What are your plans for the evening of November 3, 2020?

[Muse]

I expect to be right where I am now most of the evening with this laptop on my lap watching network news returns programming and checking out this thread:

The Official 2020 General Election returns thread CONTAINS NSFW IMAGES IN POST 3,884

Yup, 6 days early, AFAIK there won't be any returns until polls close Nov. 3, but here goes. I expect to spend the evening (Pacific Time Zone) with TV tuned to network returns show with this lappy on my lap checking out this thread. Many happy returns!

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[zzyzxroad]

I'll be worrying. Even if trump loses I'm worried about the damage he do from then until Jan 20th. Plus the number of people who can't see how divisive and horrible he is is troubling.

 

[MtnMan]

I'll be worrying. Even if trump loses I'm worried about the damage he do from then until Jan 20th. Plus the number of people who can't see how divisive and horrible he is is troubling.

He will do everything he can to destroy the country in the 2.5 months from the election to inauguration, and the damage he does will take decades to remedy. If there is any chance of the country surviving, it is the 25th amendment, but Trump has stacked the deck I doubt that is even possible.

 

[Muse]

He will do everything he can to destroy the country in the 2.5 months from the election to inauguration, and the damage he does will take decades to remedy. If there is any chance of the country surviving, it is the 25th amendment, but Trump has stacked the deck I doubt that is even possible.

He just thinks he's the greatest thing this country has ever produced. He really seems to think that. It's weird as hell, and people are eating it right up. It's pretty darn crazy.

It bothers me more than anything.

 

[MtnMan]

He just thinks he's the greatest thing this country has ever produced. He really seems to think that. It's weird as hell, and people are eating it right up. It's pretty darn crazy.

It bothers me more than anything.

I started a separate thread on this because I really have a sense of dread for the country for the next few months. His rage is a given, but the real question is to what extent will he actually incite violence from his simian followers. I fear and expect civil unrest and violence across the country in the weeks after the election. Hope I'm wrong, but I fear I'm not. I suspect that law enforcement has been pre-planning for this for a while.

Local law enforcement has already said they will have a presence at the polls on election day to keep the peace.

Expect "rage" and "terror," psychologists warn

I think that most of us, basically anyone not a member of the Trump cult, recognize that Trump is seriously mentally unstable, that would take a whole library of psychology textbooks to cover his many issues. I've expect, and have posted my predictions that Trump is going to lose his shit when...

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[Muse]

I started a separate thread on this because I really have a sense of dread for the country for the next few months. His rage is a given, but the real question is to what extent will he actually incite violence from his simian followers. I fear and expect civil unrest and violence across the country in the weeks after the election. Hope I'm wrong, but I fear I'm not. I suspect that law enforcement has been pre-planning for this for a while.

Local law enforcement has already said they will have a presence at the polls on election day to keep the peace.

Expect "rage" and "terror," psychologists warn

I think that most of us, basically anyone not a member of the Trump cult, recognize that Trump is seriously mentally unstable, that would take a whole library of psychology textbooks to cover his many issues. I've expect, and have posted my predictions that Trump is going to lose his shit when...

forums.anandtech.com

I really think that Trump reacts to the narrative going on. He's a TV junkie and if the narrative is that he has to act civilized and be a good boy and vacate the WH like every other president before him did when it was time, he may do just that. But if Fox News, and etc. are inciting trouble, he's going to eat it up.

 

[pmv]

Doesn't sound like anyone will dare call a 'winner' for a long time after the close of polls. I'm just going to try and not think about it until a result finally comes in, probably days later (while secretly, despite myself, hoping for exciting courtroom drama and political protests)

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[sportage]

I’ve lost all faith in this country or more so in the people of this country. I think people have become spoiled, self centered, uncaring, self indulging, immoral, lazy, racist, disengaged, and quite delusional. Extremely delusional as a matter of fact. Our basics have been corrupted, our religion, our churches, our patriotic soul all fallen victim to the orange scourge. I’m no fan of mike pence but when a self proclaimed religious man like mike pence who claims to know the difference between right and wrong lead by his religious faith defends someone of such low moral as Donald Trump, well that about sums it all up. Thus, because of the American people and our lack of direction I am preparing myself for a Trump victory. I’m not going through the devastation I went through back in 2016. So my philosophy this time, expect the worst but hope for the best. But realistically... expect the worst. In fact, plan on it. Maybe this is all a test before the knight’s in shining armor come rushing in. Let’s hope so.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Anyone want me to start up a team fortress 2 server?
We likely won’t have enough Republicans to fill the Red Team.

 

[pmv]

Ideally it would result in both Trump leaving the Whitehouse and a realisation that the US political system is broken and no longer fit for purpose and needs substantial reform. It's very possible those two are mutually-exclusive, however.

 

[pmv]

He just thinks he's the greatest thing this country has ever produced. He really seems to think that. It's weird as hell, and people are eating it right up. It's pretty darn crazy.

It's long struck me that if you want others to follow your ideas, and in particular if you want to form a cult, you have to fool yourself first. A vital ingredient for success in gaining followers is to not examine your own ideas too carefully. If you ever for a moment find yourself thinking "maybe I'm full of crap" "none of this really makes sense" then you've had it.

Which is why I'm dubious about the very existence of "narcissistic personality disorder". By definition, to be a personality disorder it has to adversely affect your wellbeing. But in a cultural or political context where excessive self-belief is rewarded how does one say it's a "disorder"? For someone like Trump it's an adaptive trait - it works.

 

[blankslate]

Joe Rogan is having Kyle Kulinski a lefty YouTube political commentator as a guest on election for a live stream...

I'll watch it.
How you react to one name or another will tell me how far up you pushed your head up the establishment's ass whilst experimenting with analingus.


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[Paratus]

Joe Rogan is having Kyle Kulinski a lefty YouTube political commentator as a guest on election for a live stream...

I'll watch it.
How you react to one name or another will tell me how far up you pushed your head up the establishment's ass whilst experimenting with analingus.


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Wait isn’t Joe Rogan that guy from News Radio?

 

[fskimospy]

Joe Rogan is having Kyle Kulinski a lefty YouTube political commentator as a guest on election for a live stream...

I'll watch it.
How you react to one name or another will tell me how far up you pushed your head up the establishment's ass whilst experimenting with analingus.


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What if my reaction is to not give a shit about either of them?

 

[Amused]

Wait isn’t Joe Rogan that guy from News Radio?

Joe Rogan is pushing the Hunter Biden Laptop nonsense and has declared the media is hiding the "truth." He's a discount Alex Jones.

Oh, wait...

Joe Rogan, Alex Jones and Spotify's illusion of neutrality | TechCrunch

Social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter have taken a messy beating from critics unhappy with how they handle questionable content on their

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[Wreckem]

You don't think it'll come down to mail in ballots counted and found days / weeks later? With legal battles over which ones count?
It'd be nice if Nov3 was the deciding day. But people decided to make this year different.... they should have voted in person.

This is false. In a normal year Most states take a week to count all their votes. Some take two.

 

[woolfe9998]

It's long struck me that if you want others to follow your ideas, and in particular if you want to form a cult, you have to fool yourself first. A vital ingredient for success in gaining followers is to not examine your own ideas too carefully. If you ever for a moment find yourself thinking "maybe I'm full of crap" "none of this really makes sense" then you've had it.

Which is why I'm dubious about the very existence of "narcissistic personality disorder". By definition, to be a personality disorder it has to adversely affect your wellbeing. But in a cultural or political context where excessive self-belief is rewarded how does one say it's a "disorder"? For someone like Trump it's an adaptive trait - it works.

"Personality disorders" have adverse affects on others, not just the person with the disorder. As for Trump, you really think he's happy? Purportedly he's angry almost all the time. Did you see his behavior on 60 minutes? Is that the behavior of a happy well adjusted person?

Deep down Trump knows he's shit which is why he requires constant adoration from others. If he loses this election, he will go into an emotional tailspin because his ego can't face the idea of losing. The problem is that you're defining one's well being by external measures of success, like power and wealth. But you're missing the fact that you can have those things and still be utterly miserable.

 

[zzyzxroad]

Joe Rogan is pushing the Hunter Biden Laptop nonsense and has declared the media is hiding the "truth." He's a discount Alex Jones.

Oh, wait...

Joe Rogan, Alex Jones and Spotify's illusion of neutrality | TechCrunch

Social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter have taken a messy beating from critics unhappy with how they handle questionable content on their

techcrunch.com

He's an idiot and buys into a ton of conspiracies. It is sad he has the #1 podcast.

 

[pmv]

"Personality disorders" have adverse affects on others, not just the person with the disorder. As for Trump, you really think he's happy? Purportedly he's angry almost all the time. Did you see his behavior on 60 minutes? Is that the behavior of a happy well adjusted person?

Deep down Trump knows he's shit which is why he requires constant adoration from others. If he loses this election, he will go into an emotional tailspin because his ego can't face the idea of losing. The problem is that you're defining one's well being by external measures of success, like power and wealth. But you're missing the fact that you can have those things and still be utterly miserable.

I don't think that's part of the definition of personality disorder, though. I think to be so diagnosed it has to cause the individual with the disorder to "have difficulty functioning". It just strikes me that makes it very subjective and dependent on the nature of the society you are talking about, and the individual's position in it.

I grant you have a point about the definition of 'wellbeing'. I mean, I can't honestly say I'd ever want to _be_ Trump, no matter how many gold bathroom fittings he has. I concede I need to retire from the debate to think about that issue a bit more!

 

[fskimospy]

I don't think that's part of the definition of personality disorder, though. I think to be so diagnosed it has to cause the individual with the disorder to "have difficulty functioning". It just strikes me that makes it very subjective and dependent on the nature of the society you are talking about, and the individual's position in it.

I grant you have a point about the definition of 'wellbeing'. I mean, I can't honestly say I'd ever want to _be_ Trump, no matter how many gold bathroom fittings he has. I concede I need to retire from the debate to think about that issue a bit more!

I think it depends on how you define functioning. He appears to be unable to feel happiness or joy in a normal way and he seems unable to create interpersonal bonds that aren’t based on coercion. Now maybe he doesn’t care about any of that but it’s still pretty abnormal.

Someone pointed this out to me a while back - have you ever seen him laugh or experience what appears to be happiness in any context other than people cheering him or him mocking/destroying someone else? Maybe he has, but I’m not aware of any. That’s a dark, dark place for anyone to be.

Personally he appears to be a textbook narcissist but I think more than anything he is a psychopath. Emotions other than anger, hate, and contempt are just very dim signals to him that he can’t understand.

 

[blankslate]

Wait isn’t Joe Rogan that guy from News Radio?

Yes one of the best underrated comedies of all time and one of the 90's best comedies that flew under most people radars...

Now he's some "transphobic neanderthal" to people who wouldn't know nuance if it fell on their head like a ton of bricks, but given the nature of nuance one must grant that it tends not to do that.


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[MtnMan]

This is false. In a normal year Most states take a week to count all their votes. Some take two.

With technology we have today, we will start seeing results within minutes of the polls closing in a state. Within hours, 95%+ of precincts will have reported results. By Wednesday noon 99% of votes cast will be available.

Each state has its own time restrictions on counting, and some really don't make much sense. Mail in votes will be accepted 0 to 10 days after the election (if postmarked 11/3).

Alaska will NOT count their mail in ballots until November 10.

Here is the breakdown -----> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/27/upshot/election-results-timing.html

 

[pmv]

I suggest retiring to bed early, lest the defeated Trumpists fire on Fort Sumter (surprising the tourists and seriously upsetting the national parks service) and you have to report to your regiment at dawn.

 

[pmv]

Personally he appears to be a textbook narcissist but I think more than anything he is a psychopath. Emotions other than anger, hate, and contempt are just very dim signals to him that he can’t understand.

I think there's a difference between noting the obvious fact that he's a narcissist, i.e. has very storng narcissistic traits, and declaring it to be NPD. The question is, how much narcissism constitutes a disorder, given the extent to which the contemporary US appears to be a narcissogenic culture?

 

[fskimospy]

I think there's a difference between noting the obvious fact that he's a narcissist, i.e. has very storng narcissistic traits, and declaring it to be NPD. The question is, how much narcissism constitutes a disorder, given the extent to which the contemporary US appears to be a narcissogenic culture?

Well his need for adulation and attention has gotten hundreds killed so that seems pretty disordered.