WD SATA 10k Raptor on sale @ newegg $140 free shipping

[dakels]

The fastest SATA drive on the market IIRC.

Western Digital Raptor 36GB SATA WD360GD 10,000 RPM 8MB Hard Drive OEM
Specifications:
Size: 36.7 Gigabytes
Interface: Serial ATA
Seek time: 5.2ms
RPM:10,000
Data Transfer: 150MB/sec Max
Cache:8MB

$140 shipped free from newegg
currently in stock 6/11 4pm EST

This is the cheapest price with shipping I have seen from any reputable dealer, and this one is from the great people at newegg. Makes a awesome bootup/application/swap drive. Many of you who bought recent dell 4600 or 8300 deals might want to put one or 2 (in RAID 0) of these puppies on your 2 SATA onboard channels.

Anandtech review
Newegg customer review's

 

[DaCurryman]

nice...I got in on the 4600 deal, but wish I had another $143 for this drive. Would make a great boot & apps drive!!

How do regular SATA (7200rpm) drives compare to IDE (7200rpm drives)?

 

[k1114]

Originally posted by: DaCurryman
How do regular SATA (7200rpm) drives compare to IDE (7200rpm drives)?

They are essentially the same drives with a different plug. The raptor is special becasue it's made primarily of SCSI hardware, not normal IDE components.

 

[booze]

when is the 18gb going to be available? that'd be a perfect os/apps drive for me.

 

[dakels]

Originally posted by: k1114

Originally posted by: DaCurryman
How do regular SATA (7200rpm) drives compare to IDE (7200rpm drives)?

They are essentially the same drives with a different plug. The raptor is special becasue it's made primarily of SCSI hardware, not normal IDE components.

I hear the SATA RAID's are much less demanding on the CPU then normal IDE RAIDs. I'm sure that all depends on the controllers. The SATA round cables are relly nice too, thinner and shielded. Not a whole lot of difference for the 7200's but it's not a whole lot of price difference either when you look at normal retail prices and not special hot deals. Still, I, personally, wouldn't bother going to SATA unless it was the 10k raptors or the next generation.

 

[godofuq]

The Serial ATA drives are nice, even if they aren't the 10k raptors, since they use less energy, they're hot swappable (as long as the controller supports it) and most manufacturer's are offering longer warranties on them then regular IDE drives.

 

[weepul]

Originally posted by: godofuq
The Serial ATA drives are nice, even if they aren't the 10k raptors, since they use less energy, they're hot swappable (as long as the controller supports it) and most manufacturer's are offering longer warranties on them then regular IDE drives.

wonder what's different about it. over 90% of regular ide drives die within 3yrs. wonder if sata drives are better built.

//krunk (^_^x)

 

[godofuq]

Well, most manufacturers, Maxtor included, has dropped most of their normal IDE drive warranties to 1 year. Most manufacturers are offering up to 3 year warranties on SATA drives and it appears WD included a 5 year warranty for their retail raptors. One could only guess why this is but I'm guessing it's more of a marketing ploy. Since they refurbish the drives and send those back out as replacement, I'm sure it doesn't cost them "loads" of money.

 

[VaG]

It might be worth mentioning that the newegg drive is OEM not retail and carries a 3 year warranty instead of the 5 year mentioned in the anand review.

 

[lazarus000]

i believe this raptor drive has a much faster seek time than regular IDE drives.


average ide ata 7200 drives are 9 ms

the 10k sata raptor is around 5.3 ms

IIRC

 

[beer]

Originally posted by: weepul

Originally posted by: godofuq
The Serial ATA drives are nice, even if they aren't the 10k raptors, since they use less energy, they're hot swappable (as long as the controller supports it) and most manufacturer's are offering longer warranties on them then regular IDE drives.

wonder what's different about it. over 90% of regular ide drives die within 3yrs. wonder if sata drives are better built.

//krunk (^_^x)

90% within 3 years?

That'd be news to our IT department. Source? Quit pullin sh!t outta your ass.

 

[kombatmud]

10,000 rpm drives significantly outperform 7200 rpm drives.

SATA is just like ATA w/ a smaller cable, a higher theoretical bandwidth that is unrealistic since it would be bottlenecked by the PCI bus, and a restriction of a single device per channel.

 

[godofuq]

Originally posted by: kombatmud
10,000 rpm drives significantly outperform 7200 rpm drives.

SATA is just like ATA w/ a smaller cable, a higher theoretical bandwidth that is unrealistic since it would be bottlenecked by the PCI bus, and a restriction of a single device per channel.

It's not unrealistic once it gets its own dedicated channel off of the PCI bus and/or once a new PCI standard is introduced (which should be done before the bandwidth of SATA first doubles in 2005)

 

[MightyMan]

Depends on what bus the SATA is running on.

If you check out the Canterwood boards, the SATA is on the ICH5R which is *not* part of the PCI bus. So yeah, the bandwidth is definitely higher (150 instead of PCI limited 133). Unfortunately, it's also the same reason why the ICH5R only has two connections -- two Raptors still don't come close to hitting the bandwidth, but three can easily exceed it.

MM

 

[Mawashi]

I have the intel D865GL that support SATA and IDE, can i run both simultaneously? I'm currently using a WD 8MB, would the gain in speed be significant?

 

[Boen]

So I guess no cables come with this?

 

[ViperV990]

Originally posted by: MightyMan
If you check out the Canterwood boards, the SATA is on the ICH5R which is *not* part of the PCI bus.

Unless you have the P4C800. I know at least two guys that bought this board without knowing that both GbE and SATA are running off the PCI bus, lol.

 

[RGrizzzz]

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wonder what's different about it. over 90% of regular ide drives die within 3yrs. wonder if sata drives are better built.

//krunk (^_^x)
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90%!!!! What are you smoking?

 

[NordicNINE]

Actually, many of the 865PE, and even some 875 do not have the Intel CSA Gigabit ethernet and instead use a different chip and run it off the PCI.
If it's not gigabit, then for sure it's not CSA. If it is Gigabit, make sure it's CSA, because some board makers are cheap and don't use the Intel part.

I have a D865PERLK (well, not yet, should be here Thursday), which does have the CSA.

 

[godofuq]

Originally posted by: Boen
So I guess no cables come with this?

Nope, no cable but they carry those for ~$8-$9. Might be able to pick up the cable cheaper at a Mom and Pop store somewhere.

 

[ViperV990]

I've yet to see a SATA-capable mobo or controller card that doesn't come with at least one SATA cable, lol.

 

[DaCurryman]

Originally posted by: ViperV990

Originally posted by: MightyMan
If you check out the Canterwood boards, the SATA is on the ICH5R which is *not* part of the PCI bus.

Unless you have the P4C800. I know at least two guys that bought this board without knowing that both GbE and SATA are running off the PCI bus, lol.

These wouldnt be the boards on the Dell 8300 you're talking about are they?

 

[MightyMan]

Actually, my mistake, I was referring in particular to the Abit IC7-G which I was about -><- close to buying last night.

There are two SATA channels on the ICH5R and another two SATA that are on the PCI bus.

But if you've got the *Intel* CSA Gigabit Ethernet, yeah, it should be separate buses.
MM

 

[profbobo]

I have two of the Raptor 10000 rpm SATA drives in my new pc. They're VERY fast Got good reviews here at AT too ... I'd hop on it if I didn't already have some

 

[edplayer]

Originally posted by: weepul
wonder what's different about it. over 90% of regular ide drives die within 3yrs. wonder if sata drives are better built.

//krunk (^_^x)

mmmm, No. Drugs are bad, mmmkay!