We had that time in Germany,

Viper1j

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Kind of deep when a German says it..

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/22/business/siemens-ceo-joe-kaeser-trump/index.html

A top CEO calls out Trump's racism

London (CNN Business)The CEO of German industrial giant Siemens says that President Donald Trump is becoming a symbol of intolerance following his attacks on four female members of Congress.

"I find it depressing that the most important political office in the world is turning into the face of racism and exclusion," Joe Kaeser said Saturday on Twitter.
Kaeser's remarks are the most prominent criticism from the business world in reaction to Trump's rally last week in North Carolina. The US president attacked Somali-born Minnesota Representative Ilhan Omar and the crowd chanted "Send her back! Send her back!"
The rally followed a series of racist tweets in which Trump suggested that four minority congresswomen "go back" to their home countries. Three were born in America and all four are US citizens.

Kaeser suggested that Trump's attacks do not reflect the America he knows. He worked as chief financial officer of Siemens Microelectronics in San Jose, California, during the 1990s.

"I lived in the USA for many years and experienced freedom, tolerance and openness as never before," he said in his Twitter (TWTR) post.
Das Rücknahme-Risiko besteht wohl nicht. Aber es bedrückt mich, dass das wichtigste pol. Amt der Welt das Gesicht von Rassismus und Ausgrenzung wird. Ich habe viele Jahre in USA gelebt und Freiheit, Toleranz und Offenheit erfahren, wie nie zuvor. Das war „America Great at work"!!
— Joe Kaeser (@JoeKaeser) July 20, 2019
Many corporate leaders expressed optimism in the early days of the Trump administration that they could find common ground with a president who had run a business of his own and who wanted to cut corporate taxes and slash regulations. But the administration's focus on immigration and other divisive social issues, combined with its aggressive prosecution of a trade war with China, has soured the White House's relationship with many big global companies.

Kaeser, 62, who started work at Siemens in 1980 and become CEO in 2013, has demonstrated a willingness to speak frankly on controversial political issues.
Siemens (SIEGY) wrote an open letter to its employees in the German state of Saxony in 2018 after anti-immigration protesters there were photographed giving the outlawed Nazi salute. The letter denounced xenophobia.

Earlier in the year, Kaeser sharply criticized a German lawmaker, saying that their nationalism would harm the country's prosperity.

"I'm there to represent the company and be accountable to the shareholders; on the other hand, if people turn their head away. ... Well, we had that time in Germany," Kaeser told the Financial Times in May 2018.

"Nobody spoke up. Then it was too late," he added.


Kaeser also took a stand when he pulled out of Saudi Arabia's Future Investment Initiativefollowing the murder of Jamal Khashoggi at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, Turkey. "As soon as I heard of his death, it was clear to me that we couldn't simply move on and do business as usual," Kaeser said last October.
Siemens has nearly 380,000 employees around the world. It makes products such as high speed trains, air conditioning plants, energy transmissions systems and gas turbines.

It has substantial operations in the United States including production and research centers.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel said Friday that Trump's comments about the lawmakers "undermine America's strength."
Speaking at her annual news conference in Berlin, Merkel said: "I distance myself from this decidedly and stand in solidarity with the women who were attacked."
She added that from her perspective the United States' strength "lies exactly in the fact that people of very different nationalities contribute."
 

balloonshark

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You know you support the wrong people and party when Germany calls you out. Too bad they won't take a moment to contemplate if they are wrong or right. All this will do is enforce their us against them false belief and give them someone else to hate on.
 

ubern00b

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That's rich considering how German's and other Europeans think of us in the UK just for wanting out of the dictatorship that is the EUSSR, people in glass houses and all that
 
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sdifox

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That's rich considering how German's and other Europeans think of us in the UK just for wanting out of the dictatorship that is the EUSSR, people in glass houses and all that


Dictatorship? UK had the best deal in EU.
 

ubern00b

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Dictatorship? UK had the best deal in EU.
Yes dictatorship, a self entitled bunch of unelected politicians who want to form a european superstate and take away sovereignty from every country within that state whilst flooding it with economic migrants, and creating new laws everyday, it was supposed to be a trade union way back when the EU was formed, funny Germany tried to take over Europe on 2 previous occasions by force and failed, now the blind people of Europe are practically handing it over to them.

As for Boris, he won't be in there for long and if he doesnt deliver then expect a major shift at the next general election
 

sdifox

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Yes dictatorship, a self entitled bunch of unelected politicians who want to form a european superstate and take away sovereignty from every country within that state whilst flooding it with economic migrants, and creating new laws everyday, it was supposed to be a trade union way back when the EU was formed, funny Germany tried to take over Europe on 2 previous occasions by force and failed, now the blind people of Europe are practically handing it over to them.

As for Boris, he won't be in there for long and if he doesnt deliver then expect a major shift at the next general election


Lol apparently you don't know what you are talking about
 
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Viper1j

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Germany compares Trump to Hitler, and they should know better than any of us..

They've "been there, done that.."
 

sdifox

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enlighten me, please.... oh no you wont, do you even live in the uk/eu?


EU Parliament - elected every 5 years
EU council - Heads of states, elected within each member state.
Council of Ministers - elected within each member state.


Which of those are un-elected?
 

ubern00b

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https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/07/16/europes-unelected-leader/
https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/07/03/this-is-what-eu-democracy-looks-like/
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/716320/european-commission-what-does-do-job-eu
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ma...ENQU7W97jxkAdlq7gQLPOBXLpwHR-943nkh8l4vCEEKUF

Educate yourself, self entitled trump hating yank no doubt, sort your own shower out before trying to preach to me

Germany compares Trump to Hitler, and they should know better than any of us..

They've "been there, done that.."

Not just been there and done it, still there and still doing it.
 

zinfamous

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Yes dictatorship, a self entitled bunch of unelected politicians who want to form a european superstate and take away sovereignty from every country within that state whilst flooding it with economic migrants, and creating new laws everyday, it was supposed to be a trade union way back when the EU was formed, funny Germany tried to take over Europe on 2 previous occasions by force and failed, now the blind people of Europe are practically handing it over to them.

As for Boris, he won't be in there for long and if he doesnt deliver then expect a major shift at the next general election

jesus fucking christ.

you're what, 20-some years old? I guess you know nothing of the generations of your part of the world endlessly slaughtering each other for. ok well, a couple thousand years.

You sound like a goddamn ignorant anti-vaxxer that knows dick-all about the shittiness of the world before you, and has absolutely zero appreciation of how much better it is because of that and the outright privilege that you have today, on the blood and guts of those before you.

Gorw up, pimply dickhole.
 

UNCjigga

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Our Senator Thom Tillis has the gall to praise Trump even after the Greenville chants became public. What’s this going to cost our state now? German businesses have extensive operations in NC in multiple sectors (crop sciences, pharma, automotive, industrial mfg.)

I hope we don’t lose out on more jobs.

Bathroom bill costs us $3.76 billion
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/27/bathroom-bill-to-cost-north-carolina-376-billion.html

Apple faces LGBTQ backlash for considering North Carolina for expansion
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article211438139.html
[note both Apple and Amazon ultimately went elsewhere]
 
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ubern00b

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jesus fucking christ.

you're what, 20-some years old? I guess you know nothing of the generations of your part of the world endlessly slaughtering each other for. ok well, a couple thousand years.

You sound like a goddamn ignorant anti-vaxxer that knows dick-all about the shittiness of the world before you, and has absolutely zero appreciation of how much better it is because of that and the outright privilege that you have today, on the blood and guts of those before you.

Gorw up, pimply dickhole.
ok dickface, if I can use your first name? I'm nearly 40, I grew up in Belfast during the height of the troubles, my dad was in the UK army and stationed there, I have seen more than you can imagine, I have lived a large part of my life in England in a City that has an equal population of immigrant muslims than it has any other religions where there have been race riots and hate crimes commited on a daily basis and where some parts fo the locality are "no-go zones" for police or any other faiths, colours etc, but please carry on being a KB warrior with your oh so elequant use of the English language whilst trying to make it sound like you have a triple digit IQ...
 

ubern00b

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If any conservatives want to know what many German people were doing just before WWII, it was the same thing that they're doing right now.
Careful, Trump hatin' yanks who know more about the EU than people who live there are circling to tear you a new proverbial Ahole.
 

Jhhnn

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I'm still trying to figure out how Muslims in the UK have anything to do with EU membership. They're mostly descendants & relatives of Pakistanis & other south asians who migrated to the UK long before the EU even existed.

Not to mention it's not really very smart to blame the Muslims or the EU for what UK capitalists have done to parts of the country-

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...e-far-right-economic-inequality-a8588226.html
 
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brycejones

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That's rich considering how German's and other Europeans think of us in the UK just for wanting out of the dictatorship that is the EUSSR, people in glass houses and all that
You are going to be so fucked with your Boris the boob as your PM.
 

Jaskalas

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I'm still trying to figure out how Muslims in the UK have anything to do with EU membership. They're mostly descendants & relatives of Pakistanis & other south asians who migrated to the UK long before the EU even existed.

Not to mention it's not really very smart to blame the Muslims or the EU for what UK capitalists have done to parts of the country-

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...e-far-right-economic-inequality-a8588226.html

Seems pretty clear to me that they want control over their immigration policy, most likely to reduce it.
 

brycejones

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ok dickface, if I can use your first name? I'm nearly 40, I grew up in Belfast during the height of the troubles, my dad was in the UK army and stationed there, I have seen more than you can imagine, I have lived a large part of my life in England in a City that has an equal population of immigrant muslims than it has any other religions where there have been race riots and hate crimes commited on a daily basis and where some parts fo the locality are "no-go zones" for police or any other faiths, colours etc, but please carry on being a KB warrior with your oh so elequant use of the English language whilst trying to make it sound like you have a triple digit IQ...

In what city are these supposed no go zones? I live in a city in Michigan that supposedly has no go zones according to threads that have been posted in the past and it’s complete bull shit.
 
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brycejones

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Seems pretty clear to me that they want control over their immigration policy, most likely to reduce it.
You do realize the leave campaign was a combination of racist dog whistles and out right lies about how the EU actually works right?
 

Jhhnn

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Seems pretty clear to me that they want control over their immigration policy, most likely to reduce it.

UK Muslims won't be going away regardless of Brexit. Meanwhile, Brexiteers are likely to take it further up the ass from Tory austerity should it actually occur. It's the UK version of Freedumb.
 
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