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RbSX

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How old are you? Maybe 40 years ago, but science is a big part of cirriculum now; they even teach about evolution, although not from a human standpoint. Just because you believe in God doesn't meant you don't believe in tectonic shifts, dna, biology, geology, fossils, hatching of eggs, emergence of butterflies, etc..

Source: wife is a Catholic teacher.

Welp, you're spelling of curriculum doesn't help your cause, but to answer your question I'm only 25.

I went to Catholic school from the age 8-13, which is when my parents took me out and I transferred to another school.

It's not that they don't teach it, it's that most of them don't believe in it, and therefore don't do a thorough job of explaining it.
 

arcenite

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I think it's worth noting that my favorite class in college was Religion based and I don't consider myself religous.
 

Texashiker

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Lol, the texas troll is here for the party.

Besides having control issues, you also seem to have a difficult time respecting the opinion of other people.

Do you always resort to name calling? Most people grow out of that after high school.
 

gothamhunter

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Welp, you're spelling of curriculum doesn't help your cause, but to answer your question I'm only 25.

I went to Catholic school from the age 8-13, which is when my parents took me out and I transferred to another school.

It's not that they don't teach it, it's that most of them don't believe in it, and therefore don't do a thorough job of explaining it.

Oh shit, I misspelled a word. I am now a failure of my education and am obviously a retarded monkey posing as a human being.

What the fuck are you talking about? Most don't believe in SCIENCE!?

Go troll somewhere else.
 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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She sounds like someone who doesn't have any life skills for me, and in my opinion, having a background in religion automatically precludes her from any candidacy for being a teacher.

Having gone to public school, catholic school, and a non denominational private school... teachers with a religious background can't teach science. Not that this is important in the 1st grade, but.. they tend to have an agenda (even if it is subconconscious).
You are being very judgmental. Just because she had a religious background doesn't mean she is inevitably teaching religion at a non religious school.

Many teachers have faith outside of school and do not bring that into the school.

As far as science, in a public school they have to stick with the syllabus not teach their own brand of science.
 

paulney

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Besides having control issues, you also seem to have a difficult time respecting the opinion of other people.

Do you always resort to name calling? Most people grow out of that after high school.

I have a hard time respecting yours.
Wait, I don't have time for it at all, actually. I just don't respect it to begin with.
 

Texashiker

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I have a hard time respecting yours.
Wait, I don't have time for it at all, actually. I just don't respect it to begin with.

That is fine.

When you post a question on a public forum, how about not name calling when you do not like the answer.
 

bl4ckfl4g

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I agree with OP. This woman doesn't sound qualified to teach anything other than Sunday school at church. I think your kid's teacher is very important. That's why mine go to private school.
 

MotF Bane

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Welp, you're spelling of curriculum doesn't help your cause, but to answer your question I'm only 25.

I went to Catholic school from the age 8-13, which is when my parents took me out and I transferred to another school.

It's not that they don't teach it, it's that most of them don't believe in it, and therefore don't do a thorough job of explaining it.

That's a poor generalization. I did seven years of Catholic school, and the teachers had no problem dealing with conflicts between their beliefs and science. There are things I can fault the school for, but they did not allow religion to interfere with science.
 

moshquerade

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paulney, why don't you and your wife go meet this teacher and talk with her? Seems you are jumping to conclusions over a simple spelling oversight on her blog, her previous religious background, and a small incident where it took her a short time longer than the veteran teachers to organize the excited group of 6 year olds into a circle.

so far, i don't see any thing here that makes her a bad teacher.
 
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paulney

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paulney, why don't you an your wife go meet this teacher and talk with her? Seems you are jumping to conclusions over a simple spelling oversight on her blog, her previous religious background, and a small incident where it took her a short time longer than the veteran teachers to organize the excited group of 6 year olds into a circle.

so far, i don't see any thing here that makes her a bad teacher.

Yep, we plan to do just that.
 

Paladin3

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My daughter had a "brand new" teacher last year for 5th grade. She had a year of student teaching and some time teaching as a math specialist. She was wonderful. She pushed my daughter, who is also at the top of her class, and kept her challenged all year.

Few schools will let you have any choice in which teacher you get. It's been proven overall counterproductive to stack classes, and every class should get an equal mix of high and low performing students.

You should try to stick it out unless you have a truly incompetent teacher, which you can't possibly know from watching a few minutes of class. Teaching styles differ. One of the best 4th-grade teachers I ever worked with ran a fairly chaotic class. He produced responsible students who did well on tests, and could think and reason well.

Also, if it turns out you really do have an incompetent teachers, bring it to the administrations attention and demand they do something about her rather than just transferring your daughter out. Bad teachers need to be outed for the sake of everyone.
 

911paramedic

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First grade.

Write that 100 times and get back to us. No copy/paste, do it on actual paper with a pen or pencil.
 

RbSX

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Oh shit, I misspelled a word. I am now a failure of my education and am obviously a retarded monkey posing as a human being.

What the fuck are you talking about? Most don't believe in SCIENCE!?

Go troll somewhere else.

I'm not trolling buddy, how is someone supposed to talk about physics and the big bang when their religious beliefs directly conflict with it?

Frankly, it showed. They covered it because they had to, and they certainly DIDN'T go into the necessary depth that a topic like that justified. Part of the problem was that as a part of teaching at that particular school, was that you had to be Catholic, there were no teachers who weren't religious. This also manifested itself in classes such as history, and social studies.

I'm not saying this is the case for all schools, but rather, represents some of the pratfalls of religious teachers and/or religion oriented schools.

Yes, you are a failboat, you're talking about education when you can't spell curriculum, nor apparently do you proofread.
 

gevorg

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If it were junior high, I would be pissed too but 1st grade? Common, even a chimp can teach things to children at that age. The most important thing now is that your kid is happy and comfortable with the class/school/classmates.
 

DrPizza

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How old are you? Maybe 40 years ago, but science is a big part of cirriculum now; they even teach about evolution, although not from a human standpoint. Just because you believe in God doesn't meant you don't believe in tectonic shifts, dna, biology, geology, fossils, hatching of eggs, emergence of butterflies, etc..

Source: wife is a Catholic teacher.

pssssssst! Catholics believe in the Big Bang and Evolution. Don't tell anyone, it's been a secret for nearly 50 years.

I taught for one year at the local Catholic High School. I had one... religious fundy type of student in class who got really mad that I was teaching about the Big Bang. I thought - "oh shit, I'm in trouble now." But, I was backed up by the clergy in the school.

However, in many religious schools (non-Catholic) - they barely mention evolution - maybe a paragraph on it. Someone mentioned that this was even true at the college level in Louisiana.


To the OP: good luck. I'd give it a week or two to see how it goes though. It doesn't matter that she's student taught, or that she long term substituted for most of a school year. This is the first week of school. She's never done the first week of school before. It's the most important week of the school year, because it establishes the classroom rules, routines, etc. I'm not much of an expert on early childhood (1st graders), but in my classes, there's no way in hell that I'd ever miss a single day during the first two weeks. Screw up during those first two weeks with high school students, and they'll walk all over you the rest of the year. In fact, I had a training thing that was scheduled early in September on the new national standards - no f'ing way I'm missing a class during the first two weeks. When she went in and substitute/student taught, classroom discipline/routines had already been established. It's good that people can volunteer to help in the classroom - if ever, this is the most important time to give her a hand.

To Slag (and others) - Watch Arnold Schwarzenegger's movie Kindergarten Cop. Watch how chaotic little kids can get. I don't think that was acting on the part of the kids early in the movie - I think it was reality. I could never deal with managing a classroom full of little kids all day. Middle school/high school kids? No problem. I'm sure that the curriculum won't be too tough for you to handle - but I'm going out on a limb and am going to assume that you think that knowing the curriculum is 90% of the job. Wrong.
 

gothamhunter

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I'm not trolling buddy (; not , or just start a new sentence) how is someone supposed to talk about physics and the big bang when their religious beliefs directly conflict with it?

Frankly, it showed. They covered it because they had to, and they certainly DIDN'T go into the necessary depth that a topic like that justified. Part of the problem was that as a part of teaching at that particular school, <snip> you had to be Catholic (; not , or just start a new sentence) there were no teachers who weren't religious. This also manifested itself in classes such as history, and social studies.

I'm not saying this is the case for all schools, but rather (no ,) represents some of the pratfalls of religious teachers and/or religion oriented schools.

Yes, you are a failboat (; not , or just start a new sentence) you're talking about education when you can't spell curriculum, nor apparently do you proofread.

ftfy. You should learn correct punctuation before you belittle my single spelling error.

Everything else - I'm sorry that the school you went to went that extreme, but that is not how the general Catholic school system works. Also, even though they are private schools, their teaching standards and information that they teach still have to be approved per state.

I've never heard of a Catholic person denying that physics exist; the big bang theory, however, I could understand if they're that deep into their faith.
 
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PingSpike

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Might want to find out what credentials she has that the school decided to hire her; teaching jobs are in a shortage right now and it would seem they could have hired someone else - maybe you're just being nitpicky because you didn't get the teacher you wanted.

How long has everyone else taught at that school? Obviously if they all have for years and years then they have it down-pat.

If it is anything like my schools growing up her credentials are probably "being an existing teacher or administrator's child".
 

RbSX

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ftfy. You should learn correct punctuation before you belittle my single spelling error.

Everything else - I'm sorry that the school you went to went that extreme, but that is not how the general Catholic school system works. Also, even though they are private schools, their teaching standards and information that they teach still have to be approved per state.

I've never heard of a Catholic person denying that physics exist; the big bang theory, however, I could understand if they're that deep into their faith.

I would agree that this isn't the consensus, some of my friends had very good experiences at other Catholic schools; however, I'm just posing some of the problems that religious teachers might pose. I certainly wouldn't want my child to be taught by one in the first grade, that's all.
 

dullard

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Studies can't even prove that which high school a child attends has any measurable impact on their education. 1st grade is even more meaningless. What matters far, far more is the parents. Do you read to them? Do they even have access to books? Etc. Be a good parent. But forget wasting your time about a meaningless 1st grade teacher.
 
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