What are you going to do when the election's called?

QueBert

Lifer
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Obviously, a Biden win has Trump going ape shit and turning this into a huge legal battle. So who knows that route when it would actually be official. Regardless, if they call it for Biden I'm going to make a Sous Vide Rib Eye some home made 5 cheese Mac & Cheese and crack open a DIPA. If Trump somehow manages to win, I'm not a liquor person but I might make an exception with a bottle of Don Juilo silver Tequila. Not for ice cold shots with salt and lime, more of a straight chug chug chug thing. Or at the very least pounding the entire 6 pack of the DIPA I'd be enjoying 1 or 2 of if Biden wins (10.5%'ish alcohol)

I thought 2016 was the most I would ever be invested in an election. I took it pretty hard when Trump won. 2020 I feel my life's on the line here. I'm hoping to have my steak dinner tonight. Takes about 2.5 hours to Sous Vide the steak. If the results aren't in until 10, I'm okay with a 1AM dinner to celebrate.

To the rest of the world, be glad you don't live here right now. I understand Trump winning would still have an effect on the rest of the world. But living in the Trump epicenter's pure madness. I need to go check the latest results from the "Poles"

I can't fucking believe the POTUS said poles AND he capitalized the P, so embarassing.
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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Obviously, a Biden win has Trump going ape shit and turning this into a huge legal battle. So who knows that route when it would actually be official. Regardless, if they call it for Biden I'm going to make a Sous Vide Rib Eye some home made 5 cheese Mac & Cheese and crack open a DIPA. If Trump somehow manages to win, I'm not a liquor person but I might make an exception with a bottle of Don Juilo silver Tequila. Not for ice cold shots with salt and lime, more of a straight chug chug chug thing. Or at the very least pounding the entire 6 pack of the DIPA I'd be enjoying 1 or 2 of if Biden wins (10.5%'ish alcohol)

I thought 2016 was the most I would ever be invested in an election. I took it pretty hard when Trump won. 2020 I feel my life's on the line here. I'm hoping to have my steak dinner tonight. Takes about 2.5 hours to Sous Vide the steak. If the results aren't in until 10, I'm okay with a 1AM dinner to celebrate.

To the rest of the world, be glad you don't live here right now. I understand Trump winning would still have an effect on the rest of the world. But living in the Trump epicenter's pure madness. I need to go check the latest results from the "Poles"

I can't fucking believe the POTUS said poles AND he capitalized the P, so embarassing.
I'd be interested to know the ratio of his tweets with and without typos/misspellings/grammatical errors. I bet it is over 1:2
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Im going to continue my life. A presidential election has never really changed *my* life with the exception of GW Bush and Clinton. They, IMHO, made the biggest problems Ive seen in my lifetime.
 

Commodus

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Oct 9, 2004
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If Biden wins, I (and most of the planet, really) will breathe a sigh of relief.

If Trump? Well, time to hold your nose and hope there's still a semi-functional government left by 2024.
 
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Chryso

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Nov 23, 2004
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I don't understand the disdain for Trump. Pre covid we had a great economy, the lowest overall unemployment in 50 years, the lowest black unemployment ever, an improvement in the trade imbalance with China and 4 middle east peace deals. The man was doing work. People get this upset because he says mean things?
 

Chryso

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Sorry, I guess I didn't answer the question. I will probably turn off social media for a while. Everything is nicer with no social media.
 
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brycejones

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Oct 18, 2005
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I don't understand the disdain for Trump. Pre covid we had a great economy, the lowest overall unemployment in 50 years, the lowest black unemployment ever, an improvement in the trade imbalance with China and 4 middle east peace deals. The man was doing work. People get this upset because he says mean things?
People get upset because he fucks up a crisis so badly 238K Americans are dead? Do you really have to ask this question?
 

Chryso

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Nov 23, 2004
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People get upset because he fucks up a crisis so badly 238K Americans are dead? Do you really have to ask this question?
LOL, yeah, he did that. Stop lying to yourself, man. When he closed the borders the dems went ballistic. Try to open your brain and stop believing what the news wants you to believe.

Oh, and i forgot to mention that you need to put a huge amount of those deaths on the governors of the blue states in the north east who kept sending infected elderly back to nursing homes.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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LOL, yeah, he did that. Stop lying to yourself, man. When he closed the borders the dems went ballistic. Try to open your brain and stop believing what the news wants you to believe.
He didn't close shit. He created a rush of people back to this country who subsequently spread the infection. We didn't put them in quarantine, we didn't monitor the 10s of thousands that came back. And the main source of spread early in this country was travelers from Europe. Learn some basic facts before you sound ignorant.

Fuck you people are dumb as rocks.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Apex Legends season 7 gets released at 11pm EST tonight. So I'll be playing that and checking my phone.
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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He didn't close shit. He created a rush of people back to this country who subsequently spread the infection. We didn't put them in quarantine, we didn't monitor the 10s of thousands that came back. And the main source of spread early in this country was travelers from Europe. Learn some basic facts before you sound ignorant.

Fuck you people are dumb as rocks.
And he thinks the news we're using is unbelievable, wonder where his "facts" come from?
 

Commodus

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Oct 9, 2004
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I don't understand the disdain for Trump. Pre covid we had a great economy, the lowest overall unemployment in 50 years, the lowest black unemployment ever, an improvement in the trade imbalance with China and 4 middle east peace deals. The man was doing work. People get this upset because he says mean things?

It's pretty obvious.

He lies often. Not just little fibs; huge, glaringly obvious lies that are not only easily disproven (often with a quick Google search), but often cause real damage when people believe them. He parrots QAnon conspiracy junk. He makes even Nixon seem honest.

He's overtly corrupt. He abuses public offices (like the DOJ and USPS) for personal gain, and he even admits that what he's using them for. You know how he was impeached for trying to squeeze Ukraine for dirt on Biden? He acknowledged it. The only reason he wasn't convicted was because the Republican-held Senate covered his ass.

He panders to xenophobes and racists. He scapegoats entire cultures and foreigners as a whole. He also has an almost comic inability to condemn racism. When people found that Stephen Miller consorts with white supremacists, the Trump administration refused to fire him. He shifted law enforcement attention away from right-wing racist extremists despite them being the primary source of terrorism in the US. And then there's that softball question about condemning white supremacy at one debate — it was the easiest question on the planet, but he couldn't bring himself to say "I condemn white supremacy" until he was forced to afterward.

He rejects science. Human-made climate change is a well-documented thing with a broad scientific consensus, but Trump pretends it's not real. He's antagonistic with health experts who are just trying to save lives. Hell, this is the man who looked directly at a solar eclipse after being told not to. We should have political leaders who respect science and defer to experts in a given field.

Trump inherited a thriving economy from Obama. You can give Trump a bit of credit for not screwing things up pre-pandemic, but even then he added volatility to the market that didn't exist before. Also, low unemployment isn't the only factor. You need a higher quality of life and better opportunities. What good is low unemployment if you need to work two or even three jobs to avoid poverty, and never have a hope of affording college? Let's not forget that the Trump/GOP plan ultimately favors the rich, not the broader public.

On foreign policy, what progress there's been has been undermined by Trump in other areas. He loves authoritarians like Putin and Kim (both for economic opportunities and because he cherishes unquestioned rule). He goes soft on them when they have no intention of caving in. He weakens relationships with important allies outside of Israel. And those authoritarians not only know this weakness, but exploit it.

That Trump is also a petty, vindictive asshole on Twitter is just a tiny drop in a much larger bucket.
 
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SmCaudata

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I don't understand the disdain for Trump. Pre covid we had a great economy, the lowest overall unemployment in 50 years, the lowest black unemployment ever, an improvement in the trade imbalance with China and 4 middle east peace deals. The man was doing work. People get this upset because he says mean things?
How about rolling back numerous environmental protections and setting us back significantly in terms of emissions. Global warming WILL destroy our planet. It is completely unacceptable to not address it as president.

Secondly, Trump has increased the deficit to GDP ratio over his time as president, which is not fiscally responsible.

Third, he has appointed judges that have repeatedly sided with companies over individual rights.

Fourth, because he was unwilling to admit that he was wrong about the seriousness of COVID-19, he had failed to protect society. If he would have encouraged mask mandates and distancing from day 1, things may be different.

Fifth, he has pushed us towards totalitarian and fascist policies.

Sixth, he has stood behind and encouraged white nationalist agendas while acusing others of being terrorists.

Seventh, he lies about everything, thereby decreasing transparency in our government.

So, even outside the fact that he's arguable the most humiliating president we've ever had, he has done some really shitty things that will take us decades to recover from.

He's a clown and unwilling to change his stance even when faced with overwhelming evidence indicating he's wrong.

He is dangerous.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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I don't understand the disdain for Trump. Pre covid we had a great economy, the lowest overall unemployment in 50 years, the lowest black unemployment ever, an improvement in the trade imbalance with China and 4 middle east peace deals. The man was doing work. People get this upset because he says mean things?

People talk about the economy like Trump created it. The fact is he inherited strong trends (which still had issues) but that he did not fuck up, and in many metrics did not beat the last few years of Obama's economy in his first few years. People keep touting lowest black unemployment - implying Trump did something about black unemployment in particular. It's just propaganda for the feeble minded. He did nothing to target minority unemployment, it's just the logical result of unemployment trending down for years before Trump even took office. What he did do was give really rich people and corporations tax cuts, which they mostly invested or bought back stocks, and juiced the stock market - while blowing up the debt. They point at those shiny things and say look, and the morons look and nod with drool sliding down their chin. Meanwhile the middle class are still getting squeezed and almost 50% of Americans don't own any stocks. Shit like healthcare really matters to your average person on the day to day - a healthcare plan was coming in two weeks for years, all they have been trying to do is overthrow the entire ACA. They are doing nothing for average Americans.

The peace deals are very misleading as well. Sure they are good but mostly symbolic - these nations had no active military interaction with Israel in many decades. It's mostly to make Evangelicals happy since Israel is their gateway drug to the Rapture. When Trump had an actual chance to affect peace in the middle east by taking all American involvement out of an actual ACTIVE Yemen conflict, he vetoed that bipartisan bill. It was a historic veto.
 

alexruiz

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I don't understand the disdain for Trump. Pre covid we had a great economy, the lowest overall unemployment in 50 years, the lowest black unemployment ever, an improvement in the trade imbalance with China and 4 middle east peace deals. The man was doing work. People get this upset because he says mean things?

Repeating what cucker carlson tells you might work in other forums with tons of uneducated people, aka trump supporters, but not here.

- The trade deficit with China is at an all time high right now.
- Those middle east peace deals were between countries who were never at war.
- Economy was juts coasting off Obama and Biden. Both GDP and stock market gains lower under trump 3 first years than Obama's first 3. Notice i left 2020 out.
- Lowest unemployment under the cheeto, true, but lower GDP growth per capita. What does that mean? The jobs added were low income jobs! Maybe you had one of those low paying jobs, hence why you are happy.
 

Fenixgoon

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Jun 30, 2003
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Repeating what cucker carlson tells you might work in other forums with tons of uneducated people, aka trump supporters, but not here.

- The trade deficit with China is at an all time high right now.
- Those middle east peace deals were between countries who were never at war.
- Economy was juts coasting off Obama and Biden. Both GDP and stock market gains lower under trump 3 first years than Obama's first 3. Notice i left 2020 out.
- Lowest unemployment under the cheeto, true, but lower GDP growth per capita. What does that mean? The jobs added were low income jobs! Maybe you had one of those low paying jobs, hence why you are happy.

I would also add that we had a meaningful nuclear deal with Iran that Trump tanked, and TPP would have created an economic bloc to counter china's influence in SEA while simultaneously opening asian markets to billions of dollars of sales for US farmers
 

eelw

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I don't understand the disdain for Trump. Pre covid we had a great economy, the lowest overall unemployment in 50 years, the lowest black unemployment ever, an improvement in the trade imbalance with China and 4 middle east peace deals. The man was doing work. People get this upset because he says mean things?
What is the exact policy did Trumpity Dumpity do to help the economy? Tax cut gave a sugar high to an already raging stock market. He has done squat. It's Apple and Amazon that keeps the economy rolling
 
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hal2kilo

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Feb 24, 2009
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Figuring out why in the last 2 elections the local state legislators have flipped to Republican. I will be contacting the person I contributed to that lost and see what the hell is going on in my county. The one flip did not really surprise me as he was a DINO that perennially voted with the states Republican caucus so his retirement opened up that spot for a Pub. Too many people with big money moving in the area. Used to be so much undeveloped cheap view land around here. Took people about 30 years to figure it out. Rain bad. Stay away.
 

pauldun170

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Another thing I'm going to do once this is all done is enjoy the fact that the youtube algorithm really want me to watch women's track and field event from Europe.
 
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