What breed of Dog do you want (or own)

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thephoenix

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What the hell so is wrong with someone giving away a pet they can no longer keep, to someone who is willing to give it a lifelong home?

Okay.. as stated before an adoption fee and application is used to deter the unwanted. Generally, if someone has ill intentions for the pet they are looking to aquire, they go looking for the free adds, or puppies in boxes with a free sign. That is plain fact.
If you got lucky and got a wonderful pet for free, and are providing a wonderful home for said pet, that's great.
Sadly more often than not that is not the case. The adoption fee, application process, home-check, is merely a means to ensure the safety of the pet. People who have a problem with the processes are usually people who have something to hide. People who have problems with paying an adoption fee, also often have a problem with paying for vet care.

Isn't that one less pet that would have otherwise ended up at the local pound? Oh wait... it's one less pet that can be "rescued" by do-gooders looking forward to their next $500 adoption fee....

Heh.. What rescue did you apply at that asked for $500.00?
Unless they had to spend a very very hefty amount of money on medical bills for them,
the amount a ( true ) rescue charges for an adoption fee usually ranges between $50 -$250. Depending on the rescue, and how much ( out of their own pocket ) money they had to use to care for the pet. There are some that do charge more.

Plenty of free/low-cost puppies from good homes are out there, if you use COMMON SENSE when shopping. People, don't believe for a minute that you MUST drop hundreds of dollars on your next pet to ensure that it came from a good home. Buying from somebody who printed up an "application" that they googled off the web, and paying them a hefty "adoption fee" guarantees you NOTHING........................


Where do you think the puppies come from? From 1) people who know absolutely nothing about breeding, and could care less about health or temperament. 2) People who wanted to show the miracle of birth off to their kids, again not caring about health or temperament. 3) "It was an accidental breeding."
A great deal of those puppies DO end up in shelters and rescues. Its the "do-gooders" that are there to care for their unwanted pets.
And atleast the do-gooders take the time to make sure the pets are healthy and stable enough to be adopted before they allowed to go into a new home.
If something was to arise after said adoption you can call on those "do-gooders" for support, and if for any reason you cannot keep said pet the "do-gooders" will take them back.
Again the fee and the application process is because they care about where their pet is going.
 

gsaldivar

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Originally posted by: thephoenix
People who have a problem with the processes are usually people who have something to hide. People who have problems with paying an adoption fee, also often have a problem with paying for vet care...people who know absolutely nothing about breeding...People who wanted to show the miracle of birth off to their kids...

Once again... because these issues MIGHT be true in SOME cases, doesn't necessarily them true in MOST or ALL cases. Making a judgement about someone's character and ability based on the fact that they would rather not pay your "rescue organization" a hefty mandatory adoption fee; or because they don't feel like sharing numerous pages of personal information with you; or because they would rather not invite your "rescuers" into their home to investigate and critique their lifestyle & "compatibility" with the pet they want to adopt, is just retarded. :thumbsdown:

Adoption fee usually ranges between $50 -$250...There are some that do charge more.

It could be $50 or $500. The point isn't the dollar amount, it's the fact that some "rescuers" claim that this mandatory "adoption" money is automatic protection from the evil private sellers' puppy mills, etc. Some "rescuers", such as yourself, often go so far as to claim that choosing to acquire a pet from a private seller rather than using their own fee & application-based "adoption process" is inherently wrong and dangerous simply for the fact that someone MIGHT end up supporting or supplying a puppy mill.

There are many very responsible pet owners out there, and those people shouldn't be made to feel that it's wrong for them to list their pets privately for sale, or to seek their next pet from a private listing, or give up their pet to someone who is willing to provide it a better home for it without asking for a hefty payment in return. :thumbsdown:

There are many worthy organizations out there providing a respectable public service by rescuing and caring for unwanted pets. But it's wrong to browbeat people into believing that they MUST piss away hundreds of dollars to a "rescue organization" when purchasing a pet.

There is NOTHING WRONG with looking for a "good deal" on a pet. All I'm saying is, the fact that someone fills out some application and forks over $50 or $500 guarantees them nothing more that they might have otherwise gotten from a private seller for hundreds of dollars less. :beer:
 

thephoenix

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I think I pointed out that many individuals ( who are privately rehoming their pets ) also ask for an application to be filled out and a fee. This is because they want to make sure they know where their beloved pets are going. I have no problem with those people, I have helped many. As I stated before, many of the wrong types of would be pet owners go for the freebies. That's a chance a lot of people do not want to take.
And seriously, if the would be owner had nothing to hide, there should be no objection to a home check.

I don't consider anything that I've said to be brow beating. I just stated simple facts. If you have a problem with someone stating the realities of the horrors in the pet world, then that is your problem.

Perhaps if you ever had to deal with something like this reality you might feel a little differently. But then again maybe not.
 

Gunther

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Miniature Schnauzer
I love this breed. I will probably have one all of my life. My parents have one and when I graduate college I am stealing him.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: thephoenix
I think I pointed out that many individuals ( who are privately rehoming their pets ) also ask for an application to be filled out and a fee. This is because they want to make sure they know where their beloved pets are going. I have no problem with those people, I have helped many. As I stated before, many of the wrong types of would be pet owners go for the freebies. That's a chance a lot of people do not want to take.
And seriously, if the would be owner had nothing to hide, there should be no objection to a home check.

I don't consider anything that I've said to be brow beating. I just stated simple facts. If you have a problem with someone stating the realities of the horrors in the pet world, then that is your problem.

Perhaps if you ever had to deal with something like this reality you might feel a little differently. But then again maybe not.

you are just pointing out worst-case scenarios. There is no reason for a common-sense person to avoid adopting a pet from an "uncertified" private party . . . IF they are willing to ask the right questions and have the discernment to determine "truth".

And there are "puppy mills" that are state-certified that have horrible contitions also.
:roll:
 

Stifko

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I was thinking about checking out this dog, but nobody replied to my email yet.

Getting an 8 year old dog is kind of setting yourself up for a heartbreak though.
 

zerocool1

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used to have a golden, I wouldn't mind having another pure breed one or even a beagle. I want a dog with a lot of energy. I'm not a small dog person. Its funny, my friend has a chihuaha(sp?) that's named Louie like Louis Vuitton and she carries him around in the bag.
 

Mokole

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I have a wolfdog.

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http://www.wolfeducation.org/ > about > so you want a wolf? Or > newsletters & brochures > streaming video

Actually he probably has very little wolf in him because most of the time he is very lethargic. Wolfdogs are worse then the most hyper of huskies.

He was rescued for a third or forth time from people who left him to die on there porch and is now going to spend the rest of his previously traumatized life in my safe home.


This was my first foster for a long time. He is a Husky and Great Dane mix. (Best. Personality. Ever...)

http://www.adoptahusky.org/feature.html

With several years of experience as the board member of a major breed rescue in my area, I can honestly say that what we do to companion animals on a daily basis is nothing less then a perpetuated holocaust.

In my county alone, they killed over 400 homeless dogs in one day. Yes, one day. Not year, not month, not in a week.... they were all killed in one day. When my small overfilled breed specific rescue started getting 7 calls and 7 emails a day (thats 14 different people) trying to dump there huskies on us(yes,a northern breed and this is Texas), we stopped accepting any owner surrendered dogs and now only save dogs from death row. Keep in mind that we have around 20 fosters (temp homes) and place a dog on average 1 every 2 weeks.

With 3 - 4 million animals euthanized every year, this issue isn't a problem, it is an epidemic of massive proportions that will only stop if everyone does there part.

The only way to make sure this stops is if you sterilize your animals and follow a simple rule; "Don't breed or buy while shelter animals die". Personally, that is more important to me then all the donations in the world (although that would help too because we pay for most of it out of our own pocket).

BTW: Wolfdog, Husky and GSD are my top three breeds. (anything close to a wolf)
 

railer

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GSD's are the best. Smart, loyal, and big enough to actually serve some function other than looking "cute".

Here's my mutts.....A GSD and a lab/husky mix.

2 dumb dogs
 
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