WD Red 2TB WD20EFRX $99 at newegg

[thestrangebrew1]

With promo code EMCYTZT2830. 24 hrs only.

Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...m-_-22-236-343

 

[lifestorie11]

Have been waiting for a good price on these. I want to buy 3 for a raid 5 config on Ubuntu server. Just nervous as I have read a lot of people claiming DOA on at least 1 out of the 3 they receive. Anyone running raid with these WD reds?

 

[mshan]

I was also about to buy one for my WHS box, but I am hesitating because of all of the reviews of failing drives.

 

[philipma1957]

Have been waiting for a good price on these. I want to buy 3 for a raid 5 config on Ubuntu server. Just nervous as I have read a lot of people claiming DOA on at least 1 out of the 3 they receive. Anyone running raid with these WD reds?

I grabbed 3x 3tb ones from amazon last week I have the 3 of them in a raid0 works fine.

 

[lifestorie11]

I grabbed 3x 3tb ones from amazon last week I have the 3 of them in a raid0 works fine.

I am still on the fence with these drives. Don't get me wrong I have more faith in them then the Seagate Barracuda drives. I have just had bad luck lately with drives 2TB and larger. I have had multiple 2TB WD Blacks go out on me. WD has always replaced them, but the downtime has been a true headache. Also don't enjoy recopying from usb backup

 

[thestrangebrew1]

I am still on the fence with these drives. Don't get me wrong I have more faith in them then the Seagate Barracuda drives. I have just had bad luck lately with drives 2TB and larger. I have had multiple 2TB WD Blacks go out on me. WD has always replaced them, but the downtime has been a true headache. Also don't enjoy recopying from usb backup

This is what's keeping me from pulling the trigger on anything larger than 1tb for my server. As it is, I've got 1 2tb seagate drive that seems to be going strong, but I've only had it for about 5 mos. The rest of my drives are 1tb only and they are going strong on about 2 years of ownership. 3tbs would be ideal on my server, but I'm scared to buy them right now.

 

[mshan]

Looks like Amazon has price-matched Newegg: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Are these 1 TB platters cutting edge manufacturing, thus explaining the high rate of failure?

Are these Reds built in a new Western Digital factory with growing pains?

Just a bad batch?

Other?

 

[Zxian]

Newegg's shipping and handling of hard drives is usually what causes so many DOA drives. I've seen more than a handful of drives shipped with no protective packaging. Bump these things around enough on the truck and it's no surprise that they end up dead.

 

[thestrangebrew1]

I've always had excellant packaging from NE. They usually ship with the plastic braces and air bubbles in between.

 

[lifestorie11]

Newegg's shipping and handling of hard drives is usually what causes so many DOA drives. I've seen more than a handful of drives shipped with no protective packaging. Bump these things around enough on the truck and it's no surprise that they end up dead.

I have bought many hard drives from Newegg and had no problems. I am thinking Newegg is not to blame as the reviews are mixed all around the different retailers.

 

[DominionSeraph]

Just note that these are 5400RPM drives.

 

[lifestorie11]

Well I ended up getting in for 3 of them. Wish me luck. Crossing fingers for no DOA drives. Bought at Amazon. Could not pass up with Prime.

 

[Blueychan]

Just note that these are 5400RPM drives.

Using IntelliPower Technology ... so somewhere between 5400RPM and 7200RPM. Again this is a Red Drive, intended for NAS usage (reliable and low power consumption).

 

[hansmuff]

In for one, thanks OP.

People's reviews on HDDs are generally complete crap. These are very sensitive mechanical units, failures are to be expected. With the rare exception of the Deskstar 75GXP many years ago, I have found all the complaints against one particular line to be baseless.

Hitachi drives, WD Green, Seagate 7200.11, I've used them all with good success.

This looks like a good drive at a good price.

 

[mikeford]

I am done with RAID, ran a system for 3 years using AMD onboard raid1 (mirror) and Seagate 2TB drives. Worked fine until it didn't, then you better have your data fully backed up.

OTOH I picked up two of the WD Reds from MicroCenter last week to recover to from the Seagate's which are going to be used only as offline back ups.

I think the main issue with the cheaper drives isn't shipping, its heat and time, poorly ventilated cases running 24x7 rack up a huge amount of hot hours run time and wear out the cheap drives.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I am done with RAID, ran a system for 3 years using AMD onboard raid1 (mirror) and Seagate 2TB drives. Worked fine until it didn't, then you better have your data fully backed up.

RAID isn't a form of backup. That's not AMD's fault.

 

[Zxian]

Using IntelliPower Technology ... so somewhere between 5400RPM and 7200RPM. Again this is a Red Drive, intended for NAS usage (reliable and low power consumption).

No. They are 5400 RPM drives. Intellipower is a marketing term, nothing more.

See this.

 

[Tsavo]

No. They are 5400 RPM drives. Intellipower is a marketing term, nothing more.

See this.

^ That.

I have a few, and they are nice drives, excellent throughput, but one cannot hide the long seeks of a 5400 RPM unit.

 

[mikeford]

RAID isn't a form of backup. That's not AMD's fault.

Issue is entirely AMD's fault, their RAID controller and drivers combined with Win7 64 equaled total data loss on the 2TB volume. Thats really an unacceptable failure point on mature technology. Drive failure is to be expected, controller or driver problems are not.

 

[rbk123]

All failures need to be planned for. That's why you have disk fault tolerance (RAID) + backups. RAID won't save you if it's working but something corrupts your data. You better have a backup in that case.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Issue is entirely AMD's fault, their RAID controller and drivers combined with Win7 64 equaled total data loss on the 2TB volume. Thats really an unacceptable failure point on mature technology. Drive failure is to be expected, controller or driver problems are not.

Can you summarize what happened?

At any rate, VirtualLarry is correct -- RAID is not meant as a backup; it is meant for fault tolerance. You should always have backups of your critical data. I run backups on my server every night and in a couple of instances, it has saved me when I had to restore some virtual machines.

All failures need to be planned for. That's why you have disk fault tolerance (RAID) + backups. RAID won't save you if it's working but something corrupts your data. You better have a backup in that case.

This. To give an example, several years ago, I installed some new memory in my server (which had a RAID5 data array). The memory was bad and as a result, my domain controller VM suffered major data corruption. So once I removed the RAM, I restored Active Directory from my nightly backup and everything was fine within an hour or two.

I also had an odd incident recently where my domain controller VM seemed to get corrupted during a RAID rebuild. It would not start up at all. No problem though -- I restored it from a backup and was up within minutes.

 

[lifestorie11]

Can you summarize what happened?

At any rate, VirtualLarry is correct -- RAID is not meant as a backup; it is meant for fault tolerance. You should always have backups of your critical data. I run backups on my server every night and in a couple of instances, it has saved me when I had to restore some virtual machines.



This. To give an example, several years ago, I installed some new memory in my server (which had a RAID5 data array). The memory was bad and as a result, my domain controller VM suffered major data corruption. So once I removed the RAM, I restored Active Directory from my nightly backup and everything was fine within an hour or two.

I also had an odd incident recently where my domain controller VM seemed to get corrupted during a RAID rebuild. It would not start up at all. No problem though -- I restored it from a backup and was up within minutes.

What type of server do you run? What do you use for backups? I am looking for a new backup solution as I am about to get my ubuntu server back online. Need to have backups

 

[thestrangebrew1]

In my server, as far as backups go, I have a 1tb hdd dedicated for all my critical files (don't have much) and a 2tb external hdd that I back up critical files and then somewhat critical files. I'm contemplating using bds to write important stuff to also, don't think I'm going to any cloud solutions anytime soon.

 

[lifestorie11]

In my server, as far as backups go, I have a 1tb hdd dedicated for all my critical files (don't have much) and a 2tb external hdd that I back up critical files and then somewhat critical files. I'm contemplating using bds to write important stuff to also, don't think I'm going to any cloud solutions anytime soon.

What software solution for backups? I have the storage part under control just want to find something more simple and automated for daily/weekly backups.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

What type of server do you run? What do you use for backups? I am looking for a new backup solution as I am about to get my ubuntu server back online. Need to have backups

I'm running a Windows 2008 R2 Enterprise server with Hyper V and a couple of VMs currently (short on RAM). I have an external 2 TB USB drive and I back up my critical data files and VMs to that drive using Windows Backup. Some data, such as DVD/blu ray rips, is not backed up.

I'm currently building a new server to replace my current server (dual Xeon, up to 512 GB of RAM, possibly Windows 2012 Datacenter, etc) and when I do, I will probably take the existing server and make it a backup NAS and back up everything to it (an initial full and than nightly incrementals or differentials). I would like to back up the really critical stuff offsite as well, and that will be something I investigate in the future.