Weapons of Mass destruction found.

[Gaard]

After 12/7/41, we can't afford to wait for threats to materialize. After that infamous date, we are justified in attacking those whom we feel will become a threat to us in the future.

Is anyone else getting tired of the 9/11 being used as a justification for this war?

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Gaard
After 12/7/41, we can't afford to wait for threats to materialize. After that infamous date, we are justified in attacking those whom we feel will become a threat to us in the future.

Is anyone else getting tired of the 9/11 being used as a justification for this war?

Yep, starting in about September, 2002. By the (in)famous October speech, I was already thoroughly disgusted with their exploitation of the tragedy for their PNAC agenda.

 

[heartsurgeon]

Sarin gas findings confirmed....

Weapons of Mass Destruction Found

 

[arsbanned]

Nice hysterics there, HS. Too bad they're inaccurate. Sorry, no WMD yet. You can keep hoping though.

 

[conjur]

I was waiting for hs to come out of the operating room long enough to post that meaningless update.

 

[arsbanned]

Yessss. He was ruminatiing on all of this while opening someone's chest. Just think of it. :laugh:

 

[Jhhnn]

From another forum-

http://www.wokr13.tv/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=83E2BD4A-5F1C-4E84-9166-4E3A8E847643

So the whole thing turns out to be the usual disinformational agitprop. Hair-raising accusations- page one headlines. Inevitable qualifiers and retractions- buried in the classifieds. I'll bet there are guys like HS who still believe that the Iraqis had mobile bioweapons labs, with rollup canvas sides...

 

[heartsurgeon]

if i understand you correctly....we now have a NEW requirement for a WMD to be considered an WMD by the Bush-Haters...it has to have been constructed "recently"

so if they found a Nuke that was constructed before 1991..that's not a WMD because it's too old...i understand now!!

give me a freakin break...

4 liters of Sarin gas can kill 7000 people (one artillery shell worth)
that's a WMD

it was used by Iraqi insurgents to attack U.S. troops.

all your other ruminations about how old the WMD was, where the WMD was manufactured..are irrelevant.

your ruminations about the insurgents "not knowing" they had a WMD....well, guess what, they absolutely know NOW that they had a WMD, and I'll guarantee you they're looking for more of them, if they don't aleady have more.

Bush-Haters....blinded by rage..

 

[Jhhnn]

Bushian fanbois- desperate for justification, grasping at straws, representing stray tactical weapons whose effectiveness expired long ago as WMD's-

Not even the Bushies themselves are quite so pathetic.

 

[leeboy]

Yep, funny how the dim light shining-HS has the inside scoop on the WMD's. Keep trying you goofy partisan hack. You make us all laugh with your 3rd grade logic. Pft.

:roll:

 

[heartsurgeon]

U.N. experts find 20 engines used in banned Iraqi missiles in Jordan scrapyards

of course those of you who deny WMD's in Iraq will claim:

20 missile motors, so what?

or

They were in Jordan, so what?

or

They were scrap metal motors..so what?

or maybe just

So what?

Well, they started out as missile motors, in Iraq, to banned Al Samoud 2 missiles. These missiles were made around 1993, and banned by the U.N. in 1994 because they had ranges exceeding 150 kilometers, and were chem/bio warhead capable. These represent WMD components. They were in Iraq. They were very recently sent out of the country.

but i know, nothing but a warehouse full of nukes just about ready to explode will satisy some, if that..

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
U.N. experts find 20 engines used in banned Iraqi missiles in Jordan scrapyards

of course those of you who deny WMD's in Iraq will claim:

20 missile motors, so what?

or

They were in Jordan, so what?

or

They were scrap metal motors..so what?

or maybe just

So what?

Well, they started out as missile motors, in Iraq, to banned Al Samoud 2 missiles. These missiles were made around 1993, and banned by the U.N. in 1994 because they had ranges exceeding 150 kilometers, and were chem/bio warhead capable. These represent WMD components. They were in Iraq. They were very recently sent out of the country.

but i know, nothing but a warehouse full of nukes just about ready to explode will satisy some, if that..

I recall hearing that iraq was swapping the engines in the missles they were destroying with older less capable rocket engines.

 

[wkabel23]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
U.N. experts find 20 engines used in banned Iraqi missiles in Jordan scrapyards

of course those of you who deny WMD's in Iraq will claim:

20 missile motors, so what?

or

They were in Jordan, so what?

or

They were scrap metal motors..so what?

or maybe just

So what?

Well, they started out as missile motors, in Iraq, to banned Al Samoud 2 missiles. These missiles were made around 1993, and banned by the U.N. in 1994 because they had ranges exceeding 150 kilometers, and were chem/bio warhead capable. These represent WMD components. They were in Iraq. They were very recently sent out of the country.

but i know, nothing but a warehouse full of nukes just about ready to explode will satisy some, if that..

In fear that some Iraqi insurgents have more engines I quickly went out and put supplies incase of an attack, mainly 20 rolls of duct tape.

Great we found 20 engines, still not quite the image of "WMDs" GW gave everyone before we invaded. Also I thought Iraq's WMDs posed an imminent threat to the USA? When did engines in Jordan fit that description?

Keep trying.

 

[glenn1]

of course those of you who deny WMD's in Iraq will claim:

20 missile motors, so what?

I don't deny the possiblity of WMD in Iraq and even I'm saying so what. Stop trying to shoehorn anything larger than a crew-served small arms weapon into the category of WMD. To any American who isn't engaging in double-think, Iraqi WMD means NBC-R (old school = Nuclear/Biological/Chemical, new school adds Radiological) and in quantity, not some 20 year old CS grenade in a bunker somewhere.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
U.N. experts find 20 engines used in banned Iraqi missiles in Jordan scrapyards

of course those of you who deny WMD's in Iraq will claim:

20 missile motors, so what?

or

They were in Jordan, so what?

or

They were scrap metal motors..so what?

or maybe just

So what?

Well, they started out as missile motors, in Iraq, to banned Al Samoud 2 missiles. These missiles were made around 1993, and banned by the U.N. in 1994 because they had ranges exceeding 150 kilometers, and were chem/bio warhead capable. These represent WMD components. They were in Iraq. They were very recently sent out of the country.

but i know, nothing but a warehouse full of nukes just about ready to explode will satisy some, if that..

You already lost all dignity- there is no going any lower, even with this drivel

 

[heartsurgeon]

the definition of a WMD already exists. It has been addressed before. i I is any weapon capable of causing mass casualities.

i tried to take a poll to determine what number of casualities would qualify as "mass".

only two people responded with a number

the average was 7,500 casualties.

feel free to provide a number of casualities that you feel qualify a weapon as a WMD.

you do realize that WWII was ended with the use of 2 WMD's....WMD's are not defined by their quanity, but rather their lethality.

Your certainly entitled to have your own "personal" definition of what an WMD.

 

[heartsurgeon]

You already lost all dignity- there is no going any lower, even with this drivel

Mods? Is this a personal flame? ruling please?

 

[dmcowen674]

So these "Scrap" motors are what were going to invade England in 45 minutes??? :roll:

 

[heartsurgeon]

So these "Scrap" motors are what were going to invade England in 45 minutes???

Well, not anymore!

 

[glenn1]

Well, they started out as missile motors, in Iraq, to banned Al Samoud 2 missiles. These missiles were made around 1993, and banned by the U.N. in 1994 because they had ranges exceeding 150 kilometers, and were chem/bio warhead capable. These represent WMD components. They were in Iraq. They were very recently sent out of the country.

By your reasoning, the screws which fasten the motors in their missiles would be considered WMD components as well. Please don't post "we found WMD!" again unless it's the part which actually goes boom.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: glenn1

Well, they started out as missile motors, in Iraq, to banned Al Samoud 2 missiles. These missiles were made around 1993, and banned by the U.N. in 1994 because they had ranges exceeding 150 kilometers, and were chem/bio warhead capable. These represent WMD components. They were in Iraq. They were very recently sent out of the country.

By your reasoning, the screws which fasten the motors in their missiles would be considered WMD components as well. Please don't post "we found WMD!" again unless it's the part which actually goes boom.

I dont consider them WMD, but iraq was not supposed to have them and they were not declared to the UN. That is the real issue with these.

 

[Ozoned]

HS,

"Bush lied, there are no wmd". That is the only arguement the *not conservatives* have.

Just as with a baby and a security blanket, you must let them give it up, rather than take it from them.

 

[heartsurgeon]

U.N. weapons experts have found 20 engines used in banned Iraqi missiles in a Jordan scrapyard along with other equipment which could be used to make weapons of mass destruction, an official said Wednesday.

i didn't write the article, i'm just providing the link.
but i appreciate your suggestion..

 

[SuperTool]

Missile engines are not a WMD.

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Missile engines are not a WMD.

Missile engines were not all that was found.

Read the article.