Weed overdoses turn deadly in Colorado.

[Phoenix86]

There is no LD50 for Benzos, LSD or Peyote either, you'll have to die by having a truckload of ti falling on your head. That means absolutely nothing.

For anyone who is not a paranoid schizophrenic it can trigger episodes, in most people that use it it triggers psychotic episodes at some point. It's noteworthy that such psychotic episodes include actually killing random people because of the episodes.

THC isn't easy on the brain either, it's associated with learning problems and memory incoherence problems in ALL users, it's also associated with stunted growth (seems to inhibit GH release), impotence (seems to inhibit testostrone production) and diabetes type 2 (it messes with thyroid function).

It's pretty much a bad thing if you smoke a lot, and by a lot i mean more than a couple of joints a day two days a week.

That's great, you threw away a medical standard that's been in place for almost a 100 years with that LD50 doesn't mean shit statement.

However, it is important to note that people with underlying conditions can be affected. Of course, the root cause isn't the THC, it's the underlying cause. Gonna ask for a source on this.

THC on developing brains seems to be a good point, adolescents shoudln't use it. Is anyone really advocating this? Certainly not me. I'm curious on the thyroid information.

In general the Greeks had it right. Everything in moderation.

 

[Phoenix86]

Alcohol has a more stable course of action, it makes everyone stupid but rarely triggers any event such as these.

This statement is pretty much 100% bullshit. Alcohol doesn't trigger anger? You're one step away from troll status with that one.

 

[Phoenix86]

This is obviously a bit inflammatory but fairly accurate.

 

[DaveSimmons]

6 pages and counting, with so many bites. Congrats on the trolling of the year Felix

 

[FelixDeCat]

This is obviously a bit inflammatory but fairly accurate.

If it were not such a sad story, it might almost be funny...but its not. Weed is a dangerous drug and can drive people insane. We must stop the stupidity and madness before it spreads beyond the hippie states.

6 pages and counting, with so many bites. Congrats on the trolling of the year Felix

Im just raising awareness and adding my voice to the growing chorus of people opposed to legalization efforts. Im afraid that lazy, loafing potheads are on the move right now and must be stopped in their tracks before they can do more damage to our fine society.

 

[DaveSimmons]

You should tackle the evils of Dihydrogen Monoxide next, it kills even more people than weed!

 

[MasterOfUsers]

That's great, you threw away a medical standard that's been in place for almost a 100 years with that LD50 doesn't mean shit statement.

However, it is important to note that people with underlying conditions can be affected. Of course, the root cause isn't the THC, it's the underlying cause. Gonna ask for a source on this.

THC on developing brains seems to be a good point, adolescents shoudln't use it. Is anyone really advocating this? Certainly not me. I'm curious on the thyroid information.

In general the Greeks had it right. Everything in moderation.

No, the THC would be the difference between a normal day or a psychotic episode in that case, you can't excuse it just because you developed a dependence for it.

Oh and yeah, it's addictive. I'm sorry but it is, you'll find users defending it despite findings that it's actually harmful for learning and that the effects are accentuated the longer you use it...

People who can give it up any time they want to... amirite?

 

[MasterOfUsers]

This statement is pretty much 100% bullshit. Alcohol doesn't trigger anger? You're one step away from troll status with that one.

Sure it does but it rarely triggers psychotic episodes... Lemme guess, you have no idea what so ever what that means?

 

[MasterOfUsers]

You should tackle the evils of Dihydrogen Monoxide next, it kills even more people than weed!

It kills more people than ingesting sulfuric acid too.

So by your retarded train of thought you should ingest sulfuric acid before you drink water?

YAY, you get the THC award for having smoked your brain into shreds.

It is a bucket of my piss but i'll tell you it is champagne and knowing no better you will surely drink it.

 

[DaveSimmons]

It kills more people than ingesting sulfuric acid too.

So by your retarded train of thought you should ingest sulfuric acid before you drink water?

YAY, you get the THC award for having smoked your brain into shreds.

It is a bucket of my piss but i'll tell you it is champagne and knowing no better you will surely drink it.

Nice try, but the only recreational drugs I use are caffeine and chocolate.

I do think that prohibition is a waste of resources and lives that does much more harm than weed ever has. But keep supporting the black market, the cartels appreciate your efforts.

 

[hans030390]

You don't hallucinate on weed. Fact not fiction.

Oh, but you can if you have enough, especially as a newbie. Just perhaps not in ways you'd expect, but that's true of most hallucinogenics, I think.

With edibles, it is. Too much and you're completely out of control. With smoking/vaping, the effects are close to immediate, so you can easily stop before you get TOO high.

The problem is when you get noobs who've never even smoked weed having access to really potent edibles, like this African exchange student. An experienced weed user would have waited before eating more, and even then would have probably just ridden out high.

Panic attacks on weed are a real thing, mang. Give a noob WAY too much edibles and you can have a big problem.

This. If you're going to use it, don't be stupid about it. You might not outright die from having "too much," but you might go a bit crazy and potentially do something stupid. Alcohol is similar to this in many ways, but arguably more risky. I could also see using too much being risky if you have known heart problems, but that's just my guess.

Start slow, and be smart. Don't go straight for dabs. And maybe wait if your brain is still developing to really minimize risk.

 

[norseamd]

Oh, but you can if you have enough, especially as a newbie. Just perhaps not in ways you'd expect, but that's true of most hallucinogenics, I think.

well it is a psychidelic and you can frame

 

[norseamd]

No, the THC would be the difference between a normal day or a psychotic episode in that case, you can't excuse it just because you developed a dependence for it. Oh and yeah, it's addictive. I'm sorry but it is, you'll find users defending it despite findings that it's actually harmful for learning and that the effects are accentuated the longer you use it... People who can give it up any time they want to... amirite?

yep

they do all the time to pass drug tests for work

 

[himkhan]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/two-denver-deaths-tied-to-recreational-marijuana-use/

No one has ever and no one ever will "OD" on marijuana despite the zeal of fear uncertainty and doubt junkies.

 

[mnewsham]

People who can give it up any time they want to... amirite?

Ever heard of a tolerance break?

People take them all the time 4-8 weeks is usually sufficient for most people.

If you can stop smoking for 4-8 weeks once or twice a year, then I don't think by definition you are addicted...

 

[BlitzPuppet]

No one has ever and no one ever will "OD" on marijuana despite the zeal of fear uncertainty and doubt junkies.

Never say never. You can literally OD on anything....even water.

 

[Markbnj]

No, the THC would be the difference between a normal day or a psychotic episode in that case, you can't excuse it just because you developed a dependence for it.

Oh and yeah, it's addictive. I'm sorry but it is, you'll find users defending it despite findings that it's actually harmful for learning and that the effects are accentuated the longer you use it...

People who can give it up any time they want to... amirite?

Usually it takes more than 16 posts for a newb to confirm to the entire forum that they're nuts. Well done, sir. You're a prodigy.

 

[surfsatwerk]

amirite?

nope

 

[BlitzPuppet]

Usually it takes more than 16 posts for a newb to confirm to the entire forum that they're nuts. Well done, sir. You're a prodigy.

Well in his defense, if MJ was completely unaddictive then this scale would show it as a 0 in relation to dependence:

I'd assume caffeine would be between MJ and alcohol.

Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkr...far-safer-than-alcohol-but-not-entirely-safe/

 

[preslove]

There is no LD50 for Benzos, LSD or Peyote either, you'll have to die by having a truckload of ti falling on your head. That means absolutely nothing.

For anyone who is not a paranoid schizophrenic it can trigger episodes, in most people that use it it triggers psychotic episodes at some point. It's noteworthy that such psychotic episodes include actually killing random people because of the episodes.

THC isn't easy on the brain either, it's associated with learning problems and memory incoherence problems in ALL users, it's also associated with stunted growth (seems to inhibit GH release), impotence (seems to inhibit testostrone production) and diabetes type 2 (it messes with thyroid function).

It's pretty much a bad thing if you smoke a lot, and by a lot i mean more than a couple of joints a day two days a week.

Every single statement in this post is false.

This guy sounds like a sockpuppet for some new media anti-drug operation.

 

[SlowSpyder]

It kills more people than ingesting sulfuric acid too.

So by your retarded train of thought you should ingest sulfuric acid before you drink water?

YAY, you get the THC award for having smoked your brain into shreds.

It is a bucket of my piss but i'll tell you it is champagne and knowing no better you will surely drink it.

Were you high when you posted in this thread?

 

[mnewsham]

Well in his defense, if MJ was completely unaddictive then this scale would show it as a 0 in relation to dependence:

it is like chocolate. Everyone (not everyone but meh) loves chocolate. Some people have a bit of a chocolate problem and MUST have little chocolate in the office or at home to munch on. Could they stop eating chocolate? Yes. But they have a mental addiction to it and likely wont. Same thing with pot, you can get "addicted" to it, but it's not a physical addiction like with tobacco or alcohol where you actually go through a physical withdrawal. You just want to smoke because it makes you feel better. It is something to be wary of, but it's not a "real" addiction at least not how most people understand the word.

 

[Phoenix86]

No, the THC would be the difference between a normal day or a psychotic episode in that case, you can't excuse it just because you developed a dependence for it.

Oh and yeah, it's addictive. I'm sorry but it is, you'll find users defending it despite findings that it's actually harmful for learning and that the effects are accentuated the longer you use it...

People who can give it up any time they want to... amirite?

Oh, you're an idiot. Sorry, my mistake.

 

[Markbnj]

Well in his defense, if MJ was completely unaddictive then this scale would show it as a 0 in relation to dependence:

I'd assume caffeine would be between MJ and alcohol.

Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkr...far-safer-than-alcohol-but-not-entirely-safe/

A chart of "harm?" I have no idea what criteria the researchers who compiled that data are using to define that subjective concept, but I would not argue that marijuana, or alcohol, or coffee causes no harm, if only because such a thing is very hard to prove. But definitions mean something, and physical addiction is a well-defined phenomena. There are no physically addictive substances in marijuana. Marijuana does not cause physical dependence, period. People may not want to stop smoking it, but if they are forced to they will not suffer any adverse physical consequences due to abstaining from it. This is a stark contrast with substances that do cause physical dependence, including the other two "social" drugs in the chart you posted, as well as a host of more potent substances.

 

[techwar]

Wow, epic 6 pages of trolling back and forth. Great reading :awe: