Weird Neighbor and Weird Things They are Doing! - Updated See First Post

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BigJ

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Originally posted by: Psychoholic
I just hope those poor people aren't growing, it would be a shame to get busted for cultivation because of a nosey paranoid neighbor.
You're right, I forgot pot is legal. They shouldn't get in trouble for that.


i request updates be put in the first thread. half these posts are irrelevant and 300+ posts are a lot to wade through.
If you feel it's a waste of your time, then simply don't read the thread. You'll know something, when we know something. Exactly what sort of update do you want right now??? The proper people have been called, nothing more is known at this time.

He's referring to her posting within the thread as opposed to the OP. Kinda hard to wade through all these posts.
 

chasem

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i dont know where you guys are getting your figures, but for some 'high times quality' weed, its about 450 an oz here. and that shits doesnt come around but once every 3 months. Which is worth more than gold
 

Chiboy

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Originally posted by: yamahaXS
i request updates be put in the first thread. half these posts are irrelevant and 300+ posts are a lot to wade through.

 

rmrf

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Originally posted by: mindless1
I agree, there is no evidence of a meth lab or pot. All we have is evidence of fairly normal activity for an RV... GO FIGURE! Most of you are acting irrational, clearly a sign of drug abuse. Your neighbor has noticed and together we'll have every governmental agency we can get, out there, poking into your life and taking up your time as much as possible. After all, who knows WHAT you might be doing in the privacy of your own home! If you don't like the idea of privacy, move to a country where it isn't valued. ... and wash your car because we want it pretty for the pictures.

(1st statement) Fairly normal avtivity includes:

water
electricity
lights
propane being used

Yes, this is all normal activity for someone who is living in the RV. As the original post, and many thereafter, have stated; nobody is living in the RV. Yet, the lights are on, for some reason there is water in there, a fan type noise was heard coming from the RV, and the propane tanks are constantly being filled up. This is hardly normal activity for this situation.

(2nd statement) Yes, who knows what you may be doing in the privacy of your own home, that is for everyone to wonder and for you to know. This is not being done in the privacy of the neighbors home. There is an ass ugly RV and truck in the backyard, and suspicious activity going on. When the neighbor was confronted, he said that he was a pro frisbee player! Ok, so why is the RV constantly being serviced while nobody is living in it? This is definitely suspicious activity, and even if nothing comes of it, the most time wasted was everyone on the board reading through posts and coming up with their own conclusions. Maybe this person lives in a small town, and the PD is looking for something to do, you never know.

Just my $0.02, take it or leave it.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: rmrf
Originally posted by: mindless1
I agree, there is no evidence of a meth lab or pot. <STRONG>All we have is evidence of fairly normal activity for an RV</STRONG>... GO FIGURE! Most of you are acting irrational, clearly a sign of drug abuse. Your neighbor has noticed and together we'll have every governmental agency we can get, out there, poking into your life and taking up your time as much as possible. <STRONG>After all, who knows WHAT you might be doing in the privacy of your own home!</STRONG> If you don't like the idea of privacy, move to a country where it isn't valued. ... and wash your car because we want it pretty for the pictures.

(1st statement) Fairly normal avtivity includes:

water
electricity
lights
propane being used

Yes, this is all normal activity for someone who is living in the RV. As the original post, and many thereafter, have stated; nobody is living in the RV. Yet, the lights are on, for some reason there is water in there, a fan type noise was heard coming from the RV, and the propane tanks are constantly being filled up. This is hardly normal activity for this situation.

(2nd statement) Yes, who knows what you may be doing in the privacy of your own home, that is for everyone to wonder and for you to know. This is not being done in the privacy of the neighbors home. There is an ass ugly RV and truck in the backyard, and suspicious activity going on. When the neighbor was confronted, he said that he was a pro frisbee player! Ok, so why is the RV constantly being serviced while nobody is living in it? This is definitely suspicious activity, and even if nothing comes of it, the most time wasted was everyone on the board reading through posts and coming up with their own conclusions. Maybe this person lives in a small town, and the PD is looking for something to do, you never know.

Just my $0.02, take it or leave it.
Hey now, don't go getting all logical and reasonable. People here hate that kind of stuff.

 

chasem

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Originally posted by: Rogue
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Originally posted by: BillGates
Originally posted by: WakeboardrB
Ok, someone tell me exactly what evidence there is of this being a meth lab?

There is no evidence of it being a meth lab. However, there's also no evidence supporting it NOT being a meth lab. The police have been contacted and will deal with the issue either way. Drop it.

So there isn't any real evidence of a meth lab. But the cops were called anyway. Am I the only one who is uncomfortable with this?

I hate it when people don't read the damn posts. Criminals get away with what they do most often because they disguise their illegal activities as something other than what it is. In this case, there is sufficient suspicion here to warrant an closer look, period. This scenario has been played out time and again across the nation in the production of meth, that is a fact. Saying there's nothing here to support the idea that they could be producing meth is being naiive. I've already stated several identifying traits of this being a meth lab. Meth is so prevalent here in Kansas, that most retailers have their systems setup so that if someone comes in and buys rat poison, Sudafed and camping fuel, the system is triggered and the entire transaction recorded or noted somehow. You're not trained in criminal investigation and can't see the forrest through the trees on this one. This scenario is just as likely to be a meth lab as it is not to be one and simply letting it slide is too much of a risk considering the extreme hazards of meth production.












You could be supporting terrorism, Lets tap your phone. lets ransack your house.
 

chasem

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What happened to the time where one could GO OVER AND TALK TO HIS NEIGHBOR. instead of posting YOUR NEIGHBORS pictures on the net to a bunch of strangers. does anyone else think that this whole situation is a bit perverse?
 

Rogue

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Originally posted by: chasem
What happened to the time where one could GO OVER AND TALK TO HIS NEIGHBOR. instead of posting YOUR NEIGHBORS pictures on the net to a bunch of strangers. does anyone else think that this whole situation is a bit perverse?

Hey! Asshat! His neighbor is a professional frisbee player. Read the damn thread!
 

mindless1

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Originally posted by: chasem
What happened to the time where one could GO OVER AND TALK TO HIS NEIGHBOR. instead of posting YOUR NEIGHBORS pictures on the net to a bunch of strangers. does anyone else think that this whole situation is a bit perverse?
Would you really want to spend time around neighbors that are this wacko? (I mean FettsBabe, not the RV owner).
 

mindless1

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This is now beyond ludicrous.

I urge some of you to visit an RV forum and argue that it's reaonable to consider calling the police based on the evidence (which, BTW, doesn't exist, we have no evidence of any drug activity whatsoever). Learn a bit about RVs before you pretend to know what's suspicious.
 

tnitsuj

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I can't believe I missed this thread.

The activties you describe are definately suspicious, but they are also quite possibly totally innocent. Either way, it is good that you informed the local police as you are in a state with a large Meth problem and thier are telltale signs there. If you were in Suburban MD as I am, it would be somewhat less likely although we have found a few basement/kitchen production facilities around here.

You could pretty easily tell if they were growing CDS Marijuana in there by seeing the light leakage from the non blacked out windows, if you had access to an infrared camera, that would probably be helpful as well,as that is a dead giveaway.


The propane containers as well as the various other containers filled with unknown substances in the back of that pickup are also very common traits of a meth lab. He could have benzene, acetone, starter fluid, etc in those. Extremely dangerous, any given the distance from the house, you may not be able to smell anything.




 

PanzerIV

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Originally posted by: Psychoholic
Am I the only one who is uncomfortable with this?
Why are you our neighbor??? If not then nothing is being done to you, period.

If we feel unsafe that's enough cause to warrant us calling the cops. If they are legit, then they have nothing to worry about. You don't live next door to us, and you have no idea how this makes us feel, so what's your real point, other than to try and make us feel guilty because our neighbors make us feel like we may be in danger.

Since when is their right to privacy more important than my right to be safe??? Guess the next time someone walks into a McDonalds with a loaded gun, we all should sit back and give him the benefit of the doubt too. Exactly when do you act on suspicion??? The proper officals will examine the situation and determine if action needs to be taken.

Of course if this is all unfounded, I'll be more than happy to post here and say I was wrong. However if it's found out we're right, I imagine all you "mind your own business" types will slink into the night.

Psychoholic I supported Fettbabe's suspicions in an earlier post and I will lend my support to you as well. Complacency is almost criminal in itself and if this turns out to be something I commend you for your viligance. If it does not turn out to be something I still stand behind your efforts because after reading the news I feel you are fully justified to wonder what's been going on because ANYTHING can happen these days and often does. Best wishes to you all and to seeing a positive outcome either way in this matter.
 

FettsBabe

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Mindless, I am a concerned neighbor who wants to keep her community safe. I suppose you would rather live in a high crime area?

Is this why your nickname is Mindless????
 

Rogue

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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
I can't believe I missed this thread.

The activties you describe are definately suspicious, but they are also quite possibly totally innocent. Either way, it is good that you informed the local police as you are in a state with a large Meth problem and thier are telltale signs there. If you were in Suburban MD as I am, it would be somewhat less likely although we have found a few basement/kitchen production facilities around here.

You could pretty easily tell if they were growing CDS Marijuana in there by seeing the light leakage from the non blacked out windows, if you had access to an infrared camera, that would probably be helpful as well,as that is a dead giveaway.


The propane containers as well as the various other containers filled with unknown substances in the back of that pickup are also very common traits of a meth lab. He could have benzene, acetone, starter fluid, etc in those. Extremely dangerous, any given the distance from the house, you may not be able to smell anything.

It's about damn time! I've been trying to hold my own here with the glut of morons who think they know the first thing about meth production and the signs that are here. I've said time and again that this could go either way. The thing that really tipped me the other way was the mailbox with the light on it though. I've seen and heard things like front porch lights on for pickups, mops on the front porch as a signal, etc.
 

AMCRambler

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This thread is great! Not only is it entertaining, I'm learning all about how to recognize meth labs and pot hydroponic growers. I didn't know any of this sh!t before. Plus it's made my work day interesting, I keep checking back to find out what the cops found. Good luck fetts, and smart move calling the police. You can never be too careful. I still haven't been able to see those pics yet either(damn company internet filter). I'm checking them out when I get home!
 

johnjosh

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so cops found nothing, like i said before and everyone else said you should have just mind your own business as there was no evidence of anything illegal going on except maybe zoining laws are being violated
 

AMCRambler

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Gah! I just saw the update! Tooks me a friggin half hour to read all the posts. No drugs! Boooo! I was so hoping you had busted them. Well at least you know you're not in any danger now. So we still don't know why the heck the damn RV is powered up! Well I guess it's back to my boring insignificant existance. It was fun living vicariously through you for a while though. Lata.
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: johnjosh
so cops found nothing, like i said before and everyone else said you should have just mind your own business as there was no evidence of anything illegal going on except maybe zoining laws are being violated

I watch out for my neighbors.

One time I saw three shady-looking guys walking down the beach. My beach is right near Atlantic City, which isn't the nicest town in the world. These guys didn't fit the typical set. Wearing Doc Marten's, baggy jeans, wife beaters. Not everyone on the beach is wearing a bathing suit, but they were wearing ordinary street clothes and quite frankly they looked out of place. But even "urban" types probably like to get out of the city heat and check out the pretty rich girls once in awhile.

So I chastized myself for judging them based on their appearance.

Later, they came up the beach the other way, but one was walking apart from the other two. As I watched from my chair the third guy walked up to someone's site (they had both gone for a walk on the beach) casually picked up their bag, and then ran towards the other two who were already making their way towards the dunes.

So much for not juding people. Luckily I was able to flag down a nearby beach patrol truck. The trio was arrested. They had been stealing bags all day.

Trust your gut.
 

nebula

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OK so no drugs but I was really hoping you'd get more info than that, like what actually is that thing being used for!
 

johnjosh

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: johnjosh
so cops found nothing, like i said before and everyone else said you should have just mind your own business as there was no evidence of anything illegal going on except maybe zoining laws are being violated

I watch out for my neighbors.

One time I saw three shady-looking guys walking down the beach. My beach is right near Atlantic City, which isn't the nicest town in the world. These guys didn't fit the typical set. Wearing Doc Marten's, baggy jeans, wife beaters. Not everyone on the beach is wearing a bathing suit, but they were wearing ordinary street clothes and quite frankly they looked out of place. But even "urban" types probably like to get out of the city heat and check out the pretty rich girls once in awhile.

So I chastized myself for judging them based on their appearance.

Later, they came up the beach the other way, but one was walking apart from the other two. As I watched from my chair the third guy walked up to someone's site (they had both gone for a walk on the beach) casually picked up their bag, and then ran towards the other two who were already making their way towards the dunes.

So much for not juding people. Luckily I was able to flag down a nearby beach patrol truck. The trio was arrested. They had been stealing bags all day.

Trust your gut.
don't get me wrong i watch out for neighboors but i don't get in to my neighboors business either. I know what time most my neighboors are home or not and if i saw a robbery in progress i would call the cops but don't think that will happen any time soon as 2 of my neighboors are cops. However as i said before i don't mind in to there business. If this happened at one my nighboor i woudn't call the cops or even zooning. The reason for not calling is once in about 2-3 week a patrol goes by here during regular patroll, alot of times they do it during evening patroll so if they decided that the rv is suspecious they could investigate but i woudn't call them to come and do the investigation

 

rahvin

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Originally posted by: nebula
OK so no drugs but I was really hoping you'd get more info than that, like what actually is that thing being used for!

From my reading of the update the cops didn't find anything but were still fairly suspicious that something in fact may be going on. It may simply be that they didn't have enough evidence. They are aware of the suspicious behavior now which is 90% of the battle as they will likely keep an eye on the property. I would love to have the cops drive through my neighborhood every now and then just to keep an eye on the area.
 

waggy

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This is why i have a old farmhouse. so i dont have neighbor's like this.
 
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UPDATE: The cops came out and looked at it. They couldn't find any drugs, THANK GOD! They said he was weird and thought his wife drinked. They are going to keep an eye on it because it was a weird set-up. That makes me feel better. I haven't spoke to zoning yet.

i wonder why the cops told u that they thought the woman "drinked"...its not very professional of them, i mean it had nothing to do with what you were worried about and doesnt seem to be any of your business
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
UPDATE: The cops came out and looked at it. They couldn't find any drugs, THANK GOD! They said he was weird and thought his wife drinked. They are going to keep an eye on it because it was a weird set-up. That makes me feel better. I haven't spoke to zoning yet.

i wonder why the cops told u that they thought the woman "drinked"...its not very professional of them, i mean it had nothing to do with what you were worried about and doesnt seem to be any of your business

I think someone is trying to justify calling the cops on their neighbors because they have a RV in their back yard.
 

mindless1

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Originally posted by: FettsBabe
Mindless, I am a concerned neighbor who wants to keep her community safe. I suppose you would rather live in a high crime area?

Is this why your nickname is Mindless????

You still completely missed the cental issue here. How do I put it?

Throughout history, man has been curious, and afraid, of the unknown. While there are plenty of things you're certainly knowledgeable about, things that would make someone else curious or afraid, you aren't. On the other hand, likewise, there are things you'll be curous or afraid of, that others aren't.

The difference? Knowledge and experience. You were not fit to make a sound judgement, and should've just left your neighbors alone if/until you gained a little more knowledge about RVs or spotted clear signs of drug-related activity. Those signs are hard to miss when someone is putting as much effort into it as you were.

Instead you jumped to a conclusion, with the help of others who weren't fit to make the call either... no amount of knowledge about pot or meth is relevant when there was no evidence of either. You were unsure when you started the thread then let people even less knowledgeable about the situation sway you... they are not at your home, and apparently know little to nothing about RVs.

Being concerned about the saftey of your community is not a justification to act in ignorance and start making unfounded accusations about your neighbors and posting pics. At least you didn't post their phone #.

It's funny that even now, having been wrong, you find fault with one of the few people who was using a little sense, was right. So what if 100 people tell you it's a meth lab? Use common sense. A few hundred years ago, 100 people, the majority, would've told you the world was flat. Do not give in to paranoia, there's just too much you'll miss out on in life.
 
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