African countries, both christian and muslim quite literally have laws on the books that allow for execution of homosexuals. This is very largely driven by religion.
You haven't the foggiest idea what you're talking about.
Except you cannot read. The original statement said "bible" which is very specific. Throwing "muslim" in there shows a lack comprehension. There are very few people killing because of the "bible". Quran? hell yes.
I bet he is right, in general. You're using old data and also using a lack of church attendance in the Soviet Union as a counterpoint. I bet the people there would have attended church had their oppressive government had a different outlook on religion.
The Soviet Union was the first state to have as an ideological objective the elimination of religion. Toward that end, the Communist regime confiscated church property, ridiculed religion, harassed believers, and propagated atheism in the schools. Actions toward particular religions, however, were determined by State interests, and most organized religions were never outlawed.
Now today, a lot more consider themselves christian.
Children would also rather eat pudding/ice cream and drink soda all day.
I don't know of many children brought up properly that don't care about God or Jesus nor rebel against their parents for having to go to church.
Sounds like the right roots weren't put down to begin with.
Whether dark matter exists is not "meaningless". You are a troll. Quit while you're ahead.
There are so many questions that science cannot address using the sceintific method that it's really silly to say they're "meaningless".
Can science answer the following questions:
Is there a best way to raise my kids? If so, what is it?
Who would make the best marrige partner?
Exactly what time will my wife make it home from work today?
Is it wrong to look at porn?
Guys looking into micrscopes with labcoats on cannot produce an answer to these questions through experiments, yet, these questions are totally meaningful.
My point is broader, that religion in general is bad for humanity and causes pain and suffering to many people. Why do you discount what ThinClient and I posted about laws on the books in African countries that allow for the execution of people based on who they have sex with?
I've posted this in a different thread before, maybe you haven't seen it. People do die directly because of the teachings in the bible.
Anybody who can read knows there's a huge difference between what the Bible teaches vs the Quran, or Jesus vs Muhammad.
Your link is about a movie meant to sensationalize homosexuals, so what? People die in the US for being gay because people pretending to be Christians (they're not) will beat them up. It's been this way for awhile, Uganda is not special in that it has violent people who also claim to be Christian and kill. This is how the crusades happened. It's very clear in the Bible that homosexuality is like any other sin but you don't see alcoholics or gamblers or liars getting killed or beat up as much. Jesus/God would never approve of such behavior and would in fact embrace homosexuals.
There are so many questions that science cannot address using the sceintific method that it's really silly to say they're "meaningless".
Can science answer the following questions:
Is there a best way to raise my kids? If so, what is it?
Who would make the best marrige partner?
Exactly what time will my wife make it home from work today?
Is it wrong to look at porn?
Guys looking into micrscopes with labcoats on cannot produce an answer to these questions through experiments, yet, these questions are totally meaningful.
In what way do you think that this answers my question?I stand corrected, "objectively meaningless".
What have I declared meaningless, Rob?Point remains, declaring something "meaningless" becasue contemporary science cannot answer the question is itself unscientific.
What answer, Rob? Just because you can ask a question like "what does purple smell like?" doesn't mean that it must have an answer, nor that if science cannot answer the question, that it must be a shortcoming of science.No, what I basically said was "find another way to get the answer".
Believing a falsehood.What are you afraid of?
Who has spoken about dark matter?Whether dark matter exists is not "meaningless".
When you demonstrate a certain minimum level of cognizance I'll begin to take your opinions with at least some seriousness. Apparently that won't be happening today, unfortunately.You are a troll. Quit while you're ahead.
Church activity is also very active in the U.S., stop using subjective terms like "active".
From wiki: Gallup estimated the once-a-week church attendance of the Americans in 2013 as 39%.[7] This compares to other countries claims such as 15% of French citizens, 10% of UK citizens,[3] and 7.5% of Australian citizens.[4]
Based on 1990-1991 data, it was estimated that the country with the highest rate of church attendance in the world was Nigeria (89%) and with the lowest - the Soviet Union (2%).[8]
So the highest attendance is a poor African country and the lowest is a crumbling and poorer former superpower, with the rich US in between. Based on these facts, your generalizations don't indicate any trend at all. If anything, the only trend we can derive is that the more liberal and socialist a country becomes, the less it attends Church as shown in European countries. If anything, this could affect the US if it becomes more liberal and socialist in the future.
Being a former Catholic, I know one has to attend church once a week else it is considered a sin. So I don't get how people think they can attend whenever the fuck they want. It always bothered me the difference in attendance between the holidays and regular mass. I get it, but apparently other people do not.So my wife and I went to church for the first time in a long time the other weekend. We are not particularly religious people, though we each consider ourselves to be Christian. Main reason for going is because our kids (now 5 and 2) had never set foot in a church, and we both feel that it is important for them to have some religious foundation and a belief in something bigger than humanity.
Anyway it had been almost 10 years since I went to a "regular" church service (i.e., one that was not tied to a major christian holiday).
Not only that, they probably never go to confessional. The hypocrisy of others was one of the reasons I gave it up. I didn't want to be associated with people like that.I remember being most turned off from church as soon as I was old enough to realize everyone who goes is a hypocrite and just does what they want anyway, save for the old people.