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TwiceOver

Lifer
Dec 20, 2002
13,544
44
91
Wow this violates a multitude AT forum rules, but the minute I swear outside the "social" forums I get a flag.

Nevertheless, OP you have cash on the way. I'm in every pool I can find at this point.
 

mnewsham

Lifer
Oct 2, 2010
14,539
428
136
I think we all would have to make our claim and take the payouts individually...you can't hand over millions to other people without paying taxes again...

Blind trust divide evenly, everyone pays taxes once.
 

SunnyD

Belgian Waffler
Jan 2, 2001
32,674
145
106
www.neftastic.com
I think we all would have to make our claim and take the payouts individually...you can't hand over millions to other people without paying taxes again...

This. The payout would be made across all of the claimants unless we "allow" Vivi to collect the payout directly as a single individual. The drawback to that is that we would all essentially get taxed twice - Vivi would get taxed initially then would be making a payment to each of us after taxes which we would then be taxed on as it would likely be much larger than exempt gifts.

If we win, we would all pretty much need to show up to collect. Though Vivi could potentially collect it as a trust, but then lawyers would want their cut.
 

Gunslinger08

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
13,234
2
81
If by some miracle we win the jackpot, we'll figure out the tax issues before collecting. I would imagine we'll have to form a trust or corporation together. The winnings would be paid to the corp, which would pay the taxes, and the corp would disperse the money to us.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
110,810
29,564
146
LOL I got a stupid question.. and I am lazy soo.

Is this open only for citizens or.. are legal residents included too?

personally, I wouldn't care (GF is a legal resident)

I know there are others on AT, though, that don't like dem furners. So, your Mileage May Vary.

But I was also considering this--we can't really work with those outside of the US, right?
 

Sacraster

Senior member
May 31, 2001
880
0
76
If by some miracle we win the jackpot, we'll figure out the tax issues before collecting. I would imagine we'll have to form a trust or corporation together. The winnings would be paid to the corp, which would pay the taxes, and the corp would disperse the money to us.

this
 

mnewsham

Lifer
Oct 2, 2010
14,539
428
136
If by some miracle we win the jackpot, we'll figure out the tax issues before collecting. I would imagine we'll have to form a trust or corporation together. The winnings would be paid to the corp, which would pay the taxes, and the corp would disperse the money to us.

yup, basically a more expanded version of what i already said

good thing we are on the same wavelegnth.
 

Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
78,716
417
126
tbqhwy.com
This. The payout would be made across all of the claimants unless we "allow" Vivi to collect the payout directly as a single individual. The drawback to that is that we would all essentially get taxed twice - Vivi would get taxed initially then would be making a payment to each of us after taxes which we would then be taxed on as it would likely be much larger than exempt gifts.

If we win, we would all pretty much need to show up to collect. Though Vivi could potentially collect it as a trust, but then lawyers would want their cut.

there are anough lawyers here on AT or relatives of members that i think we would not have an issue with that part of it
 

ViviTheMage

Lifer
Dec 12, 2002
36,190
85
91
madgenius.com
This. The payout would be made across all of the claimants unless we "allow" Vivi to collect the payout directly as a single individual. The drawback to that is that we would all essentially get taxed twice - Vivi would get taxed initially then would be making a payment to each of us after taxes which we would then be taxed on as it would likely be much larger than exempt gifts.

If we win, we would all pretty much need to show up to collect. Though Vivi could potentially collect it as a trust, but then lawyers would want their cut.

fun to talk about, but we will see what happens if we do win, LOL.

Wow this violates a multitude AT forum rules, but the minute I swear outside the "social" forums I get a flag.

Nevertheless, OP you have cash on the way. I'm in every pool I can find at this point.

Yeah, hopefully we can get as many in as we can

Which rules btw?
 

SillyOReilly

Golden Member
Aug 11, 2007
1,535
6
81
agreed, no offense to anyone willing to step up but the way I see it, it's all in good fun and while I don't expect to win, I'm willing to take the larger hit on taxes if we do cuz I trust vivi.

plus if vivi tickets win, then you could make the case that we would've lost if we went with someone in cali, lets not put a hex on this.

You are all already trusting vivi to let you know if one of the tickets hit.

There's no reason for him to cash it in then disburse the money. Plenty of pools have been hit and the lottery commission has no problem disbursing the money to all the players.

Let's make this simple:

100 ATOT people are in to split 400 million lump sum after all taxes. The taxes are paid by vivi.

Vivi then distributes the money to the 100 oters at 4 mil each. They would then bear the tax burden on that, giving away 25% plus their state taxes. Why would you all give away a million dollars plus state taxes for no reason?

If you'd just claim it as a pool, it will be broken up to the 100 people at the 4 million after all taxes, varying amount by state of course.
 

ViviTheMage

Lifer
Dec 12, 2002
36,190
85
91
madgenius.com
If by some miracle we win the jackpot, we'll figure out the tax issues before collecting. I would imagine we'll have to form a trust or corporation together. The winnings would be paid to the corp, which would pay the taxes, and the corp would disperse the money to us.

Your avatar makes me think you know finance, so I trust in this idea.
 

busydude

Diamond Member
Feb 5, 2010
8,793
5
76
Well, I am a citizen, so we're good there ... not sure how we deal about any of you not citizens?

AFAIK I pay the taxes, and then you guys do not, correct me if I am wrong?

We pay taxes all right. I know that I am eligible for most of the giveaways and prizes.. but not sure about lottery.
 

LookBehindYou

Platinum Member
Dec 23, 2010
2,412
1
81
If by some miracle we win the jackpot, we'll figure out the tax issues before collecting. I would imagine we'll have to form a trust or corporation together. The winnings would be paid to the corp, which would pay the taxes, and the corp would disperse the money to us.

Hey we can keep the money in the corp and start a legit business. We could sell pudding filled fleshlights and turn our millions into BILLIONS!!!:biggrin:
 

MetalMat

Diamond Member
Jun 14, 2004
9,692
36
91
I say we get the money in gold coins, put it in a big vault and go swimming in it Scrooge McDuck style
 

SillyOReilly

Golden Member
Aug 11, 2007
1,535
6
81
If by some miracle we win the jackpot, we'll figure out the tax issues before collecting. I would imagine we'll have to form a trust or corporation together. The winnings would be paid to the corp, which would pay the taxes, and the corp would disperse the money to us.

There's nothing to "figure out"

You are all already trusting vivi to let you know if one of the tickets hit.

There's no reason for him to cash it in then disburse the money. Plenty of pools have been hit and the lottery commission has no problem disbursing the money to all the players.

Let's make this simple:

100 ATOT people are in to split 400 million lump sum after all taxes. The taxes are paid by vivi.

Vivi then distributes the money to the 100 oters at 4 mil each. They would then bear the tax burden on that, giving away 25% plus their state taxes. Why would you all give away a million dollars plus state taxes for no reason?

If you'd just claim it as a pool, it will be broken up to the 100 people at the 4 million after all taxes, varying amount by state of course.
 

rcpratt

Lifer
Jul 2, 2009
10,433
110
116
I know I said this was stupid, but what the hell, I'm in. This is too hilarious to pass up.

YGPM.
 

darkxshade

Lifer
Mar 31, 2001
13,749
6
81
It's funny, I hope we win not because I want the money(although that's the reason I'm in it), but because of the sheer awesomeness of that meetup among us winners when collecting said winnings.
 

mnewsham

Lifer
Oct 2, 2010
14,539
428
136
It's funny, I hope we win not because I want the money(although that's the reason I'm in it), but because of the sheer awesomeness of that meetup among us winners when collecting said winnings.

40+ millionaires "randomly" meet up at a bar
 
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