[WCCF] AMD Radeon R9 390X Pictured

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monstercameron

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Ok folks, prepare to lay your eyes on the first actual teaser image featuring a Fiji XT powered water-cooled graphics card by AMD. Now I’ve chosen those words very carefully. This is undoubtedly the Fiji powered flagship Radeon. The card that will likely be dubbed and sold as the R9 390X. However we can’t confirm that exact nomenclature at this present time but we’ll assume that’s what AMD will call it.

Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-fiji...mall-form-factor-water-cooling/#ixzz3ZOnDeje9...
 
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sandorski

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Definitely water cooled. I don't buy at that price range, but would love a water cooled card out of the box.
 

RampantAndroid

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Definitely water cooled. I don't buy at that price range, but would love a water cooled card out of the box.

I don't get this. It's a terrible option. If it's WC out of the box, I won't (can't) even think about it - it'll be 980/980 ti only for me. I don't have the room for a 2x120 rad, nor do I want water. I prefer the nice reliability of fans and heatsinks. A lot of people will be in the same boat as me. Many already have a CPU closed loop cooler...


Easy to take full displayport or HDMI to DVI.
 

sandorski

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I don't get this. It's a terrible option. If it's WC out of the box, I won't (can't) even think about it - it'll be 980/980 ti only for me. I don't have the room for a 2x120 rad, nor do I want water. I prefer the nice reliability of fans and heatsinks. A lot of people will be in the same boat as me. Many already have a CPU closed loop cooler...



Easy to take full displayport or HDMI to DVI.

Do you even Case bro?
 

Techhog

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I don't get this. It's a terrible option. If it's WC out of the box, I won't (can't) even think about it - it'll be 980/980 ti only for me. I don't have the room for a 2x120 rad, nor do I want water. I prefer the nice reliability of fans and heatsinks. A lot of people will be in the same boat as me. Many already have a CPU closed loop cooler...

There are two problems with this post:
1. It's a single rad (no idea why you think this needs more cooling than the 295X2 unless you're in the camp thinking this is a dual card, but even then...)
2. It assumes that this will be the only cooling option. Most rumors point to this being a premium/enthusiast option.
 

Azix

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Looks completely water cooled, not hybrid. I'd guess because air cooling can't manage the GPU and HBM being so close.

The design is nice though. Definitely better than the 290x red weirdness.

I can't wait to see the air cooled version. If the rumours are true not all 390x will be like this so theres still that.
 
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.vodka

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It looks quite short! Leaving out all those GDDR5 memory chips for HBM sure has reduced the size of the PCB. I like it.
 

destrekor

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Looks completely water cooled, not hybrid. I'd guess because air cooling can't manage the GPU and HBM being so close.

The design is nice though. Definitely better than the 290x red weirdness.

I can't wait to see the air cooled version. If the rumours are true not all 390x will be like this so theres still that.

I don't think it is a completely water cooled setup - there would be zero reason to have a full shroud and a rear vent. It's possible, but seems unlikely.

Ultimately, I think this is a fake tease - it seems too short, but I guess if a lot of the PCB space where memory resided is now used for the VRMs and other power circuitry, perhaps it is possibly that short.

It would have to be a very very specialized Asetek pump/cooler setup if it is cooling the entire card without a fan, because all of them are integrated CPU/GPU contact plate and pump, I've never seen an integrated setup that also had additional channels. It's possible, but that would be one heck of a custom order by AMD.

If it's real, and is supposed to be the look of a functioning card, I wonder if there is a fan pulling air through mesh toward the far end, which could be difficult to see in such a photo.

More than likely, it's simply a fake, or was an incomplete render meant to serve as a tease, and they didn't include all of the details for whatever reason.


There are two problems with this post:
1. It's a single rad (no idea why you think this needs more cooling than the 295X2 unless you're in the camp thinking this is a dual card, but even then...)
2. It assumes that this will be the only cooling option. Most rumors point to this being a premium/enthusiast option.

I don't get this. It's a terrible option. If it's WC out of the box, I won't (can't) even think about it - it'll be 980/980 ti only for me. I don't have the room for a 2x120 rad, nor do I want water. I prefer the nice reliability of fans and heatsinks. A lot of people will be in the same boat as me. Many already have a CPU closed loop cooler...


Do remember, that it seems leaked slides so indeed indicate that there is a 390X WCE, and a standard air-cooled 390X. Whether the WCE brings any other changes to the card, save for the quieter cooling, remains to be seen.
 

Azix

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They claim its 100% confirmed official blah blah. Its possible to cool the vrms and other hot components with water, the vents being for the rest. This design investment could account for the rumored $700. It would be hard to fit a fan in the setup or at least the VRMs might not be adequately cooled with a fan in that setup.
 

DiogoDX

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I don't get this. It's a terrible option. If it's WC out of the box, I won't (can't) even think about it - it'll be 980/980 ti only for me. I don't have the room for a 2x120 rad, nor do I want water. I prefer the nice reliability of fans and heatsinks. A lot of people will be in the same boat as me. Many already have a CPU closed loop cooler...



Easy to take full displayport or HDMI to DVI.
Probably reference water and custom with air.

If is true I'll only want the reference AIO.:wub:
 
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So short for a flagship.. HBM saves PCB space too. heh

Would be excellent of the AIO is custom so that its a plate covering the GPU & VRM, it would ensure everything runs cool & quiet.

That would be all the benefits of a full loop that normal hybrids don't get (lack of VRM cooling limits OC potential).
 

RampantAndroid

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I believe that most will feel the same as you. A cool quiet reference design sounds terrific.

I don't agree at all with the first part; the second part does not require an AIO solution. If the first part was true, wouldn't we be seeing a predominant number of cards from Asus, Gigabyte and the likes with AIO already? It's something that isn't very common right now. Most cases cannot accomodate 2x120 internally, and you can't remove the hoses to mount it externally (you need to cut the case.)
 

xthetenth

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I don't agree at all with the first part; the second part does not require an AIO solution. If the first part was true, wouldn't we be seeing a predominant number of cards from Asus, Gigabyte and the likes with AIO already? It's something that isn't very common right now. Most cases cannot accomodate 2x120 internally, and you can't remove the hoses to mount it externally (you need to cut the case.)

2x120? Where's the second 120?
 
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I don't agree at all with the first part; the second part does not require an AIO solution. If the first part was true, wouldn't we be seeing a predominant number of cards from Asus, Gigabyte and the likes with AIO already? It's something that isn't very common right now. Most cases cannot accomodate 2x120 internally, and you can't remove the hoses to mount it externally (you need to cut the case.)

If you recall from the slides, there's a WCE (enthusiast option) edition as well as normal aircooled variants.

I think its great that the reference design will have a water cool & air cool option. More choices are good.

In particular if the VRMs are water cooled as well, would make it the best reference card, ever.
 

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I don't agree at all with the first part; the second part does not require an AIO solution. If the first part was true, wouldn't we be seeing a predominant number of cards from Asus, Gigabyte and the likes with AIO already? It's something that isn't very common right now. Most cases cannot accomodate 2x120 internally, and you can't remove the hoses to mount it externally (you need to cut the case.)

I can't believe that you made the same mistake twice. It is a single 120mm rad! Do you not know those exist or something? I really want to know what you think the 295X2 has...

Also, needing to mod most cases for a 240 rad? What? Stop with this silliness.
 

n0x1ous

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looks kinda wimpy being so short after being used to foot long cards from AMD! Im pretty excited about this though - I am pro AIO reference and will be all over this if the performance is where it needs to be
 

RampantAndroid

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I can't believe that you made the same mistake twice. It is a single 120mm rad! Do you not know those exist or something? I really want to know what you think the 295X2 has...

Also, needing to mod most cases for a 240 rad? What? Stop with this silliness.

I went ahead and looked at some of the featured mid tower cases on newegg. Most have a single 120 or 200mm fan rear mounted. Until you go full tower, you don't see 2x120 become common. Mid towers just won't have the space.

As for the size of the cooler, it doesn't make sense for it to be a 1x120. The article guesses what it is from the picture. A 120mm rad is capable of dissipating what, 100W with a fan that won't be silent? Think about this for a second - CPUs with TDPs below 100W are using 2x120 radiators. What does that say for a GPU that will be in excess of 100W?

Why do fanboys look at leaks and then *scream* at the top of their lungs as if the leak is the gospel truth?
 

Wreckem

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My planned build involves a node 304, unlocked skylake, and a 395x2 all on water.

All I am waiting for is the unlocked skylake and 395x2.
 

alcoholbob

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I don't get this. It's a terrible option. If it's WC out of the box, I won't (can't) even think about it - it'll be 980/980 ti only for me. I don't have the room for a 2x120 rad, nor do I want water. I prefer the nice reliability of fans and heatsinks. A lot of people will be in the same boat as me. Many already have a CPU closed loop cooler...



Easy to take full displayport or HDMI to DVI.

Plus noise. I tend to build pretty quiet PCs and every CLC pump I've heard including the EVGA 980 AIO and the 295X2 AIO were well audible above the ambient sound level of the PC. If the 390X is much better than the Titan X then I'll wait for a air-cooled edition.
 

Azix

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I went ahead and looked at some of the featured mid tower cases on newegg. Most have a single 120 or 200mm fan rear mounted. Until you go full tower, you don't see 2x120 become common. Mid towers just won't have the space.

As for the size of the cooler, it doesn't make sense for it to be a 1x120. The article guesses what it is from the picture. A 120mm rad is capable of dissipating what, 100W with a fan that won't be silent? Think about this for a second - CPUs with TDPs below 100W are using 2x120 radiators. What does that say for a GPU that will be in excess of 100W?

Why do fanboys look at leaks and then *scream* at the top of their lungs as if the leak is the gospel truth?

in the pic you can see where the tubes start. Its a single 120 or 140 if the leak is valid. Its definitely not a thin rad and its not the only version. A small case would not fair well with an air cooled version of this anyway.
 

RampantAndroid

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Plus noise. I tend to build pretty quiet PCs and every CLC pump I've heard including the EVGA 980 AIO and the 295X2 AIO were well audible above the ambient sound level of the PC. If the 390X is much better than the Titan X then I'll wait for a air-cooled edition.

The 295x2 only pulled off it's solution with both a fan on the card itself, a heatsink plate covering the card on the front and then a loud fan on the rad as well. And even so, it didn't pull great temps.
 
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