[WCCFTech]Nvidia Geforce 11 Series Launching Around July

Samwell

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Forget it, it's wtftech. Everything at the moment tends to Release in late Q3, early Q4.
 

RichUK

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Yeah the data there has been available for some time - I'm hoping TFTCentral get their hands on one or another reputable in-depth review site does. I'm not willing to play panel lottery.

Totally agree, it's an expensive lottery!
 

ultimatebob

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Nvidia is in no hurry to release the next gen cards. They already have AMD's latest cards beaten with their current generation parts, with the exception of a few oddball game benchmarks and crypto mining.
 

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Guys, for rumor threads with articles, please include article source in thread title. FTFY, thanks.
 

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This will be the first time when the mainstream chip (Gx106) may have more bandwidth than the previous gen Gx08 chip, so long as Nvidia stays with the 192-bit bus. However, I see the Gx06 chip going with a 256-bit bus this time, equating to 256 gb/s with 16 gbps GDDR6 vram - equal to a GTX1070. I'd imagine it will end up about almost as fast as the GTX 1070 TI, so a 192-bit bus and 384gb/s bandwidth would probably be overkill anyways.
 

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However, I see the Gx06 chip going with a 256-bit bus this time, equating to 256 gb/s with 16 gbps GDDR6 vram - equal to a GTX1070. I'd imagine it will end up about almost as fast as the GTX 1070 TI, so a 192-bit bus and 384gb/s bandwidth would probably be overkill anyways.
But... how will be priced, relative to the GTX 1070 ti, both original MSRP, and current street prices? Will the mining craze's effects be felt in new, higher, MSRPs, or will the craze have died down substantially such that it would be fatal to a GPU companies profits, if they released new cards with "gouged" MSRPs?

As such, my estimation is by the beginning of April 2018, mining revenue using NiceHash is down around 6x, as compared to Jan 2018. (Was making $20-22/day, now making $21 every SIX days.)

Edit: I've been toying with selling my GTX 1070 ti, for what could possibly be a slightly-inflated price right now, but then... I'm wondering if NVidia is going to do something to the mining abilities of their newer cards (neuter their mining ability, unless one pays extra for "mining edition" cards), and if these older, un-restricted cards, might actually appreciate in value relative to their newer equivalent (and probably cheaper?) replacements?
 

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But... how will be priced, relative to the GTX 1070 ti, both original MSRP, and current street prices? Will the mining craze's effects be felt in new, higher, MSRPs, or will the craze have died down substantially such that it would be fatal to a GPU companies profits, if they released new cards with "gouged" MSRPs?

As such, my estimation is by the beginning of April 2018, mining revenue using NiceHash is down around 6x, as compared to Jan 2018. (Was making $20-22/day, now making $21 every SIX days.)

Edit: I've been toying with selling my GTX 1070 ti, for what could possibly be a slightly-inflated price right now, but then... I'm wondering if NVidia is going to do something to the mining abilities of their newer cards (neuter their mining ability, unless one pays extra for "mining edition" cards), and if these older, un-restricted cards, might actually appreciate in value relative to their newer equivalent (and probably cheaper?) replacements?

I have no idea what will happen with prices. There is no rumors out of the AMD camp, AT ALL, so I'm sure Nvidia is going to ride some pretty high prices because they will be utterly unchallenged in every single market segment. If the typical gains of 40-50% are present, the GTX 2070 (or 1070, whatever it's called) will be 1080 TI speeds, or 30% faster than Vega RX. The GTX 2060, normally a $249-299 card with a ~200-225mm2 die will be the same speed as Vega 56.

I'm guessing Nvidia comes out with explicit verbiage saying "introductory prices" of $749 for the GTX 2080 and $549 for the GTX 1070, and $399 for the GTX 2060. If mining hadn't inflated the prices so much, we'd probably see $699, $499, and $349 prices. I just can't see Nvidia moving units at prices any higher than that. I don't think there is a hard limit on how many skus the market can bare at $500 and up.
 

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The GTX 1160 or 2060 if you prefer better be freakin awesome at $399 or even $349. That or easily available for purchase. NE has a 1060 down to $299 this weekend. Mini versions down to $270-80.
 

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The GTX 1160 or 2060 if you prefer better be freakin awesome at $399 or even $349. That or easily available for purchase. NE has a 1060 down to $299 this weekend. Mini versions down to $270-80.

I'm completely speculating, but I think it will at least be $299, but $349 is very plausible. It *should* be nearly 1070 Ti in performance. There might be a $279 4gb version and a $349 8gb version if it's on a 128-bit bus. The performance / $ needle is not going to move very much until mining is out of the picture.
 

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I'm completely speculating, but I think it will at least be $299, but $349 is very plausible. It *should* be nearly 1070 Ti in performance. There might be a $279 4gb version and a $349 8gb version if it's on a 128-bit bus. The performance / $ needle is not going to move very much until mining is out of the picture.

Well the performance /rrp will move lots - it has with every release from NV - but actual retail pricing? Could be another matter.
 

tviceman

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Well the performance /rrp will move lots - it has with every release from NV - but actual retail pricing? Could be another matter.

Generally this is true, but this time around the situation is different with mining in play. I think, instead of "founders edition pricing," Nvidia is going to come out with "introductory" inflated MSRP prices across the board to keep retailers from profit gouging and cutting out much of the profits that would go to Nvidia and it's AIBs partners. So your typical $599 card that gets a $50-100 price bump from Newegg is already going to have that price bump built in by Nvidia and it's AIB partners until demand subsides.
 

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Edit: I've been toying with selling my GTX 1070 ti, for what could possibly be a slightly-inflated price right now, but then... I'm wondering if NVidia is going to do something to the mining abilities of their newer cards (neuter their mining ability, unless one pays extra for "mining edition" cards), and if these older, un-restricted cards, might actually appreciate in value relative to their newer equivalent (and probably cheaper?) replacements?
How are they going to know whether it's mining, folding@home, or some other compute oriented application? Physically changing the cards - like removing display output is going to make it harder to sell once it's no longer profitable for mining. If AMD doesn't do the same thing, they put themselves at a disadvantage.
 
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