Well, it looks like Conroe @2.66 eats a fx-60@2.8 for a light afternoon snack...UPDATED ARTICLE AT AT!

[Crescent13]

My new dream system:

Intel Conroe 2.67Ghz
Quad G80's in SLI
Windows Vista Ultimate Edition x64
32GB DDR2-800 Ram. (With the 8GB FB-DIMM out, and probably 4 DIMM slots per mobo like normal, that would be 32GB of ram).

 

[garkon8]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Well garkon8 goto Newegg.com and look up 955X mobos. Case closed on why it might suck to buy Intel procs...I just hope prices come down in 6 months....but again it might be a bit of a pipe dream

Congrats, on your above average Epox board. As you can see from my system, I am perfectly happy to wait and sit on a mature platform, until I feel it's time to upgrade wisely. When I see either AMD or Intel reaching the next plateau (possibly Conroe), will I spend my hard earned ca$h. My upgrade cycle is tame by some people's standard on this board (1-3 years). I game, encode, and crunch just fine for now. I won't lie, my trigger finger is itching for a complete upgrade soon, but I'll wait for the dust to settle.

 

[Duvie]

I will buy one as soon as they come out...I am a bit bored right now as many can tell by my anemic posts of late....BORING!!!!!!!

My boss as part of my incentives to not leave is I can build a new home PC per year on her!!!! I think I will take her up on that in 6 months...

I think I will get a moderate speed one and OC ofcourse...may get a water cooling case, 2gb of ram, 200gb drives, and a 7800 if I can still do a soft quadro mod....

 

[MBrown]

Originally posted by: Duvie
I will buy one as soon as they come out...I am a bit bored right now as many can tell by my anemic posts of late....BORING!!!!!!!

My boss as part of my incentives to not leave is I can build a new home PC per year on her!!!! I think I will take her up on that in 6 months...

I think I will get a moderate speed one and OC ofcourse...may get a water cooling case, 2gb of ram, 200gb drives, and a 7800 if I can still do a soft quadro mod....

wow. what is your job?

 

[Pr0phetX]

riiiiight.

 

[dug777]

bump for teh updates

 

[Conky]

The updated article should take the steam out of the conspiracy theories.

Looks like Intel has a solid chip on it's hands. :thumbsup:

 

[DAPUNISHER]

The BIOS meant precisely dick, but that was a huge drop in F.E.A.R., though 20% is still ass whuppin' territory, just not ass stompin'

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Crazyfool
The updated article should take the steam out of the conspiracy theories.

Looks like Intel has a solid chip on it's hands. :thumbsup:

ya rly to both

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: batmanuel

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Hmm...Conroe, new motherboard, new RAM, new PCI-E vid card...this is going to be one hell of an expensive upgrade year

Don't forget "new OS" as well, if Vista Ultimate is worth the price.

Well, my university has a Microsoft licensing agreement...I got XP Pro for $5, so I'm hoping Vista will be similarly cheap through them

my price from my school = free

 

[Duvie]

I think dug777 should quit trying to stir the shite with 6 month previews....wait until we see some more firm pricing on chipsets and chips to see what has value. I think anybody with a brain knew Intel was going to take back performance crown. Again any moron who has infrequently following the tech news knew AM2 was not going to enhance much and the conroe was going to be a real enhancement in work per clock....AM2 has sounded like a dud from half a year ago. We all knew DDR2 was going to have no or possibly a negative value to the AMD chips. Their only short-term answer was going to be increased clockspeed. Again any moron knows based on OCing of current 90nm chips that 3ghz is no gimme and would be a very very small select of ones that could hit it...

I guess this being news to so many has me quite preplexed about the make-up of the forum.

You think Dug would have been one of those to figure that out instead of making such huge shocking news out of not much of anything.


Again I will restate my plan is likely to get one once I see th e dust settle on chipsets (and with Intel of late, longevity of chipset) and pricing. I dont care who wins, except for me. I win when I can get a kick-arse chip for under 400 dollars that I can OC the piss out of and get a healthy increase over my current setup.

I own no stock of either...i have no pony in this fight...Frankly cpus of late have really bored me. Intel cpus for the last 2 years have damn near put me in a coma. The money I have saved from a rather anemic year of upgrades have allowed me to buy my HDTV home theater dream setup....55" Hitachi Plasma, Bose Acoutimass speakers, new upsampling DVD-player, etc.....I will have fun here while I wait for cpus to get interesting again as well as the content of this forum...

 

[Stoneburner]

It's nice seeing a large performance boost, everything has been incremental since a64 came out, and incremental is boring. I recently got rid of my 3.06 p4b and even that was not exactly crushed by intel's newer chips.

Anyway, i wont upgrade for probably a year so I have no idea if i'll be switching back. I really just hope AMD has something.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Duvie
I think dug777 should quit trying to stir the shite with 6 month previews....wait until we see some more firm pricing on chipsets and chips to see what has value. I think anybody with a brain knew Intel was going to take back performance crown. Again any moron who has infrequently following the tech news knew AM2 was not going to enhance much and the conroe was going to be a real enhancement in work per clock....AM2 has sounded like a dud from half a year ago. We all knew DDR2 was going to have no or possibly a negative value to the AMD chips. Their only short-term answer was going to be increased clockspeed. Again any moron knows based on OCing of current 90nm chips that 3ghz is no gimme and would be a very very small select of ones that could hit it...

I guess this being news to so many has me quite preplexed about the make-up of the forum.

You think Dug would have been one of those to figure that out instead of making such huge shocking news out of not much of anything.


Again I will restate my plan is likely to get one once I see th e dust settle on chipsets (and with Intel of late, longevity of chipset) and pricing. I dont care who wins, except for me. I win when I can get a kick-arse chip for under 400 dollars that I can OC the piss out of and get a healthy increase over my current setup.

I own no stock of either...i have no pony in this fight...Frankly cpus of late have really bored me. Intel cpus for the last 2 years have damn near put me in a coma. The money I have saved from a rather anemic year of upgrades have allowed me to buy my HDTV home theater dream setup....55" Hitachi Plasma, Bose Acoutimass speakers, new upsampling DVD-player, etc.....I will have fun here while I wait for cpus to get interesting again as well as the content of this forum...

It shocked me (hence the thread title ), there was no way i was expecting those kind of numbers...sure i kinda hoped intel would come out marginally on top at this stage, just to keep some pressure on AMD, but i didn't expect this kind of hosing...

As far as i can see, with the exception of taking a few digs at me (), you've restated what i've said, AM2 will do very little to close the gap by all accounts & we will be waiting on AMDs die shrink before they realistically have a chance of getting close to these figures (especially noting, as AT did, that this is just an upper midrange part, not an EE that should come in @ at least 3ghz)...

 

[jones377]

For those of you who like to read a bit more details about NGA, look here:

NGA presentation

id: idf
pw: spring2006

4 DP/cycle....

 

[HurleyBird]

Originally posted by: Duvie
...Bose Acoutimass speakers...

That was a mistake.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: HurleyBird

Originally posted by: Duvie
...Bose Acoutimass speakers...

That was a mistake.

Not for my space it wasn't.....I dont have the need for larger floor speakers...I will have the p;lasma wall mounted and all wires in the walls. Speakers will also be mounted on wall. I listened to them all and for the money they could not be beat in quality of sound...

That is a side topic anyways and likely a matter of choice....I didn't get the 2000 dollar version....

 

[HurleyBird]

Those listening stations are fixed you know.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: Duvie
I think dug777 should quit trying to stir the shite with 6 month previews....wait until we see some more firm pricing on chipsets and chips to see what has value. I think anybody with a brain knew Intel was going to take back performance crown. Again any moron who has infrequently following the tech news knew AM2 was not going to enhance much and the conroe was going to be a real enhancement in work per clock....AM2 has sounded like a dud from half a year ago. We all knew DDR2 was going to have no or possibly a negative value to the AMD chips. Their only short-term answer was going to be increased clockspeed. Again any moron knows based on OCing of current 90nm chips that 3ghz is no gimme and would be a very very small select of ones that could hit it...

I guess this being news to so many has me quite preplexed about the make-up of the forum.

You think Dug would have been one of those to figure that out instead of making such huge shocking news out of not much of anything.


Again I will restate my plan is likely to get one once I see th e dust settle on chipsets (and with Intel of late, longevity of chipset) and pricing. I dont care who wins, except for me. I win when I can get a kick-arse chip for under 400 dollars that I can OC the piss out of and get a healthy increase over my current setup.

I own no stock of either...i have no pony in this fight...Frankly cpus of late have really bored me. Intel cpus for the last 2 years have damn near put me in a coma. The money I have saved from a rather anemic year of upgrades have allowed me to buy my HDTV home theater dream setup....55" Hitachi Plasma, Bose Acoutimass speakers, new upsampling DVD-player, etc.....I will have fun here while I wait for cpus to get interesting again as well as the content of this forum...

It shocked me (hence the thread title ), there was no way i was expecting those kind of numbers...sure i kinda hoped intel would come out marginally on top at this stage, just to keep some pressure on AMD, but i didn't expect this kind of hosing...

As far as i can see, with the exception of taking a few digs at me (), you've restated what i've said, AM2 will do very little to close the gap by all accounts & we will be waiting on AMDs die shrink before they realistically have a chance of getting close to these figures (especially noting, as AT did, that this is just an upper midrange part, not an EE that should come in @ at least 3ghz)...

I took digs at you cause all of these threads do absolutely nothing....I cannot buy it for awhile so lets not have a 1000 of them claiming dominance and performance lead when I cannot buy it...1 thread is all that was need to discuss AT review...simple as that...

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: HurleyBird
Those listening stations are fixed you know.

Yeah but I heard the same thing at 3 different stores and they would have made more money getting me to buy a Klispch setup...So which one do you think they would try to sell more of when they work on commission, huh???? They have all the advanatges to downplay the bose and get me into a more expensive setup....

 

[RichUK]

Duvie I totally agree. 1 thread is needed, not F?ing 10 of them on the front page. Also this product is not even going to be around for another 6 months :shocked:

 

[Qbah]

I wonder if it's possible, that Conroe will work on i945 and better chipsets? The rig was running on an i975X. It's not that much different than an i945. Supports the same voltage and FSB (up to 1066MHz).

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: RichUK
Duvie I totally agree. 1 thread is needed, not F?ing 10 of them on the front page. Also this product is not even going to be around for another 6 months :shocked:

Maybe you should see video. They had tonsa threads mentioning the new ATI and Nvidia cards a month or two before they came out. And there have been plenty of threads speculating about AM2 in these forums.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: Duvie
I think dug777 should quit trying to stir the shite with 6 month previews....wait until we see some more firm pricing on chipsets and chips to see what has value. I think anybody with a brain knew Intel was going to take back performance crown. Again any moron who has infrequently following the tech news knew AM2 was not going to enhance much and the conroe was going to be a real enhancement in work per clock....AM2 has sounded like a dud from half a year ago. We all knew DDR2 was going to have no or possibly a negative value to the AMD chips. Their only short-term answer was going to be increased clockspeed. Again any moron knows based on OCing of current 90nm chips that 3ghz is no gimme and would be a very very small select of ones that could hit it...

I guess this being news to so many has me quite preplexed about the make-up of the forum.

You think Dug would have been one of those to figure that out instead of making such huge shocking news out of not much of anything.


Again I will restate my plan is likely to get one once I see th e dust settle on chipsets (and with Intel of late, longevity of chipset) and pricing. I dont care who wins, except for me. I win when I can get a kick-arse chip for under 400 dollars that I can OC the piss out of and get a healthy increase over my current setup.

I own no stock of either...i have no pony in this fight...Frankly cpus of late have really bored me. Intel cpus for the last 2 years have damn near put me in a coma. The money I have saved from a rather anemic year of upgrades have allowed me to buy my HDTV home theater dream setup....55" Hitachi Plasma, Bose Acoutimass speakers, new upsampling DVD-player, etc.....I will have fun here while I wait for cpus to get interesting again as well as the content of this forum...

It shocked me (hence the thread title ), there was no way i was expecting those kind of numbers...sure i kinda hoped intel would come out marginally on top at this stage, just to keep some pressure on AMD, but i didn't expect this kind of hosing...

As far as i can see, with the exception of taking a few digs at me (), you've restated what i've said, AM2 will do very little to close the gap by all accounts & we will be waiting on AMDs die shrink before they realistically have a chance of getting close to these figures (especially noting, as AT did, that this is just an upper midrange part, not an EE that should come in @ at least 3ghz)...

I took digs at you cause all of these threads do absolutely nothing....I cannot buy it for awhile so lets not have a 1000 of them claiming dominance and performance lead when I cannot buy it...1 thread is all that was need to discuss AT review...simple as that...

hey, you're sounding like a jerk now, i posted it quickly, and it was basically the first to refer to at THAT article The first to quote pricing, & the first to be updated in the title after AT updated

If you don't like it, pm a Mod and tell them to lock the thread, but get your facts straight when you start b1tching at me.

 

[pedramrezai]

The way most of the people are thinking is just the way Intel has planned. I am a AMD fan but I can realize competition is good for customers. I was shocked by Core performance but using a handicapped AMD system really annoyed me. First, reviewers have already proven RD580 or solutions with dual 16x can deliver up to 10-15% more performance when paired with high-end, bandwith hungry vga cards. Second, we have been hearing of dual core optimizations in display drivers for some time but were unable to see something significant until we saw Conroe performance; I am quite suspicious over some hefty optimizations in intel-cooked display driver. Time will reveal. Third, this might be the beginning of a new SSEx game with unfair optimizations for a new technoogy.
I am surprized how people are trashing the current as well as future AMD64 technology.But remember that Core is not out yet and all these might be some optimizations that has granted it this performance level. Moreover, the current AMD64 technology is almost 3 years old and the new AM2 will update its specs. AMD did not like DDR2 high latency; What they are looking for is its higher frequency that can be paired with the new AM2 FSB.For Athlon 64 and Sempron a 333mhz FSB that paires with DDR2 666 and for the Fx parts a 400 mhz FSB pairing with DDR2 800. If DDR1 could reach these frequencies you could now see the real potential of AMD64. This kind of bandwith will give Core a hard time. Also remember that AMD is increasing cache (L2 and maybe L3). Shared cache is also something that will be seen in the future products and will bring huge performance gains. Based on the preliminary data of 200/266 async single channel bandwith of 3500mb/s a memory bandwith of >10k is expected in the final product and if Intel was going to compare its future platform, it was not fare to compare it with an infrastructure of >2 years old. I am sure the new AM2 will regain AMD reputation once again. But we all must remember that this competition between major players is good for the end users.