Well this is crap... outsniped

[nublikescake]

sooo...you fucked up?

Lol! I love sniping and is how I buy most of my items but damn son, you don't know jack what you're talking about! purbeast is 100% right about this. If you were out-sniped, it means that the winning bidder paid more than you were willing to, plain and simple. What you frantically attempted to do in the last few seconds, you could've done before in the form of a Max bid. I will give you this though that max bids drive up the price because there are those anal mofos out there who up the bid with miniscule increments just to figure out what the current highest bid is.

 

[Farmer]

I will give you this though that max bids drive up the price because there are those anal mofos out there who up the bid with miniscule increments just to figure out what the current highest bid.

Why would they do that? Just set a max bid. You will find out immediately whether your max bid is higher or lower than the current one.

 

[HAL9000]

Why would they do that? Just set a max bid. You will find out immediately whether your max bid is higher or lower than the current one.

Why would they do it? Because they don't know how much they are prepared to pay I assume.

Also, Some items don't have a "market value" that can be discerned from eBay.

 

[purbeast0]

what i want to know now is why is OP scared to post a link to the auction in question?

 

[nublikescake]

You will find out immediately whether your max bid is higher or lower than the current one.

Thus prompting me (if I am an ebay troll) to continually try higher bids until mine is the highest.

 

[JohnnyMCE]

Sniping is more of a method to remove possible last second responses and inflating the price rather than getting something cheap (that is sometimes a perk of it though).

I snipe at least once or twice a week. I will watch an auction all week at a certain price. I do my research figure out the most I should bid and then with two seconds left I put in my max bid. Sometimes i win sometimes i lose. Usually no one can get a manual bid in after me. The only way the person wins is if the current high bidder had a high maximum bid.

It's pretty straight forward. In the end the person willing to pay the most will win between the sniper and the current high bidder.

 

[JEDIYoda]

actually you were cheap. There is noway you can get out sniped if you are willing to pay more than everyone else.
Just put the maximum you are willing to pay and go for it...

 

[JEDIYoda]

again you are so wrong.....
lets say the item you want has been bid up to $100.....
Then you go to e-bay and put that you are willing to pay $200......unless somebody is willing to pay more then you have the item...

sniping is so old hat...rofl@snipers..

 

[JEDIYoda]

actually you were cheap. There is noway you can get out sniped if you are willing to pay more than everyone else.
Just put the maximum you are willing to pay and go for it...

I know what their former max bid was. And I know the time in which they bid again.

nope you did nt know what they were willing to pay.....
If there is an item that I want I will always put down $100 more than the previous bid...usually I get that item at the next bid over the persons max bid...

 

[Anonemous]

I always thought Ebay worked like this:

Bidder one sets max bid at $50. Item starts at $10.

Bidder two (thinks he's a hot shot) snipes bidder one 2 seconds before it ends with a max bid at $20.

Bidder one (with Ebay's automatic bidding up to $50) wins at $20.01.

So what am I missing here?

Sniper doesn't know what the max bid is. Only thing he does is drive up the price.

 

[HAL9000]

I always thought Ebay worked like this:

Bidder one sets max bid at $50. Item starts at $10.

Bidder two (thinks he's a hot shot) snipes bidder one 2 seconds before it ends with a max bid at $20.

Bidder one (with Ebay's automatic bidding up to $50) wins at $20.01.

So what am I missing here?

You're missing the fact that some people bid 15 times in a single auction, they don't start with their maximum bid. They just try to outbid everyone else.

 

[Schfifty Five]

I always thought Ebay worked like this:

Bidder one sets max bid at $50. Item starts at $10.

Bidder two (thinks he's a hot shot) snipes bidder one 2 seconds before it ends with a max bid at $20.

Bidder one (with Ebay's automatic bidding up to $50) wins at $20.01.

So what am I missing here?

Sniper doesn't know what the max bid is. Only thing he does is drive up the price.

Your thinking is correct. That is definitely ONE scenario.

Another scenario would be that Bidder one only set his max at $10; item starts at $10. Bidder 2 (hot shot) snipes @ 2 seconds left for $20. Most likely, Bidder 2 will win at $10.25 (or whatever the increment is) since Bidder #1 probably can't put another bid in within those last 2 seconds.

 

[Schfifty Five]

what i want to know now is why is OP scared to post a link to the auction in question?

Because he changed his story up too much that posting the actual auction would reveal how much of an idiot he is...afterall, we all know what his previous name was lol.

 

[Anonemous]

You're missing the fact that some people bid 15 times in a single auction, they don't start with their maximum bid. They just try to outbid everyone else.

You are missing the fact that eBay lets you set a max bid and will automatically bid for you as it goes up to your max bid. I understand you may not want to bid until the closing seconds to get an item for less than your max bid but you take a risk that someone else has a higher max bid than you.

 

[DrPizza]

OP, I hate to say this, but you sound like an idiot. The only thing sniping does is eliminates emotional bidders who will bid higher than an item is actually worth, simply because they don't want to be outbid. At the end of the auction, the person willing to pay more money is the person who won the auction. If you were actually willing to pay more money, then you were an idiot for not bidding more money with your snipe.

For all you know, the winning bidder could have sniped it at 2 seconds left with a ONE MILLION DOLLAR bid. It doesn't matter if you attempted your snipe with 10 seconds left, or .0001 seconds left. He would win the auction. And, to you, it would appear that you had entered "the right amount."

Perhaps we need to explain it to you: If the minimum bid is $10, and someone enters $1000, it simply goes up to $11 (or whatever the minimum increment is) until someone bids higher than $11.

 

[HAL9000]

You are missing the fact that eBay lets you set a max bid and will automatically bid for you as it goes up to your max bid. I understand you may not want to bid until the closing seconds to get an item for less than your max bid but you take a risk that someone else has a higher max bid than you.

I understand that, other people seem to not however. For example this has happened to me (before I started sniping)

Current bid: 99p
I bid a max bid of £10
eBay displays bid of £1.15
Bidder 2 bids
eBay displays bid of £4.15
Bidder 2 bids
eBay displays bid of £8.15
Bidder 2 bids
eBay displays bid of £10.15

Now, If I had bid at 2 seconds, then someone wouldn't have had the time to sit there, finding my max bid and out bidding it.

 

[HAL9000]

OP, I hate to say this, but you sound like an idiot. The only thing sniping does is eliminates emotional bidders who will bid higher than an item is actually worth

The problem is you're assuming that the item has an official, obvious value... Which it may not.

 

[Schfifty Five]

You are missing the fact that eBay lets you set a max bid and will automatically bid for you as it goes up to your max bid. I understand you may not want to bid until the closing seconds to get an item for less than your max bid but you take a risk that someone else has a higher max bid than you.

First I just want to re-emphasize that what you describe is just ONE scenario and one type of bidding style.

Regarding the bolded part: That has no bearing on sniping. If you snipe with your max bid and lose, fine, you didn't want to pay more than that anyways. If you snipe with your max bid and win, great, you won the auction AT OR BELOW the max you were willing to pay.

 

[ElFenix]

You are missing the fact that eBay lets you set a max bid and will automatically bid for you as it goes up to your max bid. I understand you may not want to bid until the closing seconds to get an item for less than your max bid but you take a risk that someone else has a higher max bid than you.

you're always at risk that someone outbids you. they could outbid you with 3 days left in the auction, they could outbid you with 3 seconds left in the auction.

you should always bid your max, and always with less than 30 seconds left. that is all you can do. if you get outbid, then big deal, it was more than you were willing to pay.

 

[Lean L]

You tools need to get this properly.

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[Lean L]

WTF?

How is 2nd highest bidder and HIGHEST bidder the same damned thing?

If you were 2nd highest bidder after your snipe, that means the other bidder had a higher max bid than you.

If you truly were the highest bidder after your snipe @ 8 seconds, then the other bidder had to have manually put in another bid in order to beat you and thus over paid per your valuation.

Two different frames. One at 8 secs, one after auction. You need your head checked. I'm saying if I put it in at 2 secs there would be no bid after that.

 

[Lean L]

Agreed, I'm all for sniping but don't complain when you don't do it right

I'm saying it sucks that I didn't have my normal server at my disposal. Else it would have been mine. There's no right or wrong way to do it. I didn't choose 8 secs, that was my current limitation.

 

[HAL9000]

I'm saying it sucks that I didn't have my normal server at my disposal. Else it would have been mine. There's no right or wrong way to do it. I didn't choose 8 secs, that was my current limitation.

What do you mean you didn't choose 8 seconds? That's when you bid...?

 

[ElFenix]

I'm saying it sucks that I didn't have my normal server at my disposal. Else it would have been mine. There's no right or wrong way to do it. I didn't choose 8 secs, that was my current limitation.

8 seconds or 2 seconds doesn't change the fact that YOU GOT OUTBID

 

[Schfifty Five]

Two different frames. One at 8 secs, one after auction. You need your head checked. I'm saying if I put it in at 2 secs there would be no bid after that.

WTF does two different frames mean?