How do you know it was a noob though? Granted he was only 25, but some kids start riding at 6 years of age (motocross). By the time they're in their teens, they can usually handle a bigger bike. So, perhaps this wasn't a noob, but rather, was someone who overestimated their skills - only a slight overestimation can lead to death.
Look at this video here from liveleak. Your buddy was probably driving the same way. I hope the poor guy in the video makes it, he is in terrible pain.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d92_1422724643
Inexperience young men and motorcycles are a recipe for disaster.
How and where can people get training?
Failing to negotiate a curve is the first clue and then braking in the middle of the curve to correct for to fast an entry speed is the second. Single vehicle accidents like this are almost always the rider's fault. This accident was entirely preventable.
Good point - I don't ride, so I wouldn't be able to determine if the errors were blatant noob errors, vs. young guy with a little too much testosterone for his own good. I know a couple young guys who ride who are in the latter category and hope they never meet the same fate due to a penchant for living on the edge. I guess I should have taken your word for it that they were noob errors.Failing to negotiate a curve is the first clue and then braking in the middle of the curve to correct for to fast an entry speed is the second. Single vehicle accidents like this are almost always the rider's fault. This accident was entirely preventable.
How do you know it was a noob though? Granted he was only 25, but some kids start riding at 6 years of age (motocross). By the time they're in their teens, they can usually handle a bigger bike. So, perhaps this wasn't a noob, but rather, was someone who overestimated their skills - only a slight overestimation can lead to death.
Motorcyclists may be their own worst enemy on the road.
Insurer Progressive Corp. found that single-vehicle mishaps accounted for more motorcycle-related claims last year than any other event, the company said in a report this week. Mayfield Village, Ohio-based Progressive said it processed 3.5 times more of such claims than for rear-end crashes, the next-most common motorcycle incident.
“Excess speed is the most common rider-related factor in fatal motorcycle accidents,” Steve Carapia, a California Highway Patrol public information officer, said in a phone interview. Motorcyclists who drive too fast can’t identify and react to obstacles in the road, he said.
“They don’t give themselves enough time to maneuver around the object,” Carapia said. “Due to their speed, it’s hard to negotiate that hazard.”
Motorcyclists made up 14 percent of all vehicle-related fatalities in 2013, up from about 9 percent in 2004, according to National Highway Traffic Safety Administration data. In 2013, more than 32,000 people were killed and 2.3 million injured in U.S. motor-vehicle crashes.
California had the biggest share of motorcycles on the road in 2012, with more than 780,000 registered in the country’s most populous state, according to Federal Highway Administration data.
“Progressive saw the most motorcycle claims from single vehicle accidents — far more than rear-end, intersection, and stolen bikes combined,” Scott Hall, motorcycle product manager at the insurer, said in the report.
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motorcycles are too dangerous, there is no point in having one
Riding a motorbike is like purposely surfing in shark-infested waters. You can control what you do, but you can't control what everyone else around you does. And then you complain about it.
This is one of the reasons I'm glad my first street bike was a Yamaha 175 enduro when I was 16. When I upgraded to a used Kawasaki KZ1000 ex-cop bike a few years later I had enough experience to not kill myself on it, though I had my share of close calls.
Nothing beats experience and a healthy respect for what exceeding your skill level leads to.
Correct. I drive a lot and see how other people drive. No fucking way I'm trusting those selfish idiots with my life, especially when they're not going to die when they run me over. I'll stick with seatbelt, crumple zones, and not flipping over from a minor mistake, thanks.
When I changed jobs and had to do a lot more driving for work is when I sold my last street bike. The more time you spend on the road the more inescapable the conclusion that the majority of drivers are dangerous animals that don't belong anywhere near the controls of a car. If you venture onto public streets on a motorcycle you're an organ donor statistic waiting to happen.
In today's news:
MOST MOTORCYCLE CRASHES ARE SOLO INCIDENTS
By U-T San Diego5:08 a.m.Jan. 31, 2015
Motorcyclists may be their own worst enemy on the road.
Insurer Progressive Corp. found that single-vehicle mishaps accounted for more motorcycle-related claims last year than any other event, the company said in a report this week. Mayfield Village, Ohio-based Progressive said it processed 3.5 times more of such claims than for rear-end crashes, the next-most common motorcycle incident.
“Excess speed is the most common rider-related factor in fatal motorcycle accidents,” Steve Carapia, a California Highway Patrol public information officer, said in a phone interview. Motorcyclists who drive too fast can’t identify and react to obstacles in the road, he said.
“They don’t give themselves enough time to maneuver around the object,” Carapia said. “Due to their speed, it’s hard to negotiate that hazard.”
Motorcyclists made up 14 percent of all vehicle-related fatalities in 2013, up from about 9 percent in 2004, according to National Highway Traffic Safety Administration data. In 2013, more than 32,000 people were killed and 2.3 million injured in U.S. motor-vehicle crashes.
California had the biggest share of motorcycles on the road in 2012, with more than 780,000 registered in the country’s most populous state, according to Federal Highway Administration data.
“Progressive saw the most motorcycle claims from single vehicle accidents — far more than rear-end, intersection, and stolen bikes combined,” Scott Hall, motorcycle product manager at the insurer, said in the report.
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To be fair to motorcyclists, sometimes it's better to lay a bikes down rather than collide with a vehicle in your path. I would guess those types of crashes are considered solo vehicle accidents because the other vehicle didn't get hit, or just continued on their way not realizing they just ran someone off the road.
It's happened to me once and my father at least twice. It was my only motorcycle accident ever, and it was a woman who pulled an illegal U-turn right into my path. Rather than hit her car and fly off the bike, I swerved and laid the bike down.
I was pissed at myself for not paying better attention because cagers always do stupid stuff like that and a smart rider stays alert for it. At least I only sprained an ankle and lost some skin off my knee through my jeans.
When she stopped to help me I recognized her as a teacher from my former high school. She had been drinking a bit and was driving a beautifully restored red 1966 Mustang. She was having an argument with her boyfriend at the time on the side of the road. He jumped out of the car and started walking, so in anger she swung a huge u-turn across all lanes and sped off, right into my path.
/cool story bro
exactly
I have had 2 accidents. one was my fault. i was young and going to fast on wet pavement. i slid on a turn. Thanks to my leathers i was ok but my bike wasn't. it was a good lesson.
the 2nd was some assfuck turning without seeing me and i ran off the road. Only good part was he idiot did it right in front of a cop.
The 94 is technically a highway with a 55mph speed limit but many of the curves are labeled 35mph. Plus, there are a lot of dirt roads and driveways that come out on the 94 so you get dust and dirt on the roadway and many blind corners with the potential for a car to be crossing your path just as you're accelerating out of a corner.