Weed overdoses turn deadly in Colorado.

[pmv]

How come the OP link directs to a different link than the text label implies?

Anyway, the actual CBS story is as clear as mud. For example it emphasises the guy had a blood level a bit above what would be allowed for driving - well, er, so what? He wasn't driving. The dangerous element of driving while under the influence is the car not the substance! That's why for all substances society is quite strict about even modest impairments of reaction time and concentration. That's a long way from the behavior described in the report.

It also just says 'its linked' to the weed consumption because it occurred soon after it. But you could link things to coffee consumption or watching TV on that basis.

I don't partake in any of this stuff myself, but I will never cease to be cynical about the double-standards applied to different forms of harmful substances (though in my view 'the car' is the worst of the lot! It kills hundreds of thousands every year, and entire societies seem to get dependent on it!)

 

[shortylickens]

Wow, epic 6 pages of trolling back and forth. Great reading :awe:

Who the fuck were you?

JL Gatsby?
Mike Gaynor?
Nick1985?

 

[zinfamous]

No, the THC would be the difference between a normal day or a psychotic episode in that case, you can't excuse it just because you developed a dependence for it.

Oh and yeah, it's addictive. I'm sorry but it is, you'll find users defending it despite findings that it's actually harmful for learning and that the effects are accentuated the longer you use it...

People who can give it up any time they want to... amirite?

no, it's not addictive. Some people can develop a dependence on it, but it is absolutely not addictive--which requires a physical component. consider nicotine, which actually alters your neural pathways and trains your body to shut down certain neurotransmitters. You then need nicotine on a regular basis to replace that.

Yes, pretty much anyone can give up weed any time they want to. It's really fucking easy.

 

[jlee1]

yeah before all the old people start saying: "see what happens when you make drug legal!", it wasn't the weed that killed them, it was themselves. they were too immature and stupid to follow directions. give alcohol to an anxious man and he will do something reckless inevitably..

 

[Gooberlx2]

For anyone who is not a paranoid schizophrenic it can trigger episodes, in most people that use it it triggers psychotic episodes at some point.

Define "psychotic episode". Because, no, most people who use it, even those who don't exercise moderation, do not experience a psychotic episode such that they would harm themselves or others...ever.

 

[Markbnj]

Define "psychotic episode". Because, no, most people who use it, even those who don't exercise moderation, do not experience a psychotic episode such that they would harm themselves or others...ever.

It's just FUD. If there's a God in heaven then he won't, we pray, be back to define "psychotic episode" for us with the same insight he applies to the definition of addiction.

 

[BUTCH1]

no, it's not addictive. Some people can develop a dependence on it, but it is absolutely not addictive--which requires a physical component. consider nicotine, which actually alters your neural pathways and trains your body to shut down certain neurotransmitters. You then need nicotine on a regular basis to replace that.

Yes, pretty much anyone can give up weed any time they want to. It's really fucking easy.

While not physically addictive psychologically I would have to disagree, I had to stop way back in 1990 when EVERY employer started drug-testing so I quit but it was NOT "really easy" at all, I was jonesing for months, slept like shit and I was a very light smoker at that time too.

 

[Markbnj]

While not physically addictive psychologically I would have to disagree, I had to stop way back in 1990 when EVERY employer started drug-testing so I quit but it was NOT "really easy" at all, I was jonesing for months, slept like shit and I was a very light smoker at that time too.

It's different for different people, but I agree that psychological dependence is a possible risk, as it probably is for any mind-altering substance. I was a steady smoker back in the 80's and had been since the early 70's, and yet I often had to go without for weeks at a time, including one three-week trip to Israel, and several 1- to 2-week trips to other places. It never bothered me in any significant way. But then I was also a heavy tobacco user and yet could easily last the 8 hours on a plane to Europe when others would be sneaking into the bathrooms. Some people can just accept current reality, I guess, while others have a harder time with it.

 

[zinfamous]

While not physically addictive psychologically I would have to disagree, I had to stop way back in 1990 when EVERY employer started drug-testing so I quit but it was NOT "really easy" at all, I was jonesing for months, slept like shit and I was a very light smoker at that time too.

yes, I think some can develop a psychological dependence, which is why I mentioned it. But jonesing for weed is very different than physically needing nicotine in your system.

 

[justin4pack]

If cigarettes had been illegal my dad would be still alive.

If cars were illegal my nephew would still be alive

If Nuclear bombs were illegal hundreds of thousands of japanese would still be alive

If war were illegal millions upon millions of people would still be alive.

Go find a cause that that actually matters.

This. QFT

 

[BUTCH1]

It's different for different people, but I agree that psychological dependence is a possible risk, as it probably is for any mind-altering substance. I was a steady smoker back in the 80's and had been since the early 70's, and yet I often had to go without for weeks at a time, including one three-week trip to Israel, and several 1- to 2-week trips to other places. It never bothered me in any significant way. But then I was also a heavy tobacco user and yet could easily last the 8 hours on a plane to Europe when others would be sneaking into the bathrooms. Some people can just accept current reality, I guess, while others have a harder time with it.

Yea, I guess everyone's different, what I found weird was by the time I needed to stop I was a once-a-day smoker, maybe 4-5 tokes at night about an hour before bedtime and it still bothered me that I had to stop, I just wanted to modify my reality, not obliterate it LOL..

 

[zinfamous]

Yea, I guess everyone's different, what I found weird was by the time I needed to stop I was a once-a-day smoker, maybe 4-5 tokes at night about an hour before bedtime and it still bothered me that I had to stop, I just wanted to modify my reality, not obliterate it LOL..

yes, I do find that it can certainly effect your sleep if you become used to it in such a way--though it takes me maybe 2 or 3 days and everything is back to normal.

I think the only type of withdrawal (I'm associated withdrawal with physical pain) that people experience, is if they are on THC to mitigate pain, nausea, things like that. In this case, it is simply not having your pain meds that are leading to those symptoms.

Withdrawal from nicotine or opiates, that is actually the absence of those drugs from the body that causes pain.

All that being said, "pain" is a very subjective thing in many cases.

 

[njdevilsfan87]

Novice user + way too much THC = temporary psychosis.

About ~5-6 years ago, one night, out of curiosity, I decided to just see "how high I could get" off of some very strong weed that was readily available. That was the single worst night on my entire life. And it wasn't like that was the first time I had smoked. It was just the first time I had smoked anything near that much. After my stupid experiment I was stuck in some kind of completely separate "loop back reality" where I couldn't tell if the actions that happened in front of me actually happened or if I was just imaging them, and I would just sit there dwelling to the point where things would just replay over and over with a very clear picture (think daydreams amplified 100x). That escalated quickly into a conspiracy theory that the weed I had smoked was laced with something bad and I had OD'd on that, and was going to remain in that loony bin state for the rest of my life. I tried to Google what was wrong with me or if I was just experiencing a "bad trip" (which I was), but I just couldn't piece anything together. Time had slowed to a stop. I was shaking violently (or at least felt like I was). I must have suffered panic attacks for ~5 straight hours before I finally asleep. And the next day I still wasn't completely right. It wasn't until the following day after that I finally felt "fully grounded" again.

With that said, that state of mind can at least be tamed and or prevented through experience, where as getting blackout drunk always results in complete stupidity.

 

[soulcougher73]

OP you ever do any of the following?

Drink
Smoke
Eat
Drive
Fly
Live

These all kill a small amount of people as well considering.

We should ban life since you can die from it.

 

[Theb]

 

[BUTCH1]

yes, I do find that it can certainly effect your sleep if you become used to it in such a way--though it takes me maybe 2 or 3 days and everything is back to normal.

I think the only type of withdrawal (I'm associated withdrawal with physical pain) that people experience, is if they are on THC to mitigate pain, nausea, things like that. In this case, it is simply not having your pain meds that are leading to those symptoms.

Withdrawal from nicotine or opiates, that is actually the absence of those drugs from the body that causes pain.

All that being said, "pain" is a very subjective thing in many cases.

"Withdrawal from nicotine?", na, quitting is easy, I've done it 5 times already!

 

[ch33zw1z]

OMG Reefer Madness, it's real!!! Hide your children.

 

[crashtech]

Hearst would be proud.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Novice user + way too much THC = temporary psychosis.

About ~5-6 years ago, one night, out of curiosity, I decided to just see "how high I could get" off of some very strong weed that was readily available. That was the single worst night on my entire life. And it wasn't like that was the first time I had smoked. It was just the first time I had smoked anything near that much. After my stupid experiment I was stuck in some kind of completely separate "loop back reality" where I couldn't tell if the actions that happened in front of me actually happened or if I was just imaging them, and I would just sit there dwelling to the point where things would just replay over and over with a very clear picture (think daydreams amplified 100x). That escalated quickly into a conspiracy theory that the weed I had smoked was laced with something bad and I had OD'd on that, and was going to remain in that loony bin state for the rest of my life. I tried to Google what was wrong with me or if I was just experiencing a "bad trip" (which I was), but I just couldn't piece anything together. Time had slowed to a stop. I was shaking violently (or at least felt like I was). I must have suffered panic attacks for ~5 straight hours before I finally asleep. And the next day I still wasn't completely right. It wasn't until the following day after that I finally felt "fully grounded" again.

With that said, that state of mind can at least be tamed and or prevented through experience, where as getting blackout drunk always results in complete stupidity.

I keep trying to tell these fundamentalist pot heads that weed does bad things to your cabesa but they wont listen.

Thanks for sharing, though.

 

[ch33zw1z]

omg, LOL @ fundamentalist pot heads.....that's fucking gold Jerry, GOLD.

 

[JamesV]

I keep trying to tell these fundamentalist pot heads that weed does bad things to your cabesa but they wont listen. Take that pot head Zinfamous for example. That stoner would never benefit from a story like yours.

He is too busy abusing his misshapen brain.

Thanks for sharing, though.

His story is what you should be questioning. Either it is made up, or there was 'something else' in that weed. I'm guessing Opium if it's the latter, but 'novice user' having really strong weed around and deciding to smoke lots of it, makes me think it is the former.

 

[Ns1]

@JamesV, others - I can attest that this is definitely possible via weed, generally with concentrates or edibles. 2gram hash cookie sends 99% of users to a different universe

About ~5-6 years ago, one night, out of curiosity, I decided to just see "how high I could get" off of some very strong weed that was readily available. That was the single worst night on my entire life. And it wasn't like that was the first time I had smoked. It was just the first time I had smoked anything near that much. After my stupid experiment I was stuck in some kind of completely separate "loop back reality" where I couldn't tell if the actions that happened in front of me actually happened or if I was just imaging them, and I would just sit there dwelling to the point where things would just replay over and over with a very clear picture (think daydreams amplified 100x). That escalated quickly into a conspiracy theory that the weed I had smoked was laced with something bad and I had OD'd on that, and was going to remain in that loony bin state for the rest of my life. I tried to Google what was wrong with me or if I was just experiencing a "bad trip" (which I was), but I just couldn't piece anything together. Time had slowed to a stop. I was shaking violently (or at least felt like I was). I must have suffered panic attacks for ~5 straight hours before I finally asleep. And the next day I still wasn't completely right. It wasn't until the following day after that I finally felt "fully grounded" again.

 

[JamesV]

@JamesV, others - I can attest that this is definitely possible via weed, generally with concentrates or edibles. 2gram hash cookie sends 99% of users to a different universe

Yea, I've had some serious powerful brownies back in the day, but from smoking... I just don't see it. A novice smoker would never be able to smoke 'a lot' of weed; they'd forget about it even being there, or not want more.

 

[Ns1]

Yea, I've had some serious powerful brownies back in the day, but from smoking... I just don't see it. A novice smoker would never be able to smoke 'a lot' of weed; they'd forget about it even being there, or not want more.

i could theoretically conceive it via a bong hit with loads of keef on top OR through the use of concentrates

impossible via normal smoking means though.

 

[mnewsham]

i could theoretically conceive it via a bong hit with loads of keef on top OR through the use of concentrates

impossible via normal smoking means though.

yeah a kief bowl and a bong could do it, it can be hard to gauge just how much smoke you're actually getting unless you know the bong specifically and know how to hit it. But MOST people have a bit more caution and will educate themselves beforehand and/or have someone who has partaken before there to help out.