"What are your salary requirements?"

Farang

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I am a recent grad with little experience. Today I did what seemed like a full interview over the phone, with a personal interview tomorrow that seems to be something just to see if I am or am not a freak in person (all relevant questions were covered over the phone). At the end there was this exchange:

Her: What are you salary requirements?
Me: Well, I think I would like at least $13 per hour.
Her: Do you want at least $13 or are you hoping for $13?
Me: I guess I am just hoping for $13 an hour.
Her: What is your minimum?
Me: $10 per hour.
Her: So you're somewhere in the range 10 to 15 or 13, that seems doable.

(I swear I heard that 15 mumbled in there)

Now the position she stressed required a lot of responsibility, basically if I mess up the entire firm is screwed. So I imagine they might not be trying to fill this position on the cheap. She also asked about my future plans in a way which suggested she wanted to know how long I wanted to work there (2 years seemed satisfactory).

My reasoning behind expecting more money is that if they offer me $10 they have to know I will continue looking for a job elsewhere because that is shit pay for downtown Seattle. On the other hand they know exactly what my minimum offer is so why won't they take it. Any predictions, no matter how unfounded, are appreciated. If they base their lowball offer on my lack of experience is there any way I can push for a temp-to-hire type deal where they review me after 3-6 months and I get bumped up? I understand I am not worth $13-$15 but I think for the work they are asking for I am entitled to a review in short time (3-6 months) that would determine if I can make that kind of money.
 

evident

Lifer
Apr 5, 2005
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they are gonna give you $10 an hour for a stressful job? where is the + for you?
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: evident
they are gonna give you $10 an hour for a stressful job? where is the + for you?

It gives me a good overview of the industry.. the problem is I change my mind all the time and will likely decide I want to do something else in a month and have no reason to not change careers if I'm starving anyway. If the job payed well at least I would be forced to stay there a year or more.
 

JD50

Lifer
Sep 4, 2005
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And yea, $10 an hour? WTF? Sheetz pays $10 an hour. No offense, but damn!
 

EMPshockwave82

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10 bucks an hour is 20k a year (in a 40 hour work week 50 weeks a year)

even 15 an hour is only 30 a year....

Unless you're living in your parent's basement.... (absolutely nothing wrong with this).... you will probably struggle
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: JD50
FWIW, I never give out my real minimum.

I should say I am living on couches right now so worst case scenario is they lowball me and I bail in a month but make $1600 gross rather than $0 gross like I am now. I'd just like to think a company knows that if they lowball someone they don't have a loyal employee.
 

Farang

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To summarize I know $10 is shit.. I guess what I am asking is does anyone think a company would actually offer this to someone they expect to stick around in a major American city? My reasoning is they have to know I will constantly be looking elsewhere.
 

SSSnail

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The last time I was asked that and stated my minimum, "they" lowered it by $20K citing "economic conditions". Pffft.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: JD50
FWIW, I never give out my real minimum.
I should say I am living on couches right now so worst case scenario is they lowball me and I bail in a month but make $1600 gross rather than $0 gross like I am now. I'd just like to think a company knows that if they lowball someone they don't have a loyal employee.
 

JD50

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Sep 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: JD50
FWIW, I never give out my real minimum.

I should say I am living on couches right now so worst case scenario is they lowball me and I bail in a month but make $1600 gross rather than $0 gross like I am now. I'd just like to think a company knows that if they lowball someone they don't have a loyal employee.

Yea, I'm sure they know, but they probably don't care.
 

Farang

Lifer
Jul 7, 2003
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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Farang
Originally posted by: JD50
FWIW, I never give out my real minimum.

I should say I am living on couches right now so worst case scenario is they lowball me and I bail in a month but make $1600 gross rather than $0 gross like I am now. I'd just like to think a company knows that if they lowball someone they don't have a loyal employee.

Yea, I'm sure they know, but they probably don't care.

Fine with me, I make more money in February than I would otherwise I have something much better for March but if the offer were $13 then I would probably stick around.
 

EMPshockwave82

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Originally posted by: Farang
To summarize I know $10 is shit.. I guess what I am asking is does anyone think a company would actually offer this to someone they expect to stick around in a major American city? My reasoning is they have to know I will constantly be looking elsewhere.

If they expect you to stay they will make it worth your while to stay.

If they do not, they will continue to pay you very little and stress you out daily and force you to leave. (After you get fed up with it all)
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
Originally posted by: Farang
To summarize I know $10 is shit.. I guess what I am asking is does anyone think a company would actually offer this to someone they expect to stick around in a major American city? My reasoning is they have to know I will constantly be looking elsewhere.

If they expect you to stay they will make it worth your while to stay.

If they do not, they will continue to pay you very little and stress you out daily and force you to leave. (After you get fed up with it all)

That makes sense. I guess the thing I'm having trouble getting around is if my initial $13 was at or below what she expected to pay me, why would she even ask for a lower offer. Or is this just a normal thing HR people do, get a low and high range?
 

Riceninja

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if theyre stressing huge responsibility, why is the salary range 20-30k? don't mean to antagonize but grocery baggers make 20k a year. you're a college graduate too. what kind of job is this if you dont mind me asking?
 

brxndxn

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Okay.. When a company asks how long you plan on working there... NEVER FUCKING SAY 2 YEARS OR LESS!!! Say something like, "Well I am hoping that I can make a career here.." or "I'm in it for the long-haul."

For the skilled worker, it takes a company about 2 years before that worker is trained enough to even make the company money..

The biggest problem with my generation (Millennials) is that we aren't loyal worth a shit. We say things like, "Well.. it's not a real job."

I can say this.. I stayed at my company right out of college (almost 3 years now..) and I am kicking ass.. I did horrible in college - but I did manage to graduate. My friends that went from job to job are mostly jobless now.. even the ones that kicked my ass in college.

The 2-year rule is the best advice any of my professors ever gave me.. and it used to be a 5-year rule..

 

Farang

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
Okay.. When a company asks how long you plan on working there... NEVER FUCKING SAY 2 YEARS OR LESS!!! Say something like, "Well I am hoping that I can make a career here.." or "I'm in it for the long-haul."

For the skilled worker, it takes a company about 2 years before that worker is trained enough to even make the company money..

The biggest problem with my generation (Millennials) is that we aren't loyal worth a shit. We say things like, "Well.. it's not a real job."

I can say this.. I stayed at my company right out of college (almost 3 years now..) and I am kicking ass.. I did horrible in college - but I did manage to graduate. My friends that went from job to job are mostly jobless now.. even the ones that kicked my ass in college.

The 2-year rule is the best advice any of my professors ever gave me.. and it used to be a 5-year rule..

To be more specific, she asked why I wanted the job. I said I planned on getting a paralegal certificate and wanted to work in the legal industry while doing so. She asked how long until I became a paralegal. I said 2 years. The job is a file clerk position so I think it is expected that people expect to advance, I didn't think it was too bad to say because where else do you go from that position besides paralegal. Plus it was sort of a lie since I actually intend to go to law school.
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: her209
$10 seems rather low, no offense.

None taken. I'll put it this way:

$10 - money made while doing exactly what I am now, job searching
$11 - "
$12 - experienced gained while still saving a modest amount each month
$13 - experienced gained while living comfortably enough and saving a bit each month

 

EGGO

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As someone has already said, unless you're living with your parents (and again, nothing wrong with that) you are definitely going to be hurting.
 

Evadman

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Post the position or something so we can give constructive feedback.
 
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