whelp,
i think i can call it a day on Skyrim SE.
Currently at 157 hours, and have done pretty much everything.
So after a crash and a partial fix, i decided to try a new game but taking mods more seriously.
SSE comes with Wyrsmtooth, Dawnguard and Dragonborn baked in, and i added Moonpath To Elsweyr, UFO (later replaced with Amazing Followers Mod, although they both work great and the allegedly better AI from AFM isn't worth the effort of going through the horribad UI this mod uses), Anima Nera, Queen Of The Damned (a graphical overhaul and a combat overhaul for Serana), plus No NPC Greetings (no more "i used to be an adventurer like you" being blurted out every.fucking.time), No Screen Blood, Vivid World Map, and Legacy Of The Dragonborn.
Now, the point was to play Legacy (LOTD) because allegedly it was akin to a total conversion mod, aaaand it's not. Like, nowhere near nuhu not at all;
basically you do get a whole bunch of additional quests, but for some fucked up reason, the very prerequisite of those quests is that you must have already completed pretty much the entire game.
Though, they are good quests, but nothing to write home about.
Elsweyr isn't worth it. I have read on Reddit the explanation that M2E predates the -whatever name for Skyrim editor- and essentially it's worthy of praise because at the time, it was revolutionary. Well, it hasn't aged well at all. Good voice acting, but poor scripting, poor maps. And there's a couple of items that are so broken that i refuse to acknowledge they exist.
Oh yeah i forgot, you also get .. uh, more stuff in the base game. Heartfire, which adds a useless functionality to build houses because 1. it's useless, 2. you get pretty much zero choice on what to build, 3. the sole purpose is to have a easy-farming spot for salmon, and it adds one alchemy component (salmon ROE, duh) that is utterly broken.
Elsweyr adds a component called Zahilisk Tooth that can make potions of Fortify Smithing that obscenely overpowered and even with very basic enchanting / alchemy you can get 300% bonus to weapon smithing.
i had fun. Like, solid 7/10 fun.
it's a shame that the game as-designed has severe faults because it could have been even better, but her, it's idk, 15 years old?
I played throughout at Expert but regardless, the combat is very poor and the AI is so bad, you have to just accept this, let them hit you, because otherwise there would be no fun at all.
Enemy spells are much stronger as much as your own are garbage. Throughout the game, there is a very brief sweet spot around level 10 - 25 where the game is somewhat balanced, but even without trying too hard, it rapidly becomes excessively unbalanced.
Even if you ignore all the special ores, no dragon weapons, no amber, no madness, and make no effort at all of looping the enchantment & alchemy buffing - i mean, ZERO Restoration exploit - hell, even if you ONLY use drops you find in chests, but only take those pieces that boost either Archery or Two Handed or One Handed or whatever, you will still deal 500+ damage per hit. This is without even considering that you can make near-endless potions that will boost that, should you actually need it.
At Expert level 65+ most mobs, even while parrying, will die to 1 normal blow, or 1 arrow. Never mind power attacks, never mind potions.
If you do your own Smithing and Alchemy and Enchanting - not that you need to - you can pretty much ignore anything you find in chests, in drops. "Sword Of The Annihilator"? "Warhammer Of Absurd Doom" ? nah, no tnx i got my own shit at home.
Dragonborn is ... really good. The "Black Books" series is suuuper trippy, the writing and story are really intense, and while still not being "untracked" quests, they are kept as vague as the game allows. I found it surprising i had to do my own thinking.
Legacy / LOTD is .. good, but, weird?
Essentially you are given a museum. EMPTY. And the curator is like, yeah buddy, go. Go and pick up and return every item in existence in the base game and these 4 expansions.
But it's not just like decorating your house, because, the more items, the more the museum questline opens up. At the start it doesnt seem to do anything, but the more you collect, the more it opens like an actual mod.
But again, the problem is that .. it will take away those items. Fuck you if you actually need them for a quest, and if you do, take it back from the museum, FINISH THE BASE QUEST, until the item can be dropped, and then deposit it. This includes 3 Elder Scrolls, nightingale armor, dragonbone armor, daedric armor sets, etc stuff that you DO NOT HAVE at the start of the game, and you can't just pretend the base game missions don't exist and only play the mod missions instead.
.. i mean, i just wanted to play the Civil War.
When you start the game you have the option to jump into the Civil War questline right away - after all, you are already in it when the game starts, Helgen is attacked by a dragon, and the Imperials think you are a stormcloak.
You join, and shortly after they give you a new armor that doesnt suck as bad as the basic armor; idk, Imperial Armor Plus.
And, in the previous game, i was already wearing idk, enchanted Elven Armor by this stage and i thought, is there any way i can play this questline at the start, and actually be given this armor when it's worth something?
So i started a new game with all the above, and ... no.
No you can't. You can TRY, but the Civil War questline immediately breaks because you MUST fucking go report to the Jarl of Whiterun, you MUST go to the watctower, you must kill the dragon and absorb the soul, and you just aren't given a chance to do anything until you become Dragonborn.
So *yawn* i tried instead doing the LOTD quests, but they are completely locked behind you being able to find enough diverse game assets that you just cannot do unless you open up the base game, do far more quests that you want, which kinda defeats the purpose of have "a huge, sprawling standalone mod". Standalone my ass.
Ok time to wrap up this nearly page-long post.
I became Dragonborn, Slayer of Alduin and saved or all of Tamriel, Archmage of the college of Winterhold, Listener of Sithis, Guildmaster of Riften, Thane of 3 holds, Prelate of the Empire, Fellow of the Bard College, and then i married a vampire because they know how to suck.