Originally posted by: mooseracing
Originally posted by: BUTCH1
Originally posted by: TheEarthWillShake
That's what makes America so great. You can drive a huge gas guzzling SUV to work by yourself 50 miles away. It's called FREEDOM!!!
At least for now. The upcoming CAFE standards will
change a lot, also the fact that large trucks and SUV'S are selling so poorly that auto makers are re-tooling plants to
make sedans again..
CAFE is a joke. Trucks are suppose to get around 23mpg now, about the only ones doing that are the Diesels. They are as bad as the EPA MPG.
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: TerryMathews
As someone who's lived in Ohio their entire life, which has relatively temperate winters except for 2-3 days of blizzard:
SUVs are an investment for the days that you will need them. Of course, this isn't true everywhere in the country, but for me its a necessity. It's short-sighted and irresponsible to bet that I can just stay in those three days. Any number of things could happen (and have happened) that would require me to go out irregardless of the weather conditions.
You don't need an SUV for winter driving. I grew up in upstate NY and my first car was a SAAB 99LE with a 2.0L 4 cylinder engine. There is no better car in the snow that that car IMO. It is simply brilliant. Put snow tires on it and it's even better. You're high on fucking crack if you believe that you need a 4WD SUV to get you through the white stuff.
Originally posted by: hpkeeper
You gain gas milage and sacrifice size. I get size and "safety" (in your opinion) and sacrifice milage. As I said, I've never rolled any SUV or truck i've owned... doesn't mean it won't happen, but again roll over rates aren't directly proportional to death rates in a roll over crash. I take my risks with roll over rates, just like you do with getting a bumper through your driver side window.... but then again I'm not whinning about how my vehicles safety is affected by the vehicles around me, if anything I'm gloating about it.
Get over it.
Originally posted by: Pariah
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
For those of you complaining about SUVs being "unsafe" for the rest of you, think of it this way. If everyone had these little lunchbox cars, there would still be larger vehicles around for hauling stuff. I somehow doubt the semi will go away any time soon, it only is the primary means of goods transportation after all. So you could still even more easily now get flattened by one of those.
And if you worry you'll get flattened by an SUV, you worry too much.
No, I'm not an SUV owner. I frankly don't like them all that much personally. But I support upholding the right of a person to drive one if he so desires.
If you were stuck in a cage with a lion and a tiger, would you complain if one of them got removed? Sure, being stuck with the remaining one would suck, but you'd still be better off than having to deal with both. I'd also argue that the average semi driver is a better driver than the average SUV driver for a multitude of reason.
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: hpkeeper
You gain gas milage and sacrifice size. I get size and "safety" (in your opinion) and sacrifice milage. As I said, I've never rolled any SUV or truck i've owned... doesn't mean it won't happen, but again roll over rates aren't directly proportional to death rates in a roll over crash. I take my risks with roll over rates, just like you do with getting a bumper through your driver side window.... but then again I'm not whinning about how my vehicles safety is affected by the vehicles around me, if anything I'm gloating about it.
Get over it.
You still fail to understand that my vehicle purchase does not impact your rollover probability, while your vehicle purchase does impact the chances of me getting a bumper through my window? Your vehicle choices negatively impact others' safety, mine don't.