Wendy's to install self-ordering kiosks at 1000 locations

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compuwiz1

Admin Emeritus Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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I love this shit!
"I demand a living wage"
"I demand $15 per hour, for my unskilled burger flipping"
"FU! You're fired-meet your new kiosk replacement!"
 
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Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
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I love this shit!
"I demand a living wage"
"I demand $15 per hour, for my unskilled burger flipping"
"FU! You're fired-meet your new kiosk replacement!"

I'm sure that you're also happy that there will be more people on unemployment and welfare. And when you order slower lines and longer times to get your food.
 

compuwiz1

Admin Emeritus Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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I'm sure that you're also happy that there will be more people on unemployment and welfare. And when you order slower lines and longer times to get your food.

Their fault for making unreasonable demands, not mine. $15 per hour is not a good ROI for that skill level....and I rarely eat that crap anyway. I know people with real skills who barely make that. How are burger flippers entitled?
 

greatnoob

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Their fault for making unreasonable demands, not mine. $15 per hour is not a good ROI for that skill level....and I rarely eat that crap anyway. I know people with real skills who barely make that. How are burger flippers entitled?

ROI??? Wut. You mean MVPL right? It's probably better you don't use terms you're not accustomed to, until then, realise these wages aren't pulled out of some nobody AT poster's anecdotal ass.
 
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agent00f

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Their fault for making unreasonable demands, not mine. $15 per hour is not a good ROI for that skill level....and I rarely eat that crap anyway. I know people with real skills who barely make that. How are burger flippers entitled?

So it's something that doesn't really effect you, yet you deem it necessary to intervene in minimizing someone's standard of living.

Always pretty hilarious when some conservative gets indignant that they're not as degenerate as the facts make them out to be.
 
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compuwiz1

Admin Emeritus Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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ROI??? Wut. You mean MVPL right? It's probably better you don't use terms you're not accustomed to, until then, realise these wages aren't pulled out of some nobody AT poster's anecdotal ass.

Actually, you're right. I was thinking ROI, in terms of how I pay my salary + commission sales people. The rest of what I said stands.
 

compuwiz1

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Oct 9, 1999
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All the displaced workers can get a job in manufacturing. We have been promised this

Expect jobs from the following:
Keystone pipeline
DAPL
The border wall
Rebuilding of the infrastructure
New military jobs, ships and aircraft

There are going to be plenty of jobs coming up in the next year or two. Be happy!
 

UglyCasanova

Lifer
Mar 25, 2001
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Expect jobs from the following:
Keystone pipeline
DAPL
The border wall
Rebuilding of the infrastructure
New military jobs, ships and aircraft

There are going to be plenty of jobs coming up in the next year or two. Be happy!


Not to mention all of those jobs we just absolutely "refuse to do" will be opening up as well.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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Expect jobs from the following:
Keystone pipeline
DAPL
The border wall
Rebuilding of the infrastructure
New military jobs, ships and aircraft

There are going to be plenty of jobs coming up in the next year or two. Be happy!
3/5 government jobs programs. 2/5 from oil.

Nothing listed addresses the outsourcing, in sourcing, or automation of jobs
 
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compuwiz1

Admin Emeritus Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Not to mention all of those jobs we just absolutely "refuse to do" will be opening up as well.

Good systematic farming is just planning, so you can lop the whole fruit tree and send it to market, letting the customer pick the fruit. The next year's trees are behind them and new ones being planted to replace what has been taken. It's the future and we won't need migrant labor to pick apples, cherries, etc.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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Good systematic farming is just planning, so you can lop the whole fruit tree and send it to market, letting the customer pick the fruit. The next year's trees are behind them and new ones being planted to replace what has been taken. It's the future and we won't need migrant labor to pick apples, cherries, etc.


You should genetically engineer the fruits to walk themselves into the bushel. Chopping down fruit trees yearly is incredibly wasteful since they don't fruit for a few years.
 
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K1052

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As somebody in an adjacent business I would put kiosks in if the minimum wage was $5. Technology is so cheap to deploy now that it makes far more sense from basically every angle to use it instead of humans for this kind of work.
 
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K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Expect jobs from the following:
Keystone pipeline
DAPL

A handful of permanent jobs. Like a few dozen between them.

The border wall
Rebuilding of the infrastructure

Congress not seeming too enthused about either of these.

New military jobs, ships and aircraft

Mostly will keep existing production lines open, probably few real new jobs.
 

PokerGuy

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Jul 2, 2005
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The push for automation has been going on much longer than the silly $15 per hour demands by burger flippers, but those demands are sure to hasten the process. Simple economics: the higher the cost of labor, the money you will spend to automate to reduce your expenses.

I guess it's somewhat of a cautionary tale. There's been a lot of hubbub about $15 per hour for essentially menial jobs. Supply and demand have prevented that from happening, but the agitation has led to an increase in the drive to automate away those jobs. So now the workers essentially got a double whammy: they didn't get the $15 per hour they demanded, and they will lose the jobs they have to automation sooner than before.
 

Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Expect jobs from the following:
Keystone pipeline
DAPL
The border wall
Rebuilding of the infrastructure
New military jobs, ships and aircraft

There are going to be plenty of jobs coming up in the next year or two. Be happy!

Oh, so you mean Jack fucking shit.

You forgot to add coal miner jobs to that fairy tale wish list.
 
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brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
26,674
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First they automated the factory jobs and I laughed. Then they automated the restraunt jobs and I laughed. Then they automated the transportation jobs and I laughed.

Then there was no one employed to buy my products and it wasn't funny anymore.
 
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realibrad

Lifer
Oct 18, 2013
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So it's something that doesn't really effect you, yet you deem it necessary to intervene in minimizing someone's standard of living.

Always pretty hilarious when some conservative gets indignant that they're not as degenerate as the facts make them out to be.

How is he being conservative here? He is literally advocating for a change in the current system. That is by definition antithetical to a conservative position.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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First they automated the factory jobs and I laughed. Then they automated the restraunt jobs and I laughed. Then they automated the transportation jobs and I laughed.

Then there was no one employed to buy my products and it wasn't funny anymore.

Just wait until they start automating Forum Posts!
 

Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
10,652
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Embracing the Kiosk Revolution
April 1, 2008

Welcome to 2008: WAWA


Much like self-service checkouts, foodservice kiosks give c-store operators an opportunity to speed service, allocate labor dollars more efficiently, upsell menu items and reduce order errors. And while most players continue to adopt a wait-and-see attitude, many are already moving forward.

Basically Wendy's and the other major FF chains are just behind the curve. Self serve kiosks have been in use for quite some time and have allowed nontraditional chains like WAWA (convenience stores/ gas stations) to move into the FF market without massive capital and human investments.

WAWA uses sandwich kiosks, and a couple sandwich makers, to drive traffic into the rest of their business.

So again, nothing to do with $15/hr. Already happening.
#alternativefacts
 
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realibrad

Lifer
Oct 18, 2013
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First they automated the factory jobs and I laughed. Then they automated the restraunt jobs and I laughed. Then they automated the transportation jobs and I laughed.

Then there was no one employed to buy my products and it wasn't funny anymore.

So what automation do you keep? Do we go back to a China style to make cars? If not, then what?
 
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