We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.

[BlancoNino]

How come this right doesn't exist anymore? I just took my liquor pouring class to get my license, and the teacher said that every single time (in Washington State) an employee refused to serve a pregnant woman alcohol and went to court about it, the pregnant lady has won.

I could personally never serve an obviously pregnant lady alcohol.

 

[KarenMarie]

Wish it was still that way.

but in today's society... you are not allowed to have any freedom of thought or opinion. Just be a good little sheeple and follow along.

 

[Ayah]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Wish it was still that way.

but in today's society... you are not allowed to have any freedom of thought or opinion. Just be a good little sheeple and follow along.

Baaaahh

 

[Shawn]

poor kid

 

[Zugzwang152]

It's not your decision on messing up life for the child.

Besides, what have you really done except make her go out of the way to go to the liquor store herself? Be nice and get a nice tip.

 

[djheater]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
How come this right doesn't exist anymore? I just took my liquor pouring class to get my license, and the teacher said that every single time (in Washington State) an employee refused to serve a pregnant woman alcohol and went to court about it, the pregnant lady has won.

I could personally never serve an obviously pregnant lady alcohol.

I'm not a doctor, but I am a father, and I know my wife would have the occasional partial glass of wine with dinner when pregnant. I also know that for generations beer and wine were considered safer than water to drink....
For most people alcohol in extreme moderation will not injure their pregnancy, but again, I'm no doctor.

 

[soydios]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I could personally never serve an obviously pregnant lady alcohol.

I would draw the line right there as well.
Somebody has to be the defendant that overturns precedent.

 

[Amplifier]

just refuse to serve them

 

[AznAnarchy99]

In health class, my teacher showed a video that the bartender was blamed for serving a overly drunk customer more alcohol. It was a 60 minutes epidsode. The drunk left, got into a car, and hit another car with 6 people in it, killing everyone.

 

[doze]

Who would sue over being refused alcohol? This is the kind of crap that wastes our tax money.

 

[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
How come this right doesn't exist anymore? I just took my liquor pouring class to get my license, and the teacher said that every single time (in Washington State) an employee refused to serve a pregnant woman alcohol and went to court about it, the pregnant lady has won.

I could personally never serve an obviously pregnant lady alcohol.

I'm not a doctor, but I am a father, and I know my wife would have the occasional partial glass of wine with dinner when pregnant. I also know that for generations beer and wine were considered safer than water to drink....
For most people alcohol in extreme moderation will not injure their pregnancy, but again, I'm no doctor.

You are actually probably right. But at the same token, I still couldn't live with myself wondering if that baby did turn out to have problems. I know it's not my decision, but I'd rather not have any part of it, and the underlying problem still exists: We DON'T have the right to refuse service, and that is bullsh*t.

 

[KarenMarie]

Here is the thing...

if you DONT serve a pregnant woman ... she will sue for discrimination.

if you DO serve a pregnant woman and something goes wrong with the baby... she will sue for serving her.

 

[The Batt?sai]

Originally posted by: Ayah

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Wish it was still that way.

but in today's society... you are not allowed to have any freedom of thought or opinion. Just be a good little sheeple and follow along.

Baaaahh

Farmer John reporting .

 

[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
In health class, my teacher showed a video that the bartender was blamed for serving a overly drunk customer more alcohol. It was a 60 minutes epidsode. The drunk left, got into a car, and hit another car with 6 people in it, killing everyone.

Yup, that's the kind of society we live in. Maybe if our DUI laws weren't so fascist, the cops would be out looking for the REAL drunk drivers that are seriously drunk and in danger of killing somebody instead of social drinkers who have had a few beers. Thank you MADD for making our roads less safe.

 

[djheater]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
How come this right doesn't exist anymore? I just took my liquor pouring class to get my license, and the teacher said that every single time (in Washington State) an employee refused to serve a pregnant woman alcohol and went to court about it, the pregnant lady has won.

I could personally never serve an obviously pregnant lady alcohol.

I'm not a doctor, but I am a father, and I know my wife would have the occasional partial glass of wine with dinner when pregnant. I also know that for generations beer and wine were considered safer than water to drink....
For most people alcohol in extreme moderation will not injure their pregnancy, but again, I'm no doctor.

You are actually probably right. But at the same token, I still couldn't live with myself wondering if that baby did turn out to have problems. I know it's not my decision, but I'd rather not have any part of it, and the underlying problem still exists: We DON'T have the right to refuse service, and that is bullsh*t.

What I find unfortunate is your lack of trust in your fellow man (or woman) to do what's best for themselves, their child and you. I can't say I blam you, but it's still unfortunate.

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Here is the thing...

if you DONT serve a pregnant woman ... she will sue for discrimination.

if you DO serve a pregnant woman and something goes wrong with the baby... she will sue for serving her.

Can she win for being served though? It's like buying cigarettes at a store, if she is pregnant but wants to buy them, they can't deny her.

 

[doze]

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
In health class, my teacher showed a video that the bartender was blamed for serving a overly drunk customer more alcohol. It was a 60 minutes epidsode. The drunk left, got into a car, and hit another car with 6 people in it, killing everyone.

Any responsible bartender will cut you off or make sure you have alternate transportation if your starting to get drunk. I used to go drink at the same bar all the time after work and if I was starting to get drunk the bartender made sure I would get a ride home or call a cab. As long as my way home was not behind the wheel I was welcome to get sloshed at the bar.

 

[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Here is the thing...

if you DONT serve a pregnant woman ... she will sue for discrimination.

if you DO serve a pregnant woman and something goes wrong with the baby... she will sue for serving her.

It said in our little handbook that we got that it might be possible for a lady to sue a business for serving her alcohol while pregnant and having a baby with FAS or something. Contradictory laws FTL.

 

[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: djheater
What I find unfortunate is your lack of trust in your fellow man (or woman) to do what's best for themselves, their child and you. I can't say I blam you, but it's still unfortunate.

No I really do believe people, for the most part, do what's best for themselves. I'm more upset over my rights being infringed on though. I've never been in a situation involving a pregnant lady, so I'm not sure how I'd react.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Originally posted by: doze

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
In health class, my teacher showed a video that the bartender was blamed for serving a overly drunk customer more alcohol. It was a 60 minutes epidsode. The drunk left, got into a car, and hit another car with 6 people in it, killing everyone.

Any responsible bartender will cut you off or make sure you have alternate transportation if your starting to get drunk. I used to go drink at the same bar all the time after work and if I was starting to get drunk the bartender made sure I would get a ride home or call a cab. As long as my way home was not behind the wheel I was welcome to get sloshed at the bar.

yea but what happens when the customer refuses the ride and gets in his car before you can do anything.

 

[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
yea but what happens when the customer refuses the ride and gets in his car before you can do anything.

Then the bartender gets screwed because everyone knows that the bar isn't there to make profit, it's there to babysit everyone. /sarcasm.

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Here is the thing...

if you DONT serve a pregnant woman ... she will sue for discrimination.

if you DO serve a pregnant woman and something goes wrong with the baby... she will sue for serving her.

It said in our little handbook that we got that it might be possible for a lady to sue a business for serving her alcohol while pregnant and having a baby with FAS or something. Contradictory laws FTL.

Don't converse with your patrons about if they're pregnant or not. Assume they're just fatties. Really strangely shaped fatties. You cannot be held responsible for that which you did not know (as easily, anyway. Not handing every patron a questionnaire about their complete medical situation could be viewed as negligence by a really stupid judge, but heh)

 

[DrPizza]

for what it's worth, it's the 1st trimester when alcohol affects the baby's development the most. And, 1st trimester mothers aren't "obviously" pregnant. (not that they should be drinking, but a single social drink during the 3rd trimester is not going to harm the baby)

 

[EyeMWing]

Oh, and you still have the right to refuse service to anyone (who is a white christian or atheist male of normal height and weight with no piercings or tattoos wearing plain non-descript clothing with no underlying emotional, mental, or physical conditions that may or may not be known)

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
How come this right doesn't exist anymore? I just took my liquor pouring class to get my license, and the teacher said that every single time (in Washington State) an employee refused to serve a pregnant woman alcohol and went to court about it, the pregnant lady has won.

I could personally never serve an obviously pregnant lady alcohol.

It doesn't necessarily mean she is going to drink the alcohol -- that's purely your assumption. Who are you to say whether or not she deserves alcohol in her condition?