That's exactly how I describe mine when asked about the performance, and we have the same car. "It's decent"
2015 Tesla Model S 90D
It's a decent car.
2015 Tesla Model S 90D
It's a decent car.
I've been eyeing the P100D for a while now. In terms of luxury appointments and ride quality, it lags frustratingly behind similarly priced luxury performance cars, such as the S63 AMG. If I buy one, it will be solely for the autonomous driving aspects ... and the off-the-line acceleration.
That's exactly how I describe mine when asked about the performance, and we have the same car. "It's decent"
I've been eyeing the P100D for a while now. In terms of luxury appointments and ride quality, it lags frustratingly behind similarly priced luxury performance cars, such as the S63 AMG. If I buy one, it will be solely for the autonomous driving aspects ... and the off-the-line acceleration.
That's exactly how I describe mine when asked about the performance, and we have the same car. "It's decent"
A lot of you people have telsas and trucks... they don't even exist in the UK lol
woOoOw £80k nissan gtr ... what are you -_- ?
How much was the car? Finance or full cash?
Test-drove one recently, it was nothing like my Volvo in terms of luxury appointments. Granted my Volvo was 12 years old (but in mint condition), but it still didn't stack up. iirc they hired Volvo's head interior designer or something recently over at Tesla, so hopefully future iterations will be nicer. I mean, technically it's a sports car (really just a high-end EV), but I really feel that they should amp up the comfort & luxury features quite a bit, because why not? It feels pretty sparse inside...barebones, even. Giant screen slapped in the middle with some leather seats. I mean, it's still very nice, but not as nice as you think it's going to be for the money. Compared to a high-end Audi, Panamera, etc. there's just no contest. With the Model 3 coming out, I hope they differentiate the X & the S with luxury features (of course, I say that & drive a piece of crap Jeep, hahaha). Some things I would like to see: (well, general features too)
1. Enhanced interior industrial design
2. Enhanced interior comfort
3. 360-degree bird's eye camera (not just a huge backup camera)
4. Usable front cameras (like Land Rovers have for parking & pulling out)
5. Heads-up display
6. Cooled seats
7. Light-up steering wheel for Autopilot (like Cadillac has for SuperCruise)
8. Apple CarPlay & Android Auto
9. Motorized frunk
10. Better shifter
There's a bunch of other minor stuff but yeah, they could use some work. I think it's important to hit features like the list above to stand out for a couple reasons: first, more cars are becoming electric (the Bolt is huge...238 miles in an average-priced vehicle, plus Volvo is going 100% EV/Hybrid-only by 2019), and second, cars like the new Honda Civic offering really crazy features for the price, like TACC with LSF, or the el-cheapo Nissan Versa offering a 360-camera. Cars are kind of going from complicated gas-powered machine to a box on wheels with an electric motor, so being able to set their vehicle apart I think will rely a lot on having a killer interior. Maybe. Or just having a zero to 60 time of 2.5 seconds with self-driving
As enticing as the model 3 sounds, I'm afraid one day they'll go the way of Saturn and owners will be left with no support, and these are all electronic in comparison.
Your point really doesn't make much sense. The Model S is an $75k (or more) car that competes with other mid-sized luxury cars. Just because Tesla, Inc. doesn't currently have a sound business model doesn't mean they can go economy on the interior. Think about what you just said, other premium brands are going to have BEVs with more luxurious interiors, probably for less money than the average S. In the face of increasing competition, Tesla should stick with a dated product because they haven't figured out a sustainable business model? If that's the case, they should sell the company now because the math only gets worse when they start selling $40k Model 3s in volume. Already the Model S/X are seeing sales declining and Tesla is going to be swimming in red ink for a while.You are aware they haven't had profitable quarters right? I think I read only 2 profitable quarters since their existence? So outfitting it even more seems like a fantasy, especially when they have more practical issues like charging stations and range still to work out. As enticing as the model 3 sounds, I'm afraid one day they'll go the way of Saturn and owners will be left with no support, and these are all electronic in comparison. As you alluded to, other established brands with upcoming electrics are more enticing.
People have been spewing that "they make them to fail" nonsense for as long as I have been alive so please explain to me why cars routinely last 200,000 mile plus without expensive engine/transmission rebuilds etc? I would not think twice about taking a long trip in a modern auto with 70-100k on it now whereas 40 years ago that was about the mileage that major components began to fail. I had a 2003 F150 that the only thing I had done to it over the entire course of 11 years of ownership was changing the oil and replacing a vacuum hose. Contrast that with cars from the 1960's, 70's, and 80's where every 3000 miles you had to do points, plugs, and condenser, check and adjust the timing if necessary and every 6-8k re-gap and possibly replace the spark plugs.Yeah not a fan of the direction cars are going. They purposely build them to fail and make them so it's not economically feasible to repair. Everything is electronic controlled, they probably even roll their own sillicon or FPGAs etc, so it's not like a repair is as simple as just replacing a resistor somewhere.
Would not really surprise me if lot of these cars have privacy issues too. Everything you do probably goes to a central server somewhere. Especially any cars that have any kind of voice recognition system.
People have been spewing that "they make them to fail" nonsense for as long as I have been alive so please explain to me why cars routinely last 200,000 mile plus without expensive engine/transmission rebuilds etc? I would not think twice about taking a long trip in a modern auto with 70-100k on it now whereas 40 years ago that was about the mileage that major components began to fail. I had a 2003 F150 that the only thing I had done to it over the entire course of 11 years of ownership was changing the oil and replacing a vacuum hose. Contrast that with cars from the 1960's, 70's, and 80's where every 3000 miles you had to do points, plugs, and condenser, check and adjust the timing if necessary and every 6-8k re-gap and possibly replace the spark plugs.
I would like to see a car that actually has 200k miles on it and is not rusted out. While those happen, they are rare, and they are usually classic cars that are only taken out in summer and stored in winter. Modern cars have all sorts of oddball issues too, like a coworker of mine had an issue with the locks freezing up if it's cold out. Little weird stuff like that seems to be more common now.
Cars now start to rust within a few years. yeah the drive trains may have gotten better, but it's everything else that's gotten worse. My dad used to sell cars and this is something he noticed too that modern cars just don't last. It used to frustrate him as he's the type of person he wants the customer to be happy, not just make the deal and that's it. He'd have customers come back a few years after they bought the car and it's already starting to rust. When you pay 20-30k for something and it starts to rust within a few years that's just not right.
Then add all these fancy electronics, it's bound to add extra failure points.
It was around $100K IIRC. I put down around $30K and financed the rest. It's paid off now.
I was trying to see if I could take up three handicapped spots at once, but wasn't able to do it:
No.
Cars may still rust, but they do NOT rust like they used to. Seriously. Detroit used to use nongalvanized steel for god's sake - those cars would be rusting on the lot and paint would be bubbled before they were paid off.
If you drive them around in snow, park them outside, never wash the salt off, and pick up a lot of rocks (dings and cracks in the paint) then new cars MIGHT rust like you're describing, but that's a lot of abuse.
lmao is that really your car? need to insert thug life memeIt was around $100K IIRC. I put down around $30K and financed the rest. It's paid off now.
I was trying to see if I could take up three handicapped spots at once, but wasn't able to do it:
It is amazing how a thread asking such a simple question as 'what are you driving' has converted this thread into a political social diatribe.