"We know he's a fraud, but we're voting for him anyway."

Charles Kozierok

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New CBS/NYT poll has Obama up by 1 nationally, 48-47.

Asked if the candidate says what he believes or what people want to hear, Obama scores 50/47, while Romney scores 42/54.

So... a bunch of people know Romney is lying, but they're supporting him anyway.

This election is making me want to throw up.
 

bfdd

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Romney and Obama are both fucking liars. Why does it only matter that the challenger lies, yet the standing President gets a pass? How about we as Americans give both of the liars the middle finger and elect someone else? Oh that's right because you guys are to busy playing with your assholes.
 

DaveSimmons

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These people feel that at least Romney is a Republican, and they think that party will do more for them or will do less harm than another term for Obama.

There's a lot of FUD that the credulous have accepted in deciding that Romney is still the lesser evil:

- Muslim from Kenya
- Fascist Communist
- Taking away your guns, fishing poles and table salt
- Making you get insurance when the emergency room is free
- Putting Big Government hands all over your Medicare
- Death panels!
- Jerbs killer
- Giving extra new welfare to minorities
- Raising taxes
- Being a Post Turtle
...
 

bfdd

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http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/30/drone-war-double-think

derp a der Romney is absolutely the lesser evil. Why? Because he hasn't been running a kill list and blowing up fuckers with drones. We can probably agree that Romney would keep up the non-sense, but the fact remains he has not killed a bunch of civilians in a country we're not even supposed to be operating in. Nor has he illegally gone to war with Libya, yes Obama illegally went to war with Libya in the same vein Bush started his. Absolutely ridiculous you fools would argue over this non-sense, but then again you're fools because you keep playing this stupid fucking game.

Grow up and open your eyes, the world is far bigger than the one presented to you by the Republicans and Democrats.
 

Smoblikat

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New CBS/NYT poll has Obama up by 1 nationally, 48-47.

Asked if the candidate says what he believes or what people want to hear, Obama scores 50/47, while Romney scores 42/54.

So... a bunch of people know Romney is lying, but they're supporting him anyway.

This election is making me want to throw up.

That Romney stat is a load of shit............it should be 1/95. And the one is some deaf guy.
 

Vic Vega

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Romney and Obama are both fucking liars. Why does it only matter that the challenger lies, yet the standing President gets a pass? How about we as Americans give both of the liars the middle finger and elect someone else? Oh that's right because you guys are to busy playing with your assholes.

Partisan hacks on both sides give their guy a pass. It's sickening.
 

Jhhnn

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http://reason.com/archives/2012/10/30/drone-war-double-think

derp a der Romney is absolutely the lesser evil. Why? Because he hasn't been running a kill list and blowing up fuckers with drones. We can probably agree that Romney would keep up the non-sense, but the fact remains he has not killed a bunch of civilians in a country we're not even supposed to be operating in. Nor has he illegally gone to war with Libya, yes Obama illegally went to war with Libya in the same vein Bush started his. Absolutely ridiculous you fools would argue over this non-sense, but then again you're fools because you keep playing this stupid fucking game.

Grow up and open your eyes, the world is far bigger than the one presented to you by the Republicans and Democrats.

Grow up yourself. You're equating our involvement in Libya to the invasion of Iraq? Really?

How desperate are you, anyway?
 

Vic Vega

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Grow up yourself. You're equating our involvement in Libya to the invasion of Iraq? Really?

How desperate are you, anyway?

Another example of "My guy did it, so it's OK. My guy gets a pass for bombing brown countries, because when my guy does it, it really really needed to be done".

You're a cancer.
 

Charles Kozierok

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It's not about who's better or worse. It's about so many people being willing to vote for someone whom they admit is lying to them.
 

HomerJS

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Romney and Obama are both fucking liars. Why does it only matter that the challenger lies, yet the standing President gets a pass? How about we as Americans give both of the liars the middle finger and elect someone else? Oh that's right because you guys are to busy playing with your assholes.

False equivelance. That's the only defense for Romney. Remember a lie is telling a know falsehood about something current or has already happened. Or a promise for something you have no intention of keeping.

Romney seems to lie about everything. How many times does he say something to a group only to have his people walk it back within 30 min?

The latest lie is the ad claiming because of Obama Jeep is moving jobs to China. Jeep themselves stated this is a lie yet the Romney team is running it in an ad.
 

DaveSimmons

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It's not about who's better or worse. It's about so many people being willing to vote for someone whom they admit is lying to them.

But people can point to all of the campaign promises that Obama went back on. Some were out of his control, some were not.

At least with Romney there are no real promises from him besides tax cuts for the rich, so there's nothing for him to break.
 

bfdd

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False equivelance. That's the only defense for Romney. Remember a lie is telling a know falsehood about something current or has already happened. Or a promise for something you have no intention of keeping.

Romney seems to lie about everything. How many times does he say something to a group only to have his people walk it back within 30 min?

The latest lie is the ad claiming because of Obama Jeep is moving jobs to China. Jeep themselves stated this is a lie yet the Romney team is running it in an ad.

I don't support Romney, I have said Romney was a snake forever. Him lying doesn't really effect me because it's a character trait of his that I have been well aware of for some time. Why would I continually state the obvious when I can point out the not so obvious? They are both fucking liars, Obama lies just as much, he just gets a pass. Derp a der
 

Fern

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What is the point of voting for a guy who is sincere in his positions if you absolutely disagree with those positions?

Fern
 

Charles Kozierok

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But people can point to all of the campaign promises that Obama went back on. Some were out of his control, some were not.

Do you think there's a difference between not following through on a promise, and going back and forth about basic beliefs and principles depending on whom you're talking to?

I do.
 

Moonbeam

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Mitt Romney is a lying piece of human garbage. His lies are pathological and blatant in nature. He lies right in your face. He is lying about Jeep and he is lying about abortion. He wants to win the election and he is lying to do it. His lying is so off the wall it is epic. It will be a profound embarrassment to honest people if this lying sack of shit is elected. It will indicate that most of the population is imbecilic and lying scum themselves who are only too happy to lie to themselves. I can't express enough my utter contempt for such people. You can vote for Romney only if you are a God Damned worthless piece of shit yourself.
 

nehalem256

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Do you think there's a difference between not following through on a promise, and going back and forth about basic beliefs and principles depending on whom you're talking to?

I do.

You mean like how it took Obama 3.5 years of his presidency to decide what marriage meant?

Oh wait. The left basically threw him a parade for that.
 

Moonbeam

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Do you think there's a difference between not following through on a promise, and going back and forth about basic beliefs and principles depending on whom you're talking to?

I do.

There is a huge difference. It is all the difference in the world. But there are millions of Americans who are so lost, so lacking in character, so consumed by self hate that they can't see it. They would rather lie to themselves that they support utter worthless scum, that see that is what they are doing. This is the way of the lying self deluded moral cowards among us, so fucking fat headed full of their egotistical certainty that they would rather lie and vote for liars than fact how wrong they are. They are going to vote for the top pig who won at their pig convention.
 

superccs

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These people feel that at least Romney is a Republican, and they think that party will do more for them or will do less harm than another term for Obama.

There's a lot of FUD that the credulous have accepted in deciding that Romney is still the lesser evil:

- Muslim from Kenya
- Fascist Communist
- Taking away your guns, fishing poles and table salt
- Making you get insurance when the emergency room is free
- Putting Big Government hands all over your Medicare
- Death panels!
- Jerbs killer
- Giving extra new welfare to minorities
- Raising taxes
- Being a Post Turtle
...

What in the WTF?
 

DaveSimmons

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Aug 12, 2001
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What in the WTF?

People have posted serious threads here about Obama being / doing all of the above, including being about to take away our fishin' poles and salt.

If you believe those things about Obama, then Romney flip-flops seem harmless by comparison and he's the lesser evil.
 

thraashman

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Why is Obama the only other option?

Because the closest third option is a guy whose economic views are so bad they'd almost guaranteed cause the biggest depression in American history. Granted, Romney will likely just fuck over the poor (well, anyone not rich) and probably start a reckless war with Iran (or at his rate China or Russia), but he won't damn near guaranteed fuck the entire economy.

You mean like how it took Obama 3.5 years of his presidency to decide what marriage meant?

Oh wait. The left basically threw him a parade for that.

Oh look, it's nehalem! He's brought up the gays, now lets see how long before he says something misogynistic ... it's really only a matter of time!
 

cwjerome

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It's not about who's better or worse. It's about so many people being willing to vote for someone whom they admit is lying to them.

Pretty much a damning indictment of Obama that speaks to people's belief that a guy that will flip flop to get elected is a better choice than a more honest incompetent?
 
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