[WCCF/Videocardz] Nvidia is prepping a new GK110 GPU - GTX Titan Ultra coming soon

[BrightCandle]

Will it actually perform much better? 7% extra cores and similar power consumption is not going to massively change anything, its a pretty small change. Its interesting to see both companies are now getting better yields as 28nm matures, its certainly bringing us faster cards but the this is just the refreshes and the real change (50%+) performance I am still expecting next year with the new process which I hope is still viable considering the demands on TSMC wafer starts with mobile phone chips.

Depressingly a pair of more moderate cards will easily outperform it for about 2/3rds the price so not a whole lot of point getting any of the new cards despite the fact they are clearly better and less limited.

 

[Pandamonia]

As soon as 20nm drops it will look like a gameboy in comparison to the mid range of 20nm

 

[Cloudfire777]

According to this slide, it says that the new ATLAS will have
"Larger datasets"
"Faster acceleration"

What does that mean?

 

[boxleitnerb]

According to this slide, it says that the new ATLAS will have
"Larger datasets"
"Faster acceleration"

What does that mean?

More memory and more GFLOPs (higher clocks, more cores). Nothing groundbreaking, really

 

[skipsneeky2]

Another wonderful NVidia rimjob for only $1,000 I bet, would not be shocked if this one sells for $1,200+ at this point with actual buyers.

Brb, i'll go grab the lube for you guys thinking about buying this.

Warning issued for inappropriate language.
-- stahlhart

 

[imaheadcase]

Another wonderful NVidia rimjob for only $1,000 I bet, would not be shocked if this one sells for $1,200+ at this point with actual buyers.

Brb, i'll go grab the lube for you guys thinking about buying this.

I can't hear you with all this money up to my ears.

 

[skipsneeky2]

I can't hear you with all this money up to my ears.

Hell don't let me talk you out of buying one, just general observation of how the 780 made the Titan look like such a bad value, I mean heck I know a couple forum members ditched their Titans and went for 780s and got near Titan performance and even a nice wad of cash on top of it from the sell of the Titans.:awe:

 

[Subyman]

So after almost 2 years we finally get the "true" successor to the 580. In six months will we be getting the "true true" successor? Nvidia's trickling out of this gen's tech has been shameless.

 

[Ibra]

Another wonderful NVidia rimjob for only $1,000 I bet, would not be shocked if this one sells for $1,200+ at this point with actual buyers.

Brb, i'll go grab the lube for you guys thinking about buying this.

Why don't you try to issuade R9 290X buyers? Everyone expected $400 but it's $700.

Infraction issued for thread crapping.
-- stahlhart

 

[skipsneeky2]

Why don't you try to issuade R9 290X buyers? Everyone expected $400 but it's $700.

Cause there is a good chance its gonna crap on the Titan, crap on the 780 and that price is most likely the early adopter tax and including a awesome game at best is kinda meh but not quite rape.

Look what happened when the 780 came out, Titan ultra would have to be hell of a lot better then the 290x or perform about the same and be priced as such but nvidias recent track record makes even a NVidia guy like me have my doubts.

Also Possible or better then Titan performance @$400 with a killer game is dreamland, I personally wouldn't expect performance any cheaper then $500.

 

[BrightCandle]

I remember when the advice was not to go SLI/Xfire unless you were already buying the top single card. An SLI rig with 780's is already mighty expensive as is and while that might be justified there aren't many people willing to drop down the money for 2 titans.

This generation has been really weird. We had the GK104 which everyone claimed was NVidia's mid range card (turned out to be true in the end) competing with AMDs top 7970 card and a bit of back and forth there but by and large ending up very similar performance. Then NVidia finally stops selling Gk110 only to super computers and we get the 700 series and Titan refresh about 1 year after the initial 680 release. But at the beginning of the year the AMD roadmap showed 8000 series cards being relabels for OEMs only and no new cards until 2014 Q1. Now we have a 290/290X coming, a raft of random features with it (sound chip!) and prices have just gone insane.

I don't understand what happened this generation, I preferred it when they released the top end cards one year and spent the rest of the year filling out to the middle and bottom of the range and then they refreshed it a year later with slightly better cards. What happened to turn it into this messy confusing roadmap of super expensive Uber crazy cards exactly?!

 

[PPB]

So how you expect this will affect NV's current pricing lineup?

- Will it suffle "tiers" and move current Titan down a tier, placing it at 800-650 to make room for this new SKU at 1.000 bucks? (780 like wise might get a price drop to 500, for example).
- Will it all stay the same and will it ship at 1200 or any other price above current Titan's pricing?
- Will it replace Titan altogether as the only premium (as in, it doesnt follow NVs traditional naming scheme) SKU at 1000 bucks?

 

[toyota]

As soon as 20nm drops it will look like a gameboy in comparison to the mid range of 20nm

yeah sure just like when mid range 28 nm launched it beat the crap out of high end 40 nm. oh wait the gtx660 was slower than the $500 gtx580. but in your head you think a next gen mid range card is going to decimate a current gen $1000 boutique halo card?

 

[tviceman]

Well, it does say something when you see Titans on sale for $650 used. They may have paid 1g for them but they aren't really worth that I guess. The Titan should be a $650 card and the 780 should be a $500-$550. That would really attract a lot more buyers. I would prefer more profit through volume rather than the stuff sitting on the shelves IMO. Don't you agree?

Entirely. I just don't see how selling so few of these cards can bring in more profit in the end. Percentages are nice, but if I was running the company or setting the prices, I'd rather have more profit dollars in my company's pocket than an uber-high margin but with less total profit.

 

[toyota]

Entirely. I just don't see how selling so few of these cards can bring in more profit in the end. Percentages are nice, but I'd rather have more profit dollars in my company's pocket than an uber-high margin but with less total profit.

so you know more than Nvidia? I am sure they have people that might do a little research you know.

not to mention that people will buy anything nvidia makes. idiots buying the $1000 Titan and the laughably loud, power hungry and hot 480 and 470 on launch are proof of that. if AMD would have released a $500 gpu like the gtx480 they would have been ridiculed.

 

[Cloudfire777]

So how you expect this will affect NV's current pricing lineup?

- Will it suffle "tiers" and move current Titan down a tier, placing it at 800-650 to make room for this new SKU at 1.000 bucks? (780 like wise might get a price drop to 500, for example).
- Will it all stay the same and will it ship at 1200 or any other price above current Titan's pricing?
- Will it replace Titan altogether as the only premium (as in, it doesnt follow NVs traditional naming scheme) SKU at 1000 bucks?

I think all geforce cards will get a lower price, especially considering the latest buzz that it will happen across the entire Kepler range. GTX 780 as $500-$599, GTX Titan as $700-$799 and GTX Titan Ultra as $999.

Like always, it is better performance wise to go for SLI with 780 than Titan Ultra, but having a single GPU have its pros which will be enough to get people to buy the best single card on the market.

Should be an effective strategy against any attempts from AMD to steal market share.

 

[krumme]

The 770 is the ace because it delivers perf per mm2 in spades. And that is needed for marketshare. All the titan huge halo is worth far far less. Nv will do fine because of that.

 

[skipsneeky2]

The 770 is the ace because it delivers perf per mm2 in spades. And that is needed for marketshare. All the titan huge halo is worth far far less. Nv will do fine because of that.

Love my 770 but honestly i should have went with the 7970Ghz, a guy like me who usually prefers NVidia cards having buyers remorse?Think it was the few reviews giving the nod to the 770 over 7970Ghz in BF3 at stock clock settings that made my purchasing decision.:awe:

To the moderator and the forum, i do apologize for my colorful imagination in my earlier post but personally the milking NVidia has done this generation sickens me to no end.

 

[PPB]

The 770 is the ace because it delivers perf per mm2 in spades. And that is needed for marketshare. All the titan huge halo is worth far far less. Nv will do fine because of that.

The problem with perf per mm2 is when it doesnt correlate at all to a better perf per dollar. 770 is a prime example of that.

 

[AdamK47]

I'd buy it... multiple times.

 

[el etro]

Do a GK180 is a awesome move by Nvidia. Will be cool to see a new Geforce series based on GK18x landing next year beginning to counter AMDs VIs. And then leave the battle Maxwell vs. Pirate Islands for the 20nm(to we see Maxwell doubling the enrgy efficiency of Kelper).

 

[blackened23]

Yeah, I can't wait for the 1200$ GK180 to compete with a 600$ (I hope) VI. Pretty sure nobody will care just like nobody cares about the Titan after the 780 was released.

Meanwhile, back on planet earth, most consumers would be more interested in a GTX 780 pricecut if that happens - rather than a Titan Ultra priced in the stratosphere. I'm not entirely convinced that they will make a consumer version of this, because the GTX 780 already made the Titan irrelevant - the 780 OC'ed matches the Titan anyway unless you're doing 4k * 3 surround and need the VRAM on the Titan.

 

[isawthedevil]

Too optimistic.

 

[tigersty1e]

so many gullible people on this board.

no new card is launching on oct 16/17.

think about it. why would nvidia stay quiet for so long with all the buzz for amd, and then quietly drop this "new card."

more importantly, a card this close to a launch date would have many other 3rd parties involved that would've leaked the news weeks ago.

 

[3DVagabond]

Nvidia will be launching Nvidia ATLAS on October 16/17th. It is GK180. It features 2880 cores instead of K20X with 2688 cores (GTX Titan), but will use the same power.

This could be our next GTX Titan Ultra ()

Looks like Nvidia have improved Kepler.

http://videocardz.com/46388/nvidia-launch-tesla-k40-atlas-gk180-gpu

I would be very shocked if nVidia didn't have a response to the R9 290X (in Dx11). This only shows a K40 Tesla card though. No Geforce card is shown. Strange they would rebrand the GK110 too.