We all know a video card can catch fire but can it...

Bubbleawsome

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Why couldn't it? If it's on fire other things could catch fire.

Is this really highly technical though?
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Burn down a house ?

Fire is fire. Basically every structure that has burned down since structures have existed started as a fire from something else first. So yeah, a video card could burn down your house if it caught on fire.

Tell your friend to play with matches more.
 

Red Squirrel

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The amount of energy in a modern computer is actually quite high up there especially at the video card so I'd say that it definitely could. But this is why we typically put these things in a metal case as the chances are decent that anything combustible in there would burn off before the flames got out of control. Consider that a 20w soldering iron can start to burn into wood. In a video card you have 100's of watts mostly concentrated in a tiny area the size of your finger nail. The heat sinks are there to dissipate it but if that fails, or that energy is diverted to another component due to a fault that's a lot of energy.

Short answer is yes, but the odds are probably pretty small given it would be half decently contained. A fault may also not cause all the energy to be released, a mosfet blowing up for example would be a short burst, then all energy is cut off.
 

TBC33

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Short answer is yes, but the odds are probably pretty small given it would be half decently contained. A fault may also not cause all the energy to be released, a mosfet blowing up for example would be a short burst, then all energy is cut off.
I agree, but the fact is difficult to catch fire if you use it properly.
 

PottedMeat

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the only question is 'are there combustible materials around it?'

'why did i use a cardboard box as my case?'
'should i use 30awg wire for the aux power connections?'
 

mindless1

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It would require a very rare set of circumstances. First, video cards very rarely actually catch on fire. Seeing burnt, charred residue from excessive heat is not the same as a flame needed to ignite something else. "IF" there were a power cord situated in such a way that intense heat ignited the insulation, perhaps it would catch on fire, but the odds are that the shorted out video card would trip the PSU overcurrent protection long before then. Heat from the GPU is contained under the heatsink. Heat from shorted mosfets would desolder them and cause them to fall off or pop before flames. You usually only see a spark when a high voltage transistor blows in a PSU, not a low voltage one on a video card.

Suppose some evil elf had been spraying a combustible liquid into the PC case exactly at the right moment. That could create enough flame to ignite more, but without that, a typical PC case would contain the flame and most likely self-extinguish.

Next suppose that somehow there was something creating some embers that flew out of the case and landed on a pile of kindling that you happened to have piled up next to the PC case for no particular reason, or perhaps a stack of paper. That could spread the fire to the rest of the house. It could take a long time attempting to make this chain of events happen on purpose to be successful doing it.

What would be far more likely than even the first half of this happening is that lightning struck, caught the house on fire, and the resultant power surge fried the video card in the process.

On a side note every now and then I use a blowtorch to mass desolder parts off of motherboards. It will catch the PCB on fire and make a huge stink, so I do it outside, but it self extinguishes once the blowtorch is removed.

Can a video card burn a house down? Realistically no the chances are too slim to consider, but if you are cursed then anything is possible.
 
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bryanl

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No worry with a metal case. I'm not sure about side windows, but a maker of clear cases warned against using them unattended.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Working at my previous location, we had a 'comm closet' which housed some networking equipment (some stacked cisco 48p switches, and a pair of 6500's used as core networking/outbound traffic stack). This room had a single air vent which jammed cold air into it, which was appropriate for it's original intent as a mop closet (about 2x2m, but wholly insufficient to house networking equipment. As a result it was usually a bit warm inside. The AC kept it under control however, usually 2-7c over ambient outside the door.

I came in to work one day to hear that comm closet absolutely screaming from the fans, and the whole office was very warm (probably around 45c). Turns out the AC in the building died (backups? what's that?) and that room basically turned into a furnace. Now most equipment has nice overheating features, and cisco is no different, but the way theirs worked was there's a 'shutdown threshold' where above that temp it starts a 5 minute shutdown routine unless the temp drops enough. It's at like 95c or something. Funfortunately, if the temp gets too high it seems to basically hard-lock the system which didn't/doesn't shut it down, it just keeps doing *something* with power to the processing units. These two were sitting like giant hair dryers for a few hours not actually processing data.

The room itself was probably closer to 70c ambient, the cladding on all the cat5 in that room (probably 400 runs of it) was soft to the touch (such that I could just pull it off the cable, much of the bulk became partially fused from that event), and I don't even know what the actual 6500's were sitting at, but I'd guess 120c or higher. Opening that door was seriously like opening an oven.

Amazingly, the building switches were still happily switching away. One of the 6500's dumped its config (? don't know why) but it worked fine after letting the damn case cool off and firing it back up, other one was fine after shutting it down for 10m or so then firing it back up. Nothing caught on fire though!
 

Yakk

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I would say it's quite possible, but very unlikely with all the fuses and/or circuit breakers. There's probably been thousands of AMD mining farms over the last decade with no word of fires.

However nvidia with their now infamous 690 GTX & more recently Evga have shown us they can blow VRMs pretty easily and create sparks for potential fires.
 

VeryCharBroiled

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ive seen peg connectors melted/burnt on mining cards, and my seasonic psu melted a peg plug in the psu side.

from melted to flames insnt that much more.
 

mindless1

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^ If that were true then a significant % of those melted would have caught fire. There are millions of PCs running every day, and thousands that fail every day. We don't have to theorize much about it when they just aren't catching on fire. Melting requires a little heat, while flame requires a lot more, enough that it would shut down a PSU and foul the electrical connection until then, and then the flame needs a way to spread.

It's like asking "Can an asteroid hit my car?", or "Will an alligator bite my leg off at 3PM on Tuesday?". Neither is impossible, but I wouldn't plan my day with those as serious concerns.
 
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VeryCharBroiled

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^ If that were true then a significant % of those melted would have caught fire.

i phrased it badly. melted implies deformed, a far cry from burnt.

my seasonic peg wires coating was crispy as in the plastic flaked off and the exposed wires were oxidized (if thats the right word). discolored might be a better term.

dunno if there was any smoke, the video card just stopped working. doubt there was any flame.

cryptocurrenty mining has seen many a rig being built with safety or sanity being far down the list of priorities.
 

Rifter

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In a metal computer case no.

In a cardboard case ontop of a jerry can of gasoline, probably.
 
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