Or...they slapped a red sticker on a green drive.
NAS encompasses devices ranging from consumer enclosures with a network jack, to COTS and near-COTS servers costing many thousands of dollars, usually running Linux, FreeBSD, or a black-box embedded OS.Tell me why again, MS is cancelling WHS because supposedly the market is too small, but yet that linked article in this thread said that the market for NAS was supposed to grow 86% over the next few years, and WD believes this enough to even release a new HD model line.
More like a firmware change, since people have been bitching about the Green drives since almost day 1 in Linux file servers. I like it, from what I see, but I have no doubt that it's a Green with a different firmware.I am very interested in these drives. Seems like a well thought out variation. Engineered for reliability and 24/7 NAS use. Nice one WD!
More like a firmware change, since people have been bitching about the Green drives since almost day 1 in Linux file servers. I like it, from what I see, but I have no doubt that it's a Green with a different firmware.
The 1TB RE4 is only 10 dollars more (on new egg). I'd say it is well worth it to pay the extra for an enterprise quality HDD. As for the 2TB edition, the red starts to look like an option.
"Enterprise" quality or higher (inflated)MTBF hard drives are marketing at it's best. Real world study suggest they fail more often than their cheaper consumer-level buddies...The 1TB RE4 is only 10 dollars more (on new egg). I'd say it is well worth it to pay the extra for an enterprise quality HDD. As for the 2TB edition, the red starts to look like an option.
Or...they slapped a red sticker on a green drive.
Adding a green sticker doesn't create a 1TB platter. This is new hardware as well as new firmware.
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I have many Western Digital drives, including the "cheaper" models as well as enterprise drives and I've not found that to be the case at all. What "real world" studies are you referring to? Do you have some facts and figures?"Enterprise" quality or higher (inflated)MTBF hard drives are marketing at it's best. Real world study suggest they fail more often than their cheaper consumer-level buddies...
WD copying the Johnnie Walker labeling scheme.
Johnnie Walker
Green Label
Blue Label
Black Label
Red Label
Gold Label
WD
Caviar Green
Caviar Blue
Caviar Black
NAS Red
WD just need to slap a gold sticker on the RE4 and the collection is complete
"Enterprise" quality or higher (inflated)MTBF hard drives are marketing at it's best. Real world study suggest they fail more often than their cheaper consumer-level buddies...
I have many Western Digital drives, including the "cheaper" models as well as enterprise drives and I've not found that to be the case at all. What "real world" studies are you referring to? Do you have some facts and figures?
Enterprise drives are used for everyday work; scratch discs, work in progress and immediate storage. I am in the process of replacing my nearly out of warranty Seagate Barracuda 1TB drives with FE4s, I have one additional Caviar Black. I have a few Samsung F204UI 2TB drives in my main workstation for immediate backup. The Seagates will wind up in an external enclosure or my Linux file server.In fact, that could explain ronbo613's situation, since he has enterprise and consumer drives side by side.
Ah...I don't normally like whiskey, but I had some Johnnie Walker Red the other day... If WD can get their customers even a small amount of that satisfaction then their red will also be a hit!
Keep in mind that most enterprise HDD's are used a lot more than consumer grade ones. So even if some "real world" anecdotal evidence suggests that the enterprise hdd's don't last as long, I'd wager that if you looked at the amount of usage before failure in both types of devies you'd find that the enterprise drives did a lot more work before giving up the ghost. In fact, that could explain ronbo613's situation, since he has enterprise and consumer drives side by side.
Happy to see those stats are for 2TB drives, all my RE4 drives are 1TB. Backs up my reason to be satisfied with the Samsung F4 2TB drives I have as well. Could it be there are more returns for the RE4 because the longer warranty period would include more drives overall? Also, I know with Seagate there was a big quality difference between models.What I said was based on the results of the infamous Google study, the single biggest research ever done on hard drives afaik. It should be a reference, strangely not many have read it.
Your assumptions are meaningless, as the research data suggest that amount of work has negligible effect on reliability, but AGE does.
Coincidentally on humans, you might think people who work less are supposed to live longer. Yet the opposite is true...And the ultimate secret to longer live? Reduce your food consumption by 30% :read hunger)
@ronbo613
http://www.behardware.com/articles/862-6/components-returns-rates-6.html
Excerpt from behardware
Return Rates of 2tb Hd's
- 7.53% Seagate Barracuda XT 2 TB SATA 6Gb/s
- 5.78% Western Digital RE4-GP 2 TB
- 4.53% Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000 2 TB
- 3.18% Western Digital Caviar Black 2 TB
- 3.07% Western Digital AV-GP 2 TB
- 2.55% Seagate Barracuda LP 2 TB
- 2.31% Western Digital Caviar Green 2 TB WD20EARX
- 2.15% Western Digital Caviar Green 2 TB WD20EARS
- 1.80% Samsung SpinPoint F4 EcoGreen 2 TB
Could it be there are more returns for the RE4 because the longer warranty period would include more drives overall?
The returns rates given here concern the products sold between April 1st and October 1st 2011 for returns made before April 2012, namely after between 6 months and a year of use. Over the lifetime of a product the returns generally form a spread out U on the graph, with the end virtually flat. Our figures therefore cover the early part of the lifetime of products, where returns rates are high.
i would take the newegg reviews with a big grain of salt. not always very accuratethe two early reviews on newegg for the 2tb version not so rosy...
the two early reviews on newegg for the 2tb version not so rosy...