Wells Fargo lays off 2,300 employees

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http://money.cnn.com/2013/08/22/real_estate/wells-fargo-layoffs/

August 22, 2013: 2:22 PM ET

NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
Wells Fargo said it is reducing its workforce by 2,300 employees because of rising interest rates and declines in mortgage refinancing.

"Yesterday, at locations across the country, we provided a 60-day notice of displacement to approximately 2,300 mortgage team members," the financial firm said Thursday in a prepared statement.

Wells Fargo (WFC, Fortune 500) said it was culling its staff as "the result of less mortgage refinancing volume than we experienced through 2012 and early 2013."

Wells Fargo spokesman Alfredo Padilla said the reductions include 291 jobs in Tempe, Ariz., but would not specify any other locations affected.

Related: Mortgage rate climb to two-year high

Mortgage rates have been volatile over the past year. The average rate of a 30-year mortgage hit a two-year high of 4.58% this week, according to Freddie Mac, after slumping to 3.35% in May, which is one of the lowest rates on record. The average 30-year rate bottomed out at 3.31% in November of 2012, which was an all-time low.

Padilla would not say how many total people the company employs. To top of page
 

zephyrprime

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Back in 2009 I worked there as a temp in the centralized underwriting division. Huge hiring back then as mortgage refi's boomed. One of the parking ramps went from near empty to full. Well, it was bound to end someday since the low interest rates were only the result of fed control rather than of a free market.
 

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Back in 2009 I worked there as a temp in the centralized underwriting division. Huge hiring back then as mortgage refi's boomed. One of the parking ramps went from near empty to full. Well, it was bound to end someday since the low interest rates were only the result of fed control rather than of a free market.
well then it's not much of a scandal if everyone involved knew they were living on a temporary phenomenon.
 

Fritzo

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Their CEO must have needed another $20million in bonuses to stay. You have to keep your talent, you know.
 

drebo

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Their CEO must have needed another $20million in bonuses to stay. You have to keep your talent, you know.

Yes, because it's the company's job to make sure everyone is always employed forever.

In the real world, if your job no longer exists, you no longer have one.
 

Craig234

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Yes, because it's the company's job to make sure everyone is always employed forever.

In the real world, if your job no longer exists, you no longer have one.

That attitude about workers would be more acceptable if you didn't ignore the huge abuses of executive compensation. THAT'S all justified and appropriate, of course, right?
 
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Yes, because it's the company's job to make sure everyone is always employed forever.

In the real world, if your job no longer exists, you no longer have one.

presumably, it's a move to cut costs right? If that's the case, the chairman can reduce his ~$23 million / yr compensation.
 

BoberFett

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That attitude about workers would be more acceptable if you didn't ignore the huge abuses of executive compensation. THAT'S all justified and appropriate, of course, right?

Apparently consumers (in this case, home buyers) care more getting what they want than about the salaries of executives.

Blame consumers and their greed.
 

drebo

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That attitude about workers would be more acceptable if you didn't ignore the huge abuses of executive compensation. THAT'S all justified and appropriate, of course, right?

Not sure what executive compensation has to do with people whose jobs are no longer necessary.

Maybe you can explain?
 

drebo

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presumably, it's a move to cut costs right? If that's the case, the chairman can reduce his ~$23 million / yr compensation.

If they're processing fewer mortgages than they were when these 2300 were hired, letting them go is not a cost saving measure. Letting them go is common sense.

Also, Wells Fargo employs nearly 270,000 people. If the CEO made $0, each of those employees would make a grand total of $85/yr ($0.03/hr) more. Not sure that's going to help anyone at all.
 

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That attitude about workers would be more acceptable if you didn't ignore the huge abuses of executive compensation. THAT'S all justified and appropriate, of course, right?

These were temp jobs. They just notified them that the "temp" part has kicked in. These were not 30 yr employees terminated the day before retirement. And it seems they were hired for the refinance boom which has indeed died down. Outrage not found in this instance.
 

Craig234

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These were temp jobs. They just notified them that the "temp" part has kicked in. These were not 30 yr employees terminated the day before retirement. And it seems they were hired for the refinance boom which has indeed died down. Outrage not found in this instance.

Very fair points. I'm referring to his attitude.
 

Craig234

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Not sure what executive compensation has to do with people whose jobs are no longer necessary.

Maybe you can explain?

Point is, don't be a warrior for cutting worker incomes and fight for the executive income abuses. The US has gone from ~25x worker pay to hundreds - before tax cuts for them.

Business does include laying off unneeded workers - but it also includes not overpaying executives something it's failing badly at. Where's the concern for that?
 

Craig234

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FWIW, I don't have any problem with these layoffs. Big banks' other activities, on the other hand, ya.
 

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That attitude about workers would be more acceptable if you didn't ignore the huge abuses of executive compensation. THAT'S all justified and appropriate, of course, right?

What is stopping you from becoming an executive and receiving slavish compensation?

Work ethic
 

ImpulsE69

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While I have no clue what the CEO makes, I can say that the grunts at Wells make great money. The big problem is there's a very big lack of global communication and direction due to the many unneeded middle management tiers trying to justify their positions. It's scale is just too big and disfunctional and bleeds money as many big companies do.
 

boomerang

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What is stopping you from becoming an executive and receiving slavish compensation?

Work ethic
I always pegged him as a trust fund brat with a HUGE guilt complex. Spawned from a family of limousine liberals that hire illegals to do the gardening which makes them feel they're doing their part on the social justice front.
 

drebo

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Point is, don't be a warrior for cutting worker incomes and fight for the executive income abuses. The US has gone from ~25x worker pay to hundreds - before tax cuts for them.

Business does include laying off unneeded workers - but it also includes not overpaying executives something it's failing badly at. Where's the concern for that?

Again, I don't see what the two have in common.

As stated before, Wells Fargo employs 270,000 people. $23 million/yr to the CEO is $0.03/hr to all other employees. Which, of course, has absolutely nothing to do with laying off employees whose jobs no longer are needed.

Maybe you should volunteer to head a 270,000 employee company for less. I'm sure you could do a wonderful job. Right? Clearly the guy doing it now is just a greedy asshole.
 

IGBT

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with interest rates expected to rise refinancing and real estate activity will dwindle. So they don't need the personal. Maybe they can get part time jobs in the new obama economy selling obama care.
 

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Clearly the guy doing it now is just a greedy asshole.

For the most part, yes.....they all are. Most of them swing on the circle jerk vine of corporate boards where "I'll let you swing off my vine if you let me swing off yours".

But of course, the CEO's cut people and then get pay raises for it. Never fails.
 

Craig234

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with interest rates expected to rise refinancing and real estate activity will dwindle. So they don't need the personal. Maybe they can get part time jobs in the new obama economy selling obama care.

Ya, the economy before Obama was so much better, and tens of millions more with health insurance and other improvements are terrible, aren't they?
 
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