You don't understand basic water cooling principles. Read up on it before you continue bashing a superior solution.
As for the size of the cooler, it doesn't make sense for it to be a 1x120. The article guesses what it is from the picture. A 120mm rad is capable of dissipating what, 100W with a fan that won't be silent? Think about this for a second - CPUs with TDPs below 100W are using 2x120 radiators. What does that say for a GPU that will be in excess of 100W?
Why do fanboys look at leaks and then *scream* at the top of their lungs as if the leak is the gospel truth?
The 295x2 only pulled off it's solution with both a fan on the card itself, a heatsink plate covering the card on the front and then a loud fan on the rad as well. And even so, it didn't pull great temps.
just stay with nv? I don't understand you. you seem to hate water cooling and is 100% sure there will be no AIB air cooled versions for the 390x.The 295x2 only pulled off it's solution with both a fan on the card itself, a heatsink plate covering the card on the front and then a loud fan on the rad as well. And even so, it didn't pull great temps.
CLC really makes sense; but seeing how well some aftermarket coolers can dissapate heat really makes me wonder of how far air cooling has left to go.
They claim its 100% confirmed official blah blah. Its possible to cool the vrms and other hot components with water, the vents being for the rest. This design investment could account for the rumored $700.
If AMD is really going to charge $700 for this, it will have to beat the Titan X and win the performance crown outright. The rumored 20% over GTX 980 won't cut it.
That's only one rumor. It's not THE rumor like you say. Also, do you have an AMD source for the price since you are attributing that price to what AMD is going to charge?
Dude, the 295X2 also had x2 GPUs! This is x1.The 295x2 only pulled off it's solution with both a fan on the card itself, a heatsink plate covering the card on the front and then a loud fan on the rad as well. And even so, it didn't pull great temps.
You can't just say "It has to beat Titan X or its teh failz". It's going to come down to price, performance, acoustics, power draw, etc. Just like always.If AMD is really going to charge $700 for this, it will have to beat the Titan X and win the performance crown outright. The rumored 20% over GTX 980 won't cut it.
You can't just say "It has to beat Titan X or its teh failz". It's going to come down to price, performance, acoustics, power draw, etc. Just like always.
And we all know the X (250-300w, similar power envelope as Hawaii) is gimped by nV's blower, it has almost no headroom at all. It throttles like crazy at nV's preferred temperature and fan speed settings depending on the load. If you decide to shoot for stock 290x noise levels then it's a fine cooler for such a GPU... going forward they're gonna have to do something about it.
You can't just say "It has to beat Titan X or its teh failz". It's going to come down to price, performance, acoustics, power draw, etc. Just like always.
Considering Hawaii beat GK110 and it what, a 438mm2 vs a 551mm2 chip..
Now it should be a ~550mm2 Fiji XT vs ~600mm2 GM200 battle.
Fiji XT should beat Titan X given its close parity in die size and with a major memory advantage. If it can't, it's a failure.
Hawaii didnt beat GK110Considering Hawaii beat GK110 and it what, a 438mm2 vs a 551mm2 chip..
Now it should be a ~550mm2 Fiji XT vs ~600mm2 GM200 battle.
Fiji XT should beat Titan X given its close parity in die size and with a major memory advantage. If it can't, it's a failure.
Not necessarily true. Regardless of the 390X's performance you still need at least two for 4K. And Nvidia is on the ball usually with SLI profiles, game-day patches. Crossfire still doesn't have support in a lot of titles even a year+ after release. Anyone looking for 144Hz/1440P or 4K might have to consider that when factoring a dual card purchase.
I went ahead and looked at some of the featured mid tower cases on newegg. Most have a single 120 or 200mm fan rear mounted. Until you go full tower, you don't see 2x120 become common. Mid towers just won't have the space.
As for the size of the cooler, it doesn't make sense for it to be a 1x120. The article guesses what it is from the picture. A 120mm rad is capable of dissipating what, 100W with a fan that won't be silent? Think about this for a second - CPUs with TDPs below 100W are using 2x120 radiators. What does that say for a GPU that will be in excess of 100W?
Why do fanboys look at leaks and then *scream* at the top of their lungs as if the leak is the gospel truth?
The 295x2 only pulled off it's solution with both a fan on the card itself, a heatsink plate covering the card on the front and then a loud fan on the rad as well. And even so, it didn't pull great temps.
You can't just say "It has to beat Titan X or its teh failz". It's going to come down to price, performance, acoustics, power draw, etc. Just like always.
Well, I guess we'll have to wait and see. I haven't had any AMD single card driver issues in years, so I'm optimistic. I've never tried Crossfire, so I can't comment about multi-GPU.What about driver quality and release cadence? Don't forget multi GPU profile updates which AMD drags its feet on. They have to catch NVIDIA on all fronts, not just the hardware.
No, I don't. That's why I spoke in the conditional: if AMD is going to charge $700 for it (as Azix had apparently heard) then it's going to have to beat Titan X in order to sell well. Now, if it costs $499 (and to be clear, that figure is 100% speculative on my part), then it could beat GTX 980 by 20%, fall short of Titan X, and still sell well as long as power consumption wasn't totally crazy (i.e. <=250W TDP).