actually good and keep most airflow and don't make much more noise. What are some other high CFM fans are out there that I can use with a radiator (with characteristics like the Yate Loons)?

I want high CFM fans because they will be connected to a fan controller anyway and I can set the speeds to whatever I am doing.

Since you're going to fan control your fans consider using a 120x38mm. They'll supply a lot of static pressure in general and deliver better performance across the RPM spectrum. If I may ask, what's the construction of your rad? Thick or thin, high FPI or low?

 

[Arc 0V]

I don't know, but it's either going to be a Black Ice GTX 240 or a Thermochill PA102.2 with 2 120x38mm Sanyo Denki San Ace fans .

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Arc 0V
I don't know, but it's either going to be a Black Ice GTX 240 or a Thermochill PA102.2 with 2 120x38mm Sanyo Denki San Ace fans .

LOL those fans are overkill on the PA.

Thats like saying lets turbocharge my Prius hybrid.

 

[Arc 0V]

woohoo yes! i feel like a pro at watercooling, haha :laugh:

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Arc 0V
I don't know, but it's either going to be a Black Ice GTX 240 or a Thermochill PA102.2 with 2 120x38mm Sanyo Denki San Ace fans .

LOL those fans are overkill on the PA.

Thats like saying lets turbocharge my Prius hybrid.

Not really. PA performance scales up nicely wih more powerful fans.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Arc 0V
I don't know, but it's either going to be a Black Ice GTX 240 or a Thermochill PA102.2 with 2 120x38mm Sanyo Denki San Ace fans .

LOL those fans are overkill on the PA.

Thats like saying lets turbocharge my Prius hybrid.

Not really. PA performance scales up nicely wih more powerful fans.

yeah but it gets outpaced by the HWLabs GTX 240 with those fans.

The design of the PA is ment for silent operataion. It not the best, unless your looking for quiet with the best.

Also usually the fans used on the PA is something fairly quiet.

 

[Arc 0V]

Hmm, so what you're saying is that a GTX 240 would be better off than a PA120.2 with the San Aces?

 

[Arc 0V]

The only thing that can suck worse is this:

Hello Mario.

Thanks for your inquiry.

We are uncertain at this time when we will have them back in stock.

They come to us directly from Japan when we order them, and the typical lead time is 8 to 10 weeks.
However, we must also purchase a minimum order of 500 fans to get a reasonable and profitable price break, and we are not prepared to do that at the moment.

With the latest price increases and transport charges, they are becoming almost too expensive to stock anymore, especially when we have to tie up $9K in inventory on a few part numbers just to be able to have them.

We suggested using the Sanyo Denki 109R1212H101, as a replacement for the 109R1212H101, but we also ran out of those last week.

I'm sorry I don't have better news about the situation.

Thanks again,

Dan Buchanan

ThermalFX, Inc.
818-991-7569
Mon-Fri 9:00 AM-5:00 PM Pacific Time
Sales@thermalfx.com
WWW.THERMALFX.COM


... besides you knowing my name now , it sucks cause if they don't restock it's gonna suck even worse because I won't be able to get my Sanyo Denki fans! Unless I find another store that has them ...

 

[aigomorla]

relook at iany's post.

i believe he linked you to a site which had them in stock.


But yeah with san aces GTX > PA

 

[Arc 0V]

I tried ordering there first, but they told me they were loud and would not undervolt (liars) and that they would not re-order them. I can try orderin. .. ... . . . not, I called them and told me themselves they didn't have it.

 

[aigomorla]

get the UK's then as per in your PM.



Either way with the UK's the GTX is still a better radiator.

 

[Arc 0V]

Whoa, the static pressure chart shows that the UK3 needs to be running that high to have 80pa ... >.>

but on the other hand I really don't have an idea of what kind of pressure is needed for what ...

and here is the Panaflo U1Cs static pressure chart!

I just wish I could get those San Ace H1011s and get this over with ...

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Arc 0V
I don't know, but it's either going to be a Black Ice GTX 240 or a Thermochill PA102.2 with 2 120x38mm Sanyo Denki San Ace fans .

LOL those fans are overkill on the PA.

Thats like saying lets turbocharge my Prius hybrid.

Not really. PA performance scales up nicely wih more powerful fans.

yeah but it gets outpaced by the HWLabs GTX 240 with those fans.

The design of the PA is ment for silent operataion. It not the best, unless your looking for quiet with the best.

Also usually the fans used on the PA is something fairly quiet.

I'd have to see an official comparison to REALLY believe this, PA 120.2 v. GTX 240. Slightly higher FPI density for the 240 should give it an advantage with "screamer" fans, but the converse is just as likely. Also, IMO, "usually" doesn't equate to "must." If I was of a mind to mount, say, some Delta's, I'd go for a relatively low FPI rad. Mostly to avoid some unneeded noise and to present less restriction to my fans. Any performance hit I'd take for this I'd simply live with. It's a balancing act, as usual, right buddy?

Fan choices for rads has always been elastic, and with the expanding choices we have, with both rads AND fans, that ain't about to stop.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: IanY

Originally posted by: WoodButcher

Originally posted by: IanY
And therefore you deserve a Thermochill PA120.2 instead of a MCR220.

rofl! and this from a self-proclaimed swiftech fanboy, I hate to admit it but after having both in the triple version I'm not all that impressed with the TC for the price.

Would you like me to show you my three shoe boxes of Swiftech blocks alone

Who said anything about price? We want performance. Thermochill performs better. It costs three times more but that's all just figures and inconsequential lol

I like your attitude! :thumbsup:

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: IanY

Originally posted by: WoodButcher

Originally posted by: IanY
And therefore you deserve a Thermochill PA120.2 instead of a MCR220.

rofl! and this from a self-proclaimed swiftech fanboy, I hate to admit it but after having both in the triple version I'm not all that impressed with the TC for the price.

Would you like me to show you my three shoe boxes of Swiftech blocks alone

Who said anything about price? We want performance. Thermochill performs better. It costs three times more but that's all just figures and inconsequential lol

I like your attitude! :thumbsup:

HW let me introduce you to a really good friend of mine and his website.

The guy's name is martin, and he does a lot of custom stuff for me, as well as custom testing.

Infact he's soooo good, we expect him to be the next bill adams.

http://www.martinsliquidlab.com/

Check out the raditor test. You'll see a 360GTX outpace a PA with good fans. San Ace and UK's are considered excellent fans.

So we can scale the rads down one size and hold the ratio.