What are some great history books?

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In high school, history for me was like contemplating a great stone wall. Ultimately, the truth about things was fairly impenetrable. We had text books that dealt with subjects in a cursory manner, one at a time. Each item had a heading in big bold print. After that was another subject with another bold heading. Studying this stuff was a chore.

At the university I majored in the mathematical sciences. I took electives a lot and really liked them by and large. All kinds of stuff. I would never have thought to take a history course, certainly, but we had an American history requirement and I took a class in summer school at a city college, not my university. But that course was entirely different from high school. It covered IIRC, up to around the civil war. Somehow that course brought history to life. It may have been the teacher, I have to think so.

Anyway, now, many years later, I feel I should study history, I want to. I don't know where to start. I did go through a period a few decades ago where I studied WW II history, the holocaust in particular. I read several good books, but I didn't take that interest beyond that limited scope.

"Study history or the world's a mystery. Read or bleed, people, learn or burn." That's from the mouth of Dave Emory, who logged countless hours on radio in my vicinity. He studied history compulsively and obsessively and had very strong feelings about the forces that shaped the modern world and did a weekly program for many years, basically talk radio, mostly just him talking about the books he'd read and tying it all together in his interpretation of modern history.

Well, tonight I looked though my many books and am astonished to see that I have almost nothing in the nature of history. I have a historical novel of some great merit (I believe), in James Michener's Hawaii. Other than that, there's only a paperback of Winston Churchill's The Age of Revolution. I have read neither.

Please recommend some great history books. Books that will educate, will make me feel and know and understand the world as it was, how it became that way, how it is and how and why the world is what it is. Of course, I want to be fascinated, motivated to read on and expand my knowledge. Places to start and and further develop. I'm sure there are myriad great history books but have absolutely no idea where to start.
 
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I'm a big fan of Six Frigates by Ian Toll and Alexander Hamilton by Ron Chernow. My US history courses were pretty light on large swaths of US History (Covering the War of Independence, a brief mention of some scuffle with Britain after that and quickly moving on to the civil war) and I thought both of these did a great job filling in some of those blanks and covering some of the pivotal and closely contested decisions that carved the foundation for our country
 

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Traveller - Richard adams.

Story of the civil war as told by Robert E. Lee's horse. Traveller's story are told to a cat in the stable of the retired general. While slightly off, its telling of history is accurate from a horses view
 

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WW2 related ... these are IMO must reads to learn about the european theater

Learn about Hitler & Stalin
https://www.amazon.com/Dictators-Hitlers-Germany-Stalins-Russia/dp/0393327973

Winston Churchill's life in war
https://www.amazon.com/Warlord-Life-Winston-Churchill-1874-1945/dp/0060575743/

Learn about Stalingrad
https://www.amazon.com/Stalingrad-Fateful-1942-1943-Antony-Beevor/dp/0140284583

Personal Favorites about WW2, though possibly not as large in context as the above (I especially love David Howarth's writing), though Hastings is awesome, and Clamum's list is fantastic!

The Shetland bus (UK & Norway use fishing boats to smuggle people across the sea to fight the Nazis in Occupied Norway)
https://www.amazon.com/Shetland-Bus-Escape-Survival-Adventure/dp/1599213214/

We Die Alone (Jan Baalsrud takes "the Shetland Bus" to Norway, immediately gets attacked before he even gets to shore, everyone else is killed, he climbs a snowy mountain with bare feet and has insane survival story, This was also made into a Norwegian movie called "Ni Liv")
https://www.amazon.com/We-Die-Alone-Escape-Endurance/dp/1599210630/

The Sledge Patrol (people using sled dogs to patrol 1000 miles of Greenland coast to defend it against nazi's building weather monitoring stations)
https://www.amazon.com/Sledge-Patrol-Escape-Survival-Victory/dp/1599213222/


Assault in Norway: Sabatoging the Nazi Nuclear Program (this raid is large part of the reason why the Allies came up with the Nukes before the Germans. It set germany's nuclear ambitions back by years)
https://www.amazon.com/Assault-Norway-Sabotaging-Nuclear-Program/dp/1599219123/

Everyone probably already knows this one, but Band of Brothers of course is among my favorites.
https://www.amazon.com/Band-Brothers-Regiment-Airborne-Normandy/dp/074322454X

There are many others about many other subjects .... but, these are some favorites ....
 

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Richard Rhodes - The Making of the Atomic Bomb
My dad was a newly certified MD at the time in Manhattan. The Manhattan Project made a play for him to get onboard but he resisted and went his own way. Well, he went off to the Pacific theater to fight in the war instead of going undercover to help in the development of The Bomb. I don't think he thought of it in those terms, I doubt he had any idea of the nature of what the project was really about, only that it was some hush hush kind of affair. He wrote of this in his memoirs.
 

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Roger Crowley - Empires of the Sea- The Siege of Malta, the Battle of Lepanto, and the Contest for the Center of the World - How Europe finally turned back Suleiman


Phillips Payson O'Brien - How the War was Won- Air-Sea Power and Allied Victory in World War II

not the lightest reading, but chock full of interesting facts and tidbits about how WWII was actually won (the eastern front wasn't as important as you thing, the WAAF is more important than you think, aluminum was perhaps the most important part of Lend Lease, mines dropped by B-29s were more effective than the entire US sub force, strategic bombing was more important than often given credit for, the morality (or lack thereof) of bombing, the Germans lost more planes in transport than combat, Douglas MacArthur's horrible mistakes, etc, etc
 

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A lot of guys initially digest accounts of military engagements, then branch from there. Unfortunately, with war stories you don't get a good sense of what life was like in home countries during that era. I have filled in some gaps watching some BBC documentaries, ones that reenact daily life, or demonstrate products/technology from a specific era. Also old magazines are good for discovering what people were like back then. Knowing people's perspective way back when, really helps you understand WHY they responded the way they did to circumstances that arose; e.g. Boston Tea Party.

These days you often see historical discussions attempt to trivialize the motives behind certain deeds/events, or debase them. So maybe seek history books that were written before political correctness and animus towards ancestors became prevalent.

I have a title in mind - I think it's Bryce's American Commonwealth - but I'll have to go check later. I've read both volumes. It's probably 100 years old. Basically the British author contrasts British folk/politics with American folk/politics. Comparing cultures is always fun.
 
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I bought and read this as a soon to be teenager: 2194 Days of War.

And yes, I still have my copy from 1977-8. I, too, had little interest in history, but the chronological layout of this book made it so hard to put down. The day to day accounts across the globe was something else.
 

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"Campaigning with Grant," by Horace Porter, U.S. Grant's aide-de-camp. Porter is clearly devoted to Grant, but his accounts of their battles and Grant's command method and strategy are well worth the read. We sure could use a man like Grant now....

And, of course, "Team of Rivals." One of the very best books about Lincoln yet written.
 

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Killing England - Bill O'reilly

*backs into the corner*

All of the Killing books are good though. They are best sellers.
 

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The Bible.

You know what I love about traditional message boards? You can crappost and it wouldn't be downvoted. Everyone sees your crappost.


It's funny because despite the Bible being the most sold book of all time in human flipping history, it's also banned in several countries. I wonder why?
 

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The Bible.

You know what I love about traditional message boards? You can crappost and it wouldn't be downvoted. Everyone sees your crappost.
Yeah man, my idiot jokes are just as valued as the theses that get posted over in P&N over the ethics of grabbing pussy.
 
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"Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" - tells the story of the American West from the indigenous people's perspective and highlights many of the atrocious things we, as a country, did (or allowed others to do) to them.
 

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"Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" - tells the story of the American West from the indigenous people's perspective and highlights many of the atrocious things we, as a country, did (or allowed others to do) to them.

Whoa there boyo why bother quoting books laying blame for acts of yesteryear at out feet ? This thinking is noticeably wrong in two ways, as people continue to feel guilty for the acts of others committed hundreds of years ago. Let us know if you plan acts of expiation and redemption . Maybe try joining a christian church. They love repentants.
 
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Whoa there boyo why bother quoting books laying blame for acts of yesteryear at out feet ? This thinking is noticeably wrong in two ways, as people continue to feel guilty for the acts of others committed hundreds of years ago. Let us know if you plan acts of expiation and redemption . Maybe try joining a christian church. They love repentants.
Many people continue to suffer because of the actions our forefathers took under the flag of our country. And many problems today can be traced back to many of those actions. The least we can do is learn their stories.
 

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Enemy at the Gates. It's about the battle of Stalingrad. Most well-researched book I've ever read.

Twenty Decisive Battles of the World. Does what it says on the tin.
 
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