Discussion [WCCFTech] What’s Up With The Missing NVIDIA DLSS Support In AMD Sponsored FSR Titles?

[Thunder 57]

It's not like if the game is dropping below 30 fps, a hint will come up on screen, telling clueless gamers to use FSR or DLSS. I suspect that's also why a lot of non-techie gamers go for the most expensive card, coz then they don't have to fiddle with any settings. It just runs.

Gotta say, and it probably is a pet peeve, is you using the nonword coz instead of cause. It's up there with so many people saying "loosing" or "looses". Maybye it;s just me. I see "loosing" all the time on this forum.

 

[VirtualLarry]

maybe he married his cozin.

 

[Saylick]

maybe he married his cozin.

Cozin' up wid hiz cozin'?

Now that's a paddlin'.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Cozin' up wid hiz cozin'?

Have a single female maternal cousin. Never ran into her after she came of age and from what I hear, she's arrogant and trouble.

Don't care about paternal cousins. That side of my family is closer to apes

 

[sandorski]

Have a single female maternal cousin. Never ran into her after she came of age and from what I hear, she's arrogant and trouble.

Don't care about paternal cousins. That side of my family is closer to apes

We are Apes.

 

[maddie]

I understand the humor, ...........but.

How do we fix genes? As someone who uses basic genetic rules as a business tool I would suggest looking at techniques in enhancing mutations (not all are negative). Finally, how did variations in peoples worldwide become fixed regional visual characteristics? Hint, Few traveled beyond their immediate villages.

We are all descended from cousin mates.

 

[igor_kavinski]

We are Apes.

True but my paternal cousins exhibit more ape like behavior. I would even classify them as Klingons. I have heard rumors from my family members (other than my dad) that they partake in incest.

 

[DrMrLordX]

True but my paternal cousins exhibit more ape like behavior. I would even classify them as Klingons. I have heard rumors from my family members (other than my dad) that they partake in incest.

I would complain about this going terribly off-topic if the main topic weren't also so unsavory.

 

[VirtualLarry]

True but my paternal cousins exhibit more ape like behavior. I would even classify them as Klingons. I have heard rumors from my family members (other than my dad) that they partake in incest.

It could be worse, they could be AMD customers.

 

[DooKey]

It could be worse, they could be AMD customers.

The odds of that happening are pretty low. Not many gamers are AMD GPU customers.

 

[VirtualLarry]

The odds of that happening are pretty low. Not many gamers are AMD GPU customers

Good point.

 

[aigomorla]

Nvidia's answer... YOU NEED A 4090ti...
then who cares about DLSS when you can just sledge hammer though the FPS wall... :X

The odds of that happening are pretty low. Not many gamers are AMD GPU customers.

ERRRR...

Someone needs to hide the fact most consoles are AMD based from him and the fact consoles probably outnumber both Radeon + RTX's combined.

Xbox S = Scarlett AMD
PS5 = Oberon AMD.

You guys smoking something really good if you think AMD has no market share on the gaming world.
This is probably why they realize its better to be FSR and AMD arch optimized more then Nvidia.


What worries me is that it sounds like starfield will be a console port, and not a PC port to consoles.
Which means it will be a buggy unplayable mess for at least 6 months especially since its Bethesda regardless of WHAT gpu you are running.

 

[coercitiv]

Nvidia's answer... YOU NEED A 4090ti...
then who cares about DLSS when you can just sledge hammer though the FPS wall... :X

DLSS3 automatically enables when the 4090Ti power connector reaches critical temperature. This is the first documented case of a Neural Network used in fire prevention. /s

 

[DrMrLordX]

You guys smoking something really good if you think AMD has no market share on the gaming world.

Console buyers are not "GPU customers".

 

[coercitiv]

Hardware Unboxed has joined the chat:

Apparently AMD is unable to speak anymore.

 

[Heartbreaker]

Hardware Unboxed has joined the chat:

Ouch, Burn.

They were the only outlet I saw giving AMD the benefit of the doubt a few days ago.

 

[DooKey]

Nvidia's answer... YOU NEED A 4090ti...
then who cares about DLSS when you can just sledge hammer though the FPS wall... :X



ERRRR...

Someone needs to hide the fact most consoles are AMD based from him and the fact consoles probably outnumber both Radeon + RTX's combined.

Xbox S = Scarlett AMD
PS5 = Oberon AMD.

You guys smoking something really good if you think AMD has no market share on the gaming world.
This is probably why they realize its better to be FSR and AMD arch optimized more then Nvidia.


What worries me is that it sounds like starfield will be a console port, and not a PC port to consoles.
Which means it will be a buggy unplayable mess for at least 6 months especially since its Bethesda regardless of WHAT gpu you are running.

I said GPUs as in dGPU. Not too many gamers are using those from AMD. I'm very well aware of the AMD tech in the consoles.

 

[GaiaHunter]

It could be worse.

They could allow the developers to add DLSS and then had DLSS render a sea underneath the world to cripple performance...

 

[PJVol]

Apparently AMD is unable to speak anymore.

omg, what epithets! "Anticonsumer", "pathetic behavior" ...
If I were amd, I'd tell them to get the **** off with such questions.

 

[Ranulf]

Hardware Unboxed has joined the chat:

Apparently AMD is unable to speak anymore.

This is still circumstantial evidence, I'm not seeing anything more than opinion that this upscaling fsr exclusivity is part of a contract. This could be what Tim/HUB/etc allege, it could just be CYA from AMD marketing to avoid losing their jobs if they say no, yes, maybe and turn out to be wrong.

The most interesting part to me is the idea that it is easy to implement other upscalers once they have done the work for one. Is this true? Does it depend on the engine? Does it depend on the version of engine being used in a game? Does it just depend on a game developer having the time, money, or expertise to implement it properly?

We have some people in the game developer world claiming it is easy, especially for AAA studios, others saying it is just budget/time or not so easy to do. The wccftech (who started this whole debate) article I posted a few days ago with the Riftbreaker devs from two years ago said it was easier to do FSR and it would benefit most of their customers so they went with that. They just recently added xess too.

Bah, why waste time with this at this point. I guess it is the only thing gpu wise to talk about since the 4060 is just another clown show. Like the whole GPU market these days.

 

[AdamK47]

I use a rendering technique called "Native 4K". Some of you may have heard of it. It works in both AMD and Nvidia sponsored titles.

 

[Ranulf]

I use a rendering technique called "Native 4K". Some of you may have heard of it. It works in both AMD and Nvidia sponsored titles.

Oh you're one of THEM. Real-framers. You want the real deal, dgpu experience! The true FPS experience. No fake frames here! No upscalers allowed. The true native resolution must be shown! 720p upscaled to 1080!? 1080 to 4k!? Not in this lifetime, sunshine!

I can dig it.

 

[Heartbreaker]

This is still circumstantial evidence...

 

[aigomorla]

I use a rendering technique called "Native 4K". Some of you may have heard of it. It works in both AMD and Nvidia sponsored titles.

Yeah i use that feature as well.
Its expensive as hell, and makes no financial sense, but hey, when you have all that glorious 4k being displayed... oh wait im on a ultra wide, so i guess its 2.75k for me, it leaves people speechless.

Console buyers are not "GPU customers".

But the games are still written for the AMD engine and most PC games these days are console ports.
So Technically AMD has a greater market share when it comes to Games in general.
If im not mistaken Xbox S uses FSR1 while PS5 uses FSR 2.1 on top.

If this is how industry is going, my next card maybe a 7950XTX and not a 4090ti.

Oh you're one of THEM. Real-framers. You want the real deal, dgpu experience! The true FPS experience. No fake frames here! No upscalers allowed. The true native resolution must be shown! 720p upscaled to 1080!? 1080 to 4k!? Not in this lifetime, sunshine!

I can dig it.

AdamK isn't like the Genie from Aladdin
Fantastic Cosmic power.... Idibidy display space. LOL...

 

[igor_kavinski]

I love you for the comic value you provide in this thread