We are losing an entire generation of men to video games

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shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Cultural and social stigmas aside it doesn't really make sense to move out and pay rent from a practical stand point as long as you have a good family relationship. Paying rent just means you are contributing to someone elses/families equity while taking away from your own/your families.

Moving out and paying a mortgage towards actually owning your home is a different matter since that can be building equity.

Well, it would make sense, if the real estate corporations didn't fuck up and devalue trillions of dollars in property.
 

StinkyPinky

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Jul 6, 2002
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I have the opposite problem. I used to love video games but now find it harder and harder to enjoy them. I used to be able to play for hours, but now get bored after an hour. I don't even finish most games now. Someone please help. Donations welcome.
 

highland145

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I have the opposite problem. I used to love video games but now find it harder and harder to enjoy them. I used to be able to play for hours, but now get bored after an hour. I don't even finish most games now. Someone please help. Donations welcome.
PM me an address and I'll send you Assassins Creed 2. Couldn't finish #1.

 

local

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Jun 28, 2011
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The real question is do we want them back? Personally as a Gen X/Millennial cusper I am greatly enjoying the reduced competition from the younger people entering the workplace.
 

brianmanahan

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PM me an address and I'll send you Assassins Creed 2. Couldn't finish #1.


assassin's creed is the one series where i have to beat all the games

i love the whole "first civilization" thing and i always play trying to find out more about them, even though ubisoft only puts like 2 minutes about the backstory in some of the games
 
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I blame women. Look at when women entered the workforce en masse. When that happened everything got more expensive since there was more money in the economy. Housing being the most prominent.


Everyone will only call you sexist for pointing this out, but it is in fact true. Part of the reason wages for everything went down is because we effectively nearly doubled the number of workers by switching to a culture where the woman works as well.
 

brianmanahan

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The real question is do we want them back? Personally as a Gen X/Millennial cusper I am greatly enjoying the reduced competition from the younger people entering the workplace.

true, it's not like i mind reduced competition for jobs. there are always a ton of local software devs jobs and i can get multiple interviews lined up any time i want.
 

local

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I do believe that video games are also a bit of a double edged sword as well. On one hand they require interaction unlike TV so you can exercise your mind by solving puzzles and using your imagination or thinking of tactics and strategy. But as a result of engaging your mind they can also suck you in much more than TV such as EQ and WOW addiction causing deaths. VR is the first step into the next phase that provides even more immersion and will suck even more minds into it. Can anyone honestly say they would ever leave a Star Trek style holodeck if they had one? I know I wouldn't. I can see something like the Matrix becoming reality except there wouldn't be a war we would go willingly.
 
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digiram

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I actually slowed down and didn't game much durring my twenties. Had to get my hustle on in starting a family, buying a home, and such. Also, I was damn near working and going to school full time back then. I'm in my late 30's and game a bit more now, but I can't get into long story line rpg's and such that I used to love. I bought ff15, and barely started it. Gaming is more of a social experience for me. I just play to hang out with family and friends over a game.
 

StinkyPinky

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Most of it is time constraints but I also loathe cutscenes. And my god, do most AAA titles love cutscenes. The game I played the most recently was Stardew Valley mostly because it was a simple game that was actually fun to play.
 

brianmanahan

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Most of it is time constraints but I also loathe cutscenes. And my god, do most AAA titles love cutscenes. The game I played the most recently was Stardew Valley mostly because it was a simple game that was actually fun to play.

stardew valley looked like the first real worthy successor to harvest moon, which i absolutely loved on the SNES
 

LogicBoard

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After what Starcraft did to me, I stopped cold turkey. Don't even want to try because I know what's going to happen.
 

Murloc

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meh when I started university I started playing less and less... the first years only after the exams when I had a week or two where I could do nothing.

Then it turned into years until now where I only play casual games, like a server-based FPS game where I can come and go and the weapons are the same for everybody, or paladins which has a pre-determined maximum duration.
I still play at least 2 hours per week anyway.

I don't even care about playing the single player campaigns of AAA titles anymore, I prefer the quiet of a passive GPU to the impulse of picking up single player gaming again.
 

disappoint

Lifer
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I do believe that video games are also a bit of a double edged sword as well. On one hand they require interaction unlike TV so you can exercise your mind by solving puzzles and using your imagination or thinking of tactics and strategy. But as a result of engaging your mind they can also suck you in much more than TV such as EQ and WOW addiction causing deaths. VR is the first step into the next phase that provides even more immersion and will suck even more minds into it. Can anyone honestly say they would ever leave a Star Trek style holodeck if they had one? I know I wouldn't. I can see something like the Matrix becoming reality except there wouldn't be a war we would go willingly.

Of course I would leave. You can't eat holograms. Look, you're either going to leave voluntarily or be carried out in a stretcher with a sheet over you and no vital signs. Take your pick.
 

brianmanahan

Lifer
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Of course I would leave. You can't eat holograms. Look, you're either going to leave voluntarily or be carried out in a stretcher with a sheet over you and no vital signs. Take your pick.

one potential that has been discussed is an in-memory "holodeck" - power to control thoughts to observe and control a complete experience. like dreams, but whatever you want them to be.

hook yourself up with one of those, go on life support, and you might never want to come out.
 

madoka

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Of course I would leave. You can't eat holograms. Look, you're either going to leave voluntarily or be carried out in a stretcher with a sheet over you and no vital signs. Take your pick.

Have you considered that we are all just simulations for Bill Gate's holodeck experience?
 

OverVolt

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Stardew valley is awesome BTW.

I don't think its exclusively video games.

The family unit is dead, colleges teach in ways that favor women, men have to be terrified of HR in the workplace etc. etc.

I could really go on but men have been hamstrung to societies detriment. There is ZERO value placed on men. So you gotta look out for yourself. Luckily its what men are good at doing anyway.
 

OverVolt

Lifer
Aug 31, 2002
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Everyone will only call you sexist for pointing this out, but it is in fact true. Part of the reason wages for everything went down is because we effectively nearly doubled the number of workers by switching to a culture where the woman works as well.
Women always worked, it has more to do with qualifications. Starting in the 90's is when people with high school degrees and 30 years of experience trained their brainless college degree drone replacements. More women than men are graduating college and from an HR perspective they're trying to make their numbers look good by hiring women in typically men dominated industries.

Men basically have computers and physical labor/the trades going for them.
 

disappoint

Lifer
Dec 7, 2009
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one potential that has been discussed is an in-memory "holodeck" - power to control thoughts to observe and control a complete experience. like dreams, but whatever you want them to be.

hook yourself up with one of those, go on life support, and you might never want to come out.

Are you saying you would voluntarily become a vegetable on life support?
 

local

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Jun 28, 2011
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Are you saying you would voluntarily become a vegetable on life support?

If I were to be put into a Matrix type simulation where there is no difference from reality to my mind AND it was treated like my own personal simulation of the world where I had godlike powers, absolutely.
 
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