WestWorld: Season 2 (4/22/2018)

[K1052]

is Man in Black a host?
he healed his gunshot wound with a dermal regenerator that instantly repairs hosts

The medical tech works on humans too, its been shown. Which makes sense since the modern hosts are artificial biological constructs using human DNA.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

Spoiler: hmm

I increasingly think that the whole thing is going to come down to a conflict between Delores and Maeve. Their philosophies are clearly evolving into diametric opposites. Maeve can never be really free if Delores is hell bent on taking everything and bending everyone to her will.

Bernard/Arnold might well be the person who tips the balance though, maybe thats what Ford intends.

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A theory I’ve heard that I really like is that the park is still split between Arnold and Ford. Maeve is an agent of ‘light’ following Arnold and his idea of being better than humans ever were, and Dolores is an agent of ‘darkness’ following Ford and his idea that humans are doomed by their own sins anyway

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IIRC his core marble looked to be more silvery/black (the red lighting in the CR4-DL kind of throws it off). Not a white marble for host or a red marble for a human pattern. Maybe some kind of one off hybrid Ford invented to solve the stability problem and so creating someone who isn't quite Arnold and not quite Bernard in the process.

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Wait when have we seen a hosts core? I just assumed they looked the same as Bernard’s. Red is for sure human though

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We still don't know what Will buried in the park, yet. I don't entirely buy that his daughter is there for only the reasons she's stating. The differing recollection about the elephants in Raj world is most curious. Maybe it was a test but who failed it seems an open question.

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I’ll bet money it has something to do with th cradle. I also agree it was a test but we don’t know who failed

is Man in Black a host?
he healed his gunshot wound with a dermal regenerator that instantly repairs hosts

Nah, Sylvester got his slashed throat healed by one too in S1.

 

[K1052]

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A theory I’ve heard that I really like is that the park is still split between Arnold and Ford. Maeve is an agent of ‘light’ following Arnold and his idea of being better than humans ever were, and Dolores is an agent of ‘darkness’ following Ford and his idea that humans are doomed by their own sins anyway

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Wait when have we seen a hosts core? I just assumed they looked the same as Bernard’s. Red is for sure human though

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I’ll bet money it has something to do with th cradle. I also agree it was a test but we don’t know who failed

Nah, Sylvester got his slashed throat healed by one too in S1.

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That's certainly possible though I think Bernold (as good as anything to call him IMO) will have to make some major decision that tilts the balance of their conflict.

I thought we've seen a white marble already but I admit I could be wrong. Would still seem to follow that the marble is the same color as the casing.

 

[Skel]

so bernards brain is different than regular hosts.
wonder who else has these

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red

brains

.

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When did we see any host 'brain' beyond the white shell. I had thought that was the brain until they ripped it out of Bernard's head. Not saying he doesn't have an upgraded brain, he did have very expanded capabilities, but until we see a normal host brain we'll never know

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I'm not convinced that the elephant conversation was as much a test as it was an intended reflection point that William had gotten too far involved in the "fake world" and the "real world" memories were starting to be erased. But between alternative timelines and the intentional vagueness that the writers are leaving it's really hard to put a finger on where they are going with these two.

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I took it that he was so checked out from his family because he was a bastard. He didn't care enough to remember/know which one was afraid of elephants. It seemed like the core on why his kid hates (hated?) him so much.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

I liked how she got an analogous MFer to Lawrence

 

[Bubbleawsome]

So this latest episode was really something. Only this show could answer so much and still leave us with so many questions.
Also,

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Maybe RIP Lawrence, Clem, and Abernathy. If Lawrence real dies I'm not sure I can handle it. For sure RIP to Angela though, she'll be missed with her awesome crown of bones.

 

[JEDI]

wtf that merc squad leader doesn't shoot the host on sight after other Hosts kill most of his squad?
he gives her the option of dropping the gun??

wtf!??!

questions:
1) What happened to Mauve's posse?
last episode, she and her daughter were being chased by the Indians.
then Mauve's Japanese archer shoots one of the Indians.
mauve and daughter run on foot.

this episode, mauve and daughter still on foot, finds a hiding spot in a small house.
mauve makes a speech, then gunfire, more running around, then more gunfire.
her posse is nowhere to be found?!?!

2) why

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so many copies

of Bernard?
if you can easily fix Hosts with a dermal regenerator, then if Bernard 'dies' why not just easily fix him?

3) body armor doesn't work on this show?
i can understand if using machine guns but Teddy was mowing down mercs using pistols

 

[Bubbleawsome]

wtf that merc squad leader doesn't shoot the host on sight after other Hosts kill most of his squad?
he gives her the option of dropping the gun??

wtf!??!

questions:
1) What happened to Mauve's posse?
last episode, she and her daughter were being chased by the Indians.
then Mauve's Japanese archer shoots one of the Indians.
mauve and daughter run on foot.

this episode, mauve and daughter still on foot, finds a hiding spot in a small house.
mauve makes a speech, then gunfire, more running around, then more gunfire.
her posse is nowhere to be found?!?!

2) why

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so many copies

of Bernard?
if you can easily fix Hosts with a dermal regenerator, then if Bernard 'dies' why not just easily fix him?

3) body armor doesn't work on this show?
i can understand if using machine guns but Teddy was mowing down mercs using pistols

Yeah I don't get the Angela thing either. Pretty bad writing imo.
1) Maybe they heard about Sizemore's call to security and bailed? Hope Felix is ok.
2)

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I think they were previous build they had while perfecting him. A few are the mechanical kind that open their face so they're old for sure

3) MLG xXxT3dd1nAT0RxXx headshots only. His punches were terrifying too.

A lyric from the subreddit -

I miss the old Teddy, first episode Teddy
Step off the train Teddy, but then get slain Teddy
I hate the new Teddy, the bad mood Teddy
The simply crude Teddy, one deadly dude Teddy
I miss the sweet Teddy, flirt in the street Teddy
I gotta say, at that time I’d like to meet Teddy

 

[Mandres]

This show feels like a huge wasted opportunity to me. It's beautifully made, but the story is so disjointed and nonsensical that it doesn't really grab hold. I never really know what's going on or how one scene relates to the others in the narrative, so I stop trying to understand it. I'm not sure what the writer(s) was going for but it's a complete mess.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

I kinda agree this season. With really smart people figuring out most of season 1 by the 3rd or 4th episode they really wanted to trick them this time, but I feel like they've left everyone else behind a little bit. Hoping season 3 is a little easier to follow in an episode a week format. I think this season would be ok to binge.

 

[Thebobo]

I haven't watched a single one this season all recorded will binge on a rainy weekend.

 

[Exterous]

wtf that merc squad leader doesn't shoot the host on sight after other Hosts kill most of his squad?
he gives her the option of dropping the gun??

wtf!??!

Yeah that was absolutely horrid writing. With all the interesting writing in the show that was unexpectedly bad

 

[JEDI]

3) MLG xXxT3dd1nAT0RxXx headshots only. His punches were terrifying too.

A lyric from the subreddit -

I miss the old Teddy, first episode Teddy
Step off the train Teddy, but then get slain Teddy
I hate the new Teddy, the bad mood Teddy
The simply crude Teddy, one deadly dude Teddy
I miss the sweet Teddy, flirt in the street Teddy
I gotta say, at that time I’d like to meet Teddy

speaking of Teddy, why did Delores lore him into the barn to reprogram him?

Why couldn't she have the tech do it while he was asleep?
Also, why didn't she reboot Teddy after he was reprogrammed?

 

[Skel]

speaking of Teddy, why did Delores lore him into the barn to reprogram him?

Why couldn't she have the tech do it while he was asleep?
Also, why didn't she reboot Teddy after he was reprogrammed?

Because it's TV, and every time you do something in TV you have to have a monologue on it. They've also shown they can update the hosts without rebooting them before.

 

[ultimatebob]

Ya know, this show is starting to remind me of The Walking Dead. They give you just enough backstory on a character to make you feel some sympathy for them, and then they mercilessly kill them off.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

What a heavy, heavy episode. Only time I can remember watching TV and just going 'oof' under my breath.

Spoiler: S2E9

The look on Ed Harris face when he realizes what he's done, and later when he get's off the horse. He's a powerful actor. And the actual shooting about made my heart drop straight out. And then Teddy choosing death over following Dolores was great too.

 

[Aharami]

What a heavy, heavy episode. Only time I can remember watching TV and just going 'oof' under my breath.

Spoiler: S2E9

The look on Ed Harris face when he realizes what he's done, and later when he get's off the horse. He's a powerful actor. And the actual shooting about made my heart drop straight out. And then Teddy choosing death over following Dolores was great too.

yea they set up that tone from the monologue voiceover at the beginning.

 

[Skel]

I figured they'd have to deal with the idea that someone could, (and probably happens way too much) lose themselves in the 'what's real?/matrix/is this the real world?' drama. I'm not sure I like that it's him as he's always been highly focused and driven to the point of scary. While I can still see this turning out that he was right and it was a Ford game, I'm not sure the payout would be worth it at this point... but then I'm not sure any payout is going to be worth it this season. They really haven't done anything major.. unless there are multiple Bernards running around and what we think is time bounce sometimes isn't.. that would be worth it.. but barely..

 

[Bubbleawsome]

I don't think him being driven conflicts with what's he's done here at all. He's always had a questionable grip on handling his own reality. Especially after the Ford kids earlier this season I think he fit his own character very well. He also knows his biggest enemy is getting closer and closer to his own goals, and that any delays could make him lose the 'game'.

 

[ohtwell]

I have enjoyed season 2 and am excited about the finale. I don’t care as much about Delores’ arc at the moment. I’ve been more interested in watching all the other characters. Maeve is amazing! I also enjoyed the episode about Akecheta.

: ) Amanda

 

[rumpleforeskin]

Just finished Season 2 Episode 5 and I'm not sure I'll finish the season. The story has become a directionless mess. Did they change the writing team between S1 & S2?

The first season was much more thought provoking and better paced, after 5 episodes of this season it feels like nothing but gunfights and no story progression

On a plus side the Camera work, sound and costumes are fantastic.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

Just finished Season 2 Episode 5 and I'm not sure I'll finish the season. The story has become a directionless mess. Did they change the writing team between S1 & S2?

The first season was much more thought provoking and better paced, after 5 episodes of this season it feels like nothing but gunfights and no story progression

On a plus side the Camera work, sound and costumes are fantastic.

If you didn't like ep5 I can't say for sure you'll like the rest of the episodes, but there is more tension and progression later in the season. Once the finale airs Sunday I'll say if the story was really moved forward tons.

 

[Skel]

I have enjoyed season 2 and am excited about the finale. I don’t care as much about Delores’ arc at the moment. I’ve been more interested in watching all the other characters. Maeve is amazing! I also enjoyed the episode about Akecheta.

: ) Amanda

At this point I don't disagree. Maeve (with the exception of the scene with her getting captured) has been stronger than I would have expected. I was a bit surprised in the last episode that they explained

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who sent her on her quest to escape the park, and probably who installed the backdoor/source code.

I expected that to be dragged out further. It really feels like they're tying up all the plot lines, which feels odd as they're getting another season.

Just finished Season 2 Episode 5 and I'm not sure I'll finish the season. The story has become a directionless mess. Did they change the writing team between S1 & S2?

The first season was much more thought provoking and better paced, after 5 episodes of this season it feels like nothing but gunfights and no story progression

On a plus side the Camera work, sound and costumes are fantastic.

I thought the first season was much much better. The last season felt like they had a solid plan on where they were going and what they wanted to do. This one seems like they're racing towards a finish. I have a hard time at this point seeing how they could do anything that'll make the season feel worth it. I could be wrong, but it feels like they used all their good stuff in the first season.

 

[Drako]

The season finale was just "meh" to me, and I probably will not watch season 3.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

Oh man, I loved the finale. Did you watch the after credits scene? It just makes everything more confusing honestly.

I can't wait 2 years for another season. What a great episode.