Westinghouse L2410NM vs. Soyo DYLM24D6

[toadeater]

Originally posted by: LiquidX
http://i224.photobucket.com/al...252/fsft_album/2-2.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/al...252/fsft_album/1-1.jpg

Heh, I'm using that wallpaper too. I'm using a CRT, so this was an interesting comparison.

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: lilbabimac
Yeah, I know EXACTLY how you feel man. But I was thinking, from the people who reported having no buzzing sounds, do you think they just don't notice it? From what people were saying about the "problem," you'd expect to hear this noticeable, loud buzzing sound when in actuality, it's fairly quiet and drowned out by ambient noises. Just like I was saying with my Soyo - I've read that this monitor has buzzing noise problems too, but the buzzing sound might actually be what I'm hearing when I put my ear right next to it. You should probably ask adiv about it and compare it to the sound you're hearing from your monitor.

Either I'm going deaf (my hearing as far as I know is pristine) or mine isn't buzzing. Not a quiet buzzing, I'm talking I'm sticking my ear right on this thing and don't hear the slightest noise.

 

[lilbabimac]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux

Originally posted by: lilbabimac
Yeah, I know EXACTLY how you feel man. But I was thinking, from the people who reported having no buzzing sounds, do you think they just don't notice it? From what people were saying about the "problem," you'd expect to hear this noticeable, loud buzzing sound when in actuality, it's fairly quiet and drowned out by ambient noises. Just like I was saying with my Soyo - I've read that this monitor has buzzing noise problems too, but the buzzing sound might actually be what I'm hearing when I put my ear right next to it. You should probably ask adiv about it and compare it to the sound you're hearing from your monitor.

Either I'm going deaf (my hearing as far as I know is pristine) or mine isn't buzzing. Not a quiet buzzing, I'm talking I'm sticking my ear right on this thing and don't hear the slightest noise.

Hmm, so maybe it IS a defect then?

 

[LiquidX]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux

Originally posted by: lilbabimac
Yeah, I know EXACTLY how you feel man. But I was thinking, from the people who reported having no buzzing sounds, do you think they just don't notice it? From what people were saying about the "problem," you'd expect to hear this noticeable, loud buzzing sound when in actuality, it's fairly quiet and drowned out by ambient noises. Just like I was saying with my Soyo - I've read that this monitor has buzzing noise problems too, but the buzzing sound might actually be what I'm hearing when I put my ear right next to it. You should probably ask adiv about it and compare it to the sound you're hearing from your monitor.

Either I'm going deaf (my hearing as far as I know is pristine) or mine isn't buzzing. Not a quiet buzzing, I'm talking I'm sticking my ear right on this thing and don't hear the slightest noise.

Is the brightness below 98? I only here it when I go below that.

Originally posted by: lilbabimac

Originally posted by: LiquidX
Its a very low pitched hum. Not very loud but very noticeable when brightness is lower the 100. I think I found a solution in just messing with the video card contrast and brightness of the monitor but I still don't like the idea of having to have the brightness at 100 to get rid of the buzzing. Other than that its damn perfect compared to my Nec/Mitsubishi CRT which also made a low pitch noise for awhile. Its a very worthy upgrade coming from that CRT but I'm still not sure if I should consider the humming a defect and return it.

Going read up some more to see if there is a solution or something I have to live with if I keep it. I think I can get use to it if I can my case fans. Its not that it bothersome but I would still prefer it not buzzing.

How is the buzzing? Find a solution to it yet?

Still no solution. Many others have the same problem so I don't know if I should just live with it or send it back and risk getting the same thing and other problems. It is otherwise a perfect monitor in view compared to my CRT and other LCDs I have tried.

Guess I will decide by Monday if I should get Newegg a ring or not.

 

[soccerballtux]

I have my brightness at 40.

 

[lilbabimac]

Originally posted by: LiquidX

Originally posted by: soccerballtux

Originally posted by: lilbabimac
Yeah, I know EXACTLY how you feel man. But I was thinking, from the people who reported having no buzzing sounds, do you think they just don't notice it? From what people were saying about the "problem," you'd expect to hear this noticeable, loud buzzing sound when in actuality, it's fairly quiet and drowned out by ambient noises. Just like I was saying with my Soyo - I've read that this monitor has buzzing noise problems too, but the buzzing sound might actually be what I'm hearing when I put my ear right next to it. You should probably ask adiv about it and compare it to the sound you're hearing from your monitor.

Either I'm going deaf (my hearing as far as I know is pristine) or mine isn't buzzing. Not a quiet buzzing, I'm talking I'm sticking my ear right on this thing and don't hear the slightest noise.

Is the brightness below 98? I only here it when I go below that.

Originally posted by: lilbabimac

Originally posted by: LiquidX
Its a very low pitched hum. Not very loud but very noticeable when brightness is lower the 100. I think I found a solution in just messing with the video card contrast and brightness of the monitor but I still don't like the idea of having to have the brightness at 100 to get rid of the buzzing. Other than that its damn perfect compared to my Nec/Mitsubishi CRT which also made a low pitch noise for awhile. Its a very worthy upgrade coming from that CRT but I'm still not sure if I should consider the humming a defect and return it.

Going read up some more to see if there is a solution or something I have to live with if I keep it. I think I can get use to it if I can my case fans. Its not that it bothersome but I would still prefer it not buzzing.

How is the buzzing? Find a solution to it yet?

Still no solution. Many others have the same problem so I don't know if I should just live with it or send it back and risk getting the same thing and other problems. It is otherwise a perfect monitor in view compared to my CRT and other LCDs I have tried.

Guess I will decide by Monday if I should get Newegg a ring or not.

If you can tolerate the sound, I say just keep it. You never know what you're gonna get with the replacement monitor and you might even run into more problems. But then again, if the sound is driving you crazy and you wanna roll the dice, go for it.

 

[lilbabimac]

I just setup the Westy monitor and man, this is a beautiful looking monitor. And liquid, I get that buzzing sound too when I go below 98 in brightness. It's a lot louder than I thought it would be and is definitely noticeable. I wouldn't be able to stand that sound if it was audible all the time, but I figure I can mess with the brightness through my graphic card's settings. I JUST set this thing up so I need to see if I run into any other problems.

Update:

I changed the brightness to 60 and at first, it was buzzing, but after leaving at that brightness for a bit, the buzzing went away. So maybe the buzzing happens during the initial change and the monitor gets "used" to the brightness... I don't know. Right now, when I changed the brightness again, the buzzing sound came back on. What I did was went back to 100, the buzzing stopped, then went back down to 50 (where I like it at), turned off the monitor and turned it back on and the buzzing is gone. Maybe you wanna give that a shot liquid and let me know how it goes.

 

[bigsnyder]

Many are reporting that the X241W sold at Best Buy are S-PVA panels. There is some discussion on this at Fatwallet and
hardforum.

 

[lilbabimac]

Originally posted by: bigsnyder
Many are reporting that the X241W sold at Best Buy are S-PVA panels. There is some discussion on this at Fatwallet and
hardforum.

It's actually the AMVA panel by AUOptronics. A guy over at hardforum cracked his open.

 

[LiquidX]

Originally posted by: lilbabimac
I just setup the Westy monitor and man, this is a beautiful looking monitor. And liquid, I get that buzzing sound too when I go below 98 in brightness. It's a lot louder than I thought it would be and is definitely noticeable. I wouldn't be able to stand that sound if it was audible all the time, but I figure I can mess with the brightness through my graphic card's settings. I JUST set this thing up so I need to see if I run into any other problems.

Update:

I changed the brightness to 60 and at first, it was buzzing, but after leaving at that brightness for a bit, the buzzing went away. So maybe the buzzing happens during the initial change and the monitor gets "used" to the brightness... I don't know. Right now, when I changed the brightness again, the buzzing sound came back on. What I did was went back to 100, the buzzing stopped, then went back down to 50 (where I like it at), turned off the monitor and turned it back on and the buzzing is gone. Maybe you wanna give that a shot liquid and let me know how it goes.

Nope. Buzzing is still there no matter what setting. I may invest in the HDMI-DVI cable to see if that solves the problem but I'm really starting to hate it. Its otherwise a damn perfect monitor but it sucks this got past Q&A. What crazy is that my PC fan is louder but this annoys me more.

 

[lilbabimac]

Originally posted by: LiquidX

Originally posted by: lilbabimac
I just setup the Westy monitor and man, this is a beautiful looking monitor. And liquid, I get that buzzing sound too when I go below 98 in brightness. It's a lot louder than I thought it would be and is definitely noticeable. I wouldn't be able to stand that sound if it was audible all the time, but I figure I can mess with the brightness through my graphic card's settings. I JUST set this thing up so I need to see if I run into any other problems.

Update:

I changed the brightness to 60 and at first, it was buzzing, but after leaving at that brightness for a bit, the buzzing went away. So maybe the buzzing happens during the initial change and the monitor gets "used" to the brightness... I don't know. Right now, when I changed the brightness again, the buzzing sound came back on. What I did was went back to 100, the buzzing stopped, then went back down to 50 (where I like it at), turned off the monitor and turned it back on and the buzzing is gone. Maybe you wanna give that a shot liquid and let me know how it goes.

Nope. Buzzing is still there no matter what setting. I may invest in the HDMI-DVI cable to see if that solves the problem but I'm really starting to hate it. Its otherwise a damn perfect monitor but it sucks this got past Q&A. What crazy is that my PC fan is louder but this annoys me more.

Well, here's an update with my Westy: With the buzzing sound, I realized that when I drop below 98 brightness, a somewhat high pitched buzzing sound goes off. Then after I adjust the brightness to the setting I like, turn off the monitor, then turn it back on again, the buzzing will be more low pitched but still a buzzing sound nonetheless. The only time it's absolutely silent is when it's 98-100 for brightness. Like you said Liquid, the monitor is perfect otherwise; it's just the buzzing sound can get annoying if and when the room is silent.

 

[LiquidX]

Is it a deal breaker for you or you think you can overlook that flaw? I'm still not sure yet and seeing as so many have this problem I doubt setting up a RMA would get me a buzzless one.

 

[lilbabimac]

Nope, not really a deal breaker for me cuz I was expecting it to an extent (of course I was hoping I wouldn't have the "problem" though). I have the option of exchanging it since I bought it locally, but I don't even want the chance of dealing with a monitor that might have other problems. And yeah, like you said, a lot of people seem to be experiencing the buzzing sound. I think for those saying they don't hear anything, it might either be cuz of somewhat loud ambient noises or they just think that's how the monitor is supposed to sound. I say this cuz when I was using the laptop right next to the monitor, I didn't hear the buzzing; I just thought all the sounds were coming from my laptop (laptop fan is loud). When I turned off my laptop though, I immediately noticed the buzzing. But who knows? Maybe this is a problem, maybe it's not... I did some googling and it seems like other LCD's make buzzing noises too. I guess it could just be a common thing with some LCD's.

 

[hans007]

oh a deal breaker for me on the westinghouse is the it doesnt power save on hdmi.

at least from reading newegg reviews that seems to be the case.

i just leave my monitor on all the time and let windows power management power it down and that would be annoying if it didnt actually power it down

 

[lilbabimac]

Originally posted by: hans007
oh a deal breaker for me on the westinghouse is the it doesnt power save on hdmi.

at least from reading newegg reviews that seems to be the case.

i just leave my monitor on all the time and let windows power management power it down and that would be annoying if it didnt actually power it down

Haha how hard is it to just push the power button to turn it off? I don't know about you, but I'm not willing to pay anywhere from $100-300 more for that option.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: lilbabimac

Originally posted by: hans007
oh a deal breaker for me on the westinghouse is the it doesnt power save on hdmi.

at least from reading newegg reviews that seems to be the case.

i just leave my monitor on all the time and let windows power management power it down and that would be annoying if it didnt actually power it down

Haha how hard is it to just push the power button to turn it off? I don't know about you, but I'm not willing to pay anywhere from $100-300 more for that option.

well sometimes i just forget. i wouldnt want to like be checking my mail in the morning forget about it and then go off to my office and have my monitor displaying a static image all day.

theres other monitors that are $300 (like the soyo) that do have a working power save.

 

[lilbabimac]

Originally posted by: hans007

Originally posted by: lilbabimac

Originally posted by: hans007
oh a deal breaker for me on the westinghouse is the it doesnt power save on hdmi.

at least from reading newegg reviews that seems to be the case.

i just leave my monitor on all the time and let windows power management power it down and that would be annoying if it didnt actually power it down

Haha how hard is it to just push the power button to turn it off? I don't know about you, but I'm not willing to pay anywhere from $100-300 more for that option.

well sometimes i just forget. i wouldnt want to like be checking my mail in the morning forget about it and then go off to my office and have my monitor displaying a static image all day.

theres other monitors that are $300 (like the soyo) that do have a working power save.

Yeah, but the Soyo doesn't have as many inputs as the Westy. Also, the quality control on the Soyo is pretty bad from what I've read and experienced personally. I'd much rather have this Westy for it's inputs, better looks, and better picture (from comparing side by side with Soyo). It's all personal preferences though... I'm just speaking on my behalf.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: lilbabimac

Originally posted by: hans007

Originally posted by: lilbabimac

Originally posted by: hans007
oh a deal breaker for me on the westinghouse is the it doesnt power save on hdmi.

at least from reading newegg reviews that seems to be the case.

i just leave my monitor on all the time and let windows power management power it down and that would be annoying if it didnt actually power it down

Haha how hard is it to just push the power button to turn it off? I don't know about you, but I'm not willing to pay anywhere from $100-300 more for that option.

well sometimes i just forget. i wouldnt want to like be checking my mail in the morning forget about it and then go off to my office and have my monitor displaying a static image all day.

theres other monitors that are $300 (like the soyo) that do have a working power save.

Yeah, but the Soyo doesn't have as many inputs as the Westy. Also, the quality control on the Soyo is pretty bad from what I've read and experienced personally. I'd much rather have this Westy for it's inputs, better looks, and better picture (from comparing side by side with Soyo). It's all personal preferences though... I'm just speaking on my behalf.

true that, my friend has the soyo and it is one ugly monitor. he doesnt care, but yeah i wouldnt get it since i am vain like that hahah. plus he had to buy 2 of them to get one that worked right. i know from someone in the industry that soyo is uh, cash wise running on fumes too so i wouldnt count on the warranty lasting all that long

 

[lilbabimac]

Originally posted by: hans007

Originally posted by: lilbabimac

Originally posted by: hans007

Originally posted by: lilbabimac

Originally posted by: hans007
oh a deal breaker for me on the westinghouse is the it doesnt power save on hdmi.

at least from reading newegg reviews that seems to be the case.

i just leave my monitor on all the time and let windows power management power it down and that would be annoying if it didnt actually power it down

Haha how hard is it to just push the power button to turn it off? I don't know about you, but I'm not willing to pay anywhere from $100-300 more for that option.

well sometimes i just forget. i wouldnt want to like be checking my mail in the morning forget about it and then go off to my office and have my monitor displaying a static image all day.

theres other monitors that are $300 (like the soyo) that do have a working power save.

Yeah, but the Soyo doesn't have as many inputs as the Westy. Also, the quality control on the Soyo is pretty bad from what I've read and experienced personally. I'd much rather have this Westy for it's inputs, better looks, and better picture (from comparing side by side with Soyo). It's all personal preferences though... I'm just speaking on my behalf.

true that, my friend has the soyo and it is one ugly monitor. he doesnt care, but yeah i wouldnt get it since i am vain like that hahah. plus he had to buy 2 of them to get one that worked right. i know from someone in the industry that soyo is uh, cash wise running on fumes too so i wouldnt count on the warranty lasting all that long

Oh really? Man, that's not good news for Soyo owners then.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: lilbabimac

Originally posted by: hans007

Originally posted by: lilbabimac

Originally posted by: hans007

Originally posted by: lilbabimac

Originally posted by: hans007
oh a deal breaker for me on the westinghouse is the it doesnt power save on hdmi.

at least from reading newegg reviews that seems to be the case.

i just leave my monitor on all the time and let windows power management power it down and that would be annoying if it didnt actually power it down

Haha how hard is it to just push the power button to turn it off? I don't know about you, but I'm not willing to pay anywhere from $100-300 more for that option.

well sometimes i just forget. i wouldnt want to like be checking my mail in the morning forget about it and then go off to my office and have my monitor displaying a static image all day.

theres other monitors that are $300 (like the soyo) that do have a working power save.

Yeah, but the Soyo doesn't have as many inputs as the Westy. Also, the quality control on the Soyo is pretty bad from what I've read and experienced personally. I'd much rather have this Westy for it's inputs, better looks, and better picture (from comparing side by side with Soyo). It's all personal preferences though... I'm just speaking on my behalf.

true that, my friend has the soyo and it is one ugly monitor. he doesnt care, but yeah i wouldnt get it since i am vain like that hahah. plus he had to buy 2 of them to get one that worked right. i know from someone in the industry that soyo is uh, cash wise running on fumes too so i wouldnt count on the warranty lasting all that long

Oh really? Man, that's not good news for Soyo owners then.

yeah well the person i know works at one of their suppliers and i guess they are worried about soyo's ability to actually pay them for components that are on credit.

a lot of smaller manufacturers run into this problem though... soyo is still pretty new, but when huge amounts of monitors get returned especially in retail the losses start to pile up since they lose money on those returned ones or ones that require warranty replacements etc.

quality does acutally pay off inthe long run for the company too. but launching a monitor at a super low price that you cut corners on gets you market share right away.

 

[lilbabimac]

Originally posted by: hans007

Originally posted by: lilbabimac

Originally posted by: hans007

Originally posted by: lilbabimac

Originally posted by: hans007

Originally posted by: lilbabimac

Originally posted by: hans007
oh a deal breaker for me on the westinghouse is the it doesnt power save on hdmi.

at least from reading newegg reviews that seems to be the case.

i just leave my monitor on all the time and let windows power management power it down and that would be annoying if it didnt actually power it down

Haha how hard is it to just push the power button to turn it off? I don't know about you, but I'm not willing to pay anywhere from $100-300 more for that option.

well sometimes i just forget. i wouldnt want to like be checking my mail in the morning forget about it and then go off to my office and have my monitor displaying a static image all day.

theres other monitors that are $300 (like the soyo) that do have a working power save.

Yeah, but the Soyo doesn't have as many inputs as the Westy. Also, the quality control on the Soyo is pretty bad from what I've read and experienced personally. I'd much rather have this Westy for it's inputs, better looks, and better picture (from comparing side by side with Soyo). It's all personal preferences though... I'm just speaking on my behalf.

true that, my friend has the soyo and it is one ugly monitor. he doesnt care, but yeah i wouldnt get it since i am vain like that hahah. plus he had to buy 2 of them to get one that worked right. i know from someone in the industry that soyo is uh, cash wise running on fumes too so i wouldnt count on the warranty lasting all that long

Oh really? Man, that's not good news for Soyo owners then.

yeah well the person i know works at one of their suppliers and i guess they are worried about soyo's ability to actually pay them for components that are on credit.

a lot of smaller manufacturers run into this problem though... soyo is still pretty new, but when huge amounts of monitors get returned especially in retail the losses start to pile up since they lose money on those returned ones or ones that require warranty replacements etc.

quality does acutally pay off inthe long run for the company too. but launching a monitor at a super low price that you cut corners on gets you market share right away.

But now they're paying for it by cutting those corners; no pun intended.

 

[lilbabimac]

BB is having this monitor on sale for $360. Just a heads up for anyone interested.

 

[Ashen Shugar]

Originally posted by: toadeater

Originally posted by: LiquidX
http://i224.photobucket.com/al...252/fsft_album/2-2.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/al...252/fsft_album/1-1.jpg

Heh, I'm using that wallpaper too. I'm using a CRT, so this was an interesting comparison.

That is a cool wallpaper... any chance I could get a link for it? Thanks

 

[LiquidX]

Originally posted by: Ashen Shugar

Originally posted by: toadeater

Originally posted by: LiquidX
http://i224.photobucket.com/al...252/fsft_album/2-2.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/al...252/fsft_album/1-1.jpg

Heh, I'm using that wallpaper too. I'm using a CRT, so this was an interesting comparison.

That is a cool wallpaper... any chance I could get a link for it? Thanks

Here you go. Its great wallpaper and reminds me of I am Legend though I had it about two years before the film came out.
http://rapidshare.com/files/89...515791180547396364.jpg

 

[TheDrake]

Originally posted by: lilbabimac
BB is having this monitor on sale for $360. Just a heads up for anyone interested.

pretty nice price, especially if you have a 10/12% coupon to drop it down to $324 plus tax. I didnt read it in this thread but is this westy HDCP compliant?