Relax man. It was a joke pic that I took for an old thread on inappropriate parking.
It was a reference back to this:
That's why Americans buy huge garbage SUVs and trucks...simply to be assholes with them.
That way you don't have to worry if some other asshole has already taken the 3 handicapped spots.
Your point really doesn't make much sense. The Model S is an $75k (or more) car that competes with other mid-sized luxury cars. Just because Tesla, Inc. doesn't currently have a sound business model doesn't mean they can go economy on the interior. Think about what you just said, other premium brands are going to have BEVs with more luxurious interiors, probably for less money than the average S. In the face of increasing competition, Tesla should stick with a dated product because they haven't figured out a sustainable business model? If that's the case, they should sell the company now because the math only gets worse when they start selling $40k Model 3s in volume. Already the Model S/X are seeing sales declining and Tesla is going to be swimming in red ink for a while.
When Tesla sells an average Model S or X at close to $100k each*, there's plenty of marginal profit per unit. The fact that the company is losing money overall just indicates that their business model is flawed or if you accept their version, that they're plowing all their free cash flow back into growth.What's hard to believe about a company in the red NOT putting more into their interiors? In no way am I saying it's right, it just is the way they've been going. How could they change their path to a more costly one without profit to drive it?
They should sell it like you ask... sure they should... absolutely. But who's going to buy it? They only have their head above water because of 1 man and everyone knows it. Whoever is buying one of these... they are brave souls, or care more about the name than making a practical choice.
You're wrong.
0% financing costs less, and so does any interest rate that is less than inflation. If inflation is 3% and your interest rate is 2%, it's cheaper to finance at 2% than it is to pay cash.
Assume the following:
At 0% interest financing over 60 months, the discounted present value of the payments, factoring in inflation, is substantially LESS than $50,000.
- Inflation of 3%
- You have $50,000 cash
- You want to buy a $50,000 vehicle
At 3% interest financing over 60 months, the discounted present value of the payments, factoring in inflation, is $50,000.
Think about it this way. If someone asked you in 1950 to pay them $10,000 either immediately or in 2017, which would you pick? $10,000 in 1950 was a substantial amount of money. $10,000 in 2017 is negligible. The same principle applies to shorter durations of time.
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Relax man. It was a joke pic that I took for an old thread on inappropriate parking.
It was a reference back to this:
@Red Squirrel We don't dump salt on our winters in the South. Kind of helps the rust problem.
My buddy has a Toyota Camry, late '90s or very early '00s, about 375,000 miles with no major issues. The car looks pretty decent.I would like to see a car that actually has 200k miles on it and is not rusted out.
New ride.
So now you're expected to store your car in the garage every day and never drive in snow? That's fine for a sports car you only take out in summer but you still need a daily driver. New cars still rust much faster than they used to. Salt is the norm, snow is the norm, parking outside is the norm for most people. They should be built to withstand that. Years back they switched to a different kind of paint that is supposedly more environmentally friendly, and since then car paint starts to peal off much faster, sometimes even only a year later. Also it's actually worse in a way to store a car in a garage (even non heated) as the heat from the engine melts the snow more and then the salt works at it faster. If it's parked outside it mostly stays frozen. My dad sold cars for a good 30 years so he's seen this trend himself. Though it really goes with everything in general. They don't want stuff to last.
I had the pleasure of meeting one of these at the drag strip a few weeks ago. It had the new A10. It got beat by a boring looking white SS sedan. The guy couldn't even get it into the 11s.
That's odd. The A10 will go 11.2-11.3 with a decently prepped track.
Surprised the Malibu SS was able to beat it, must have replaced the 24" rims with something with traction
I put 220,000 miles on an 05 civic over 11 years driving in MI winters with plenty of salt and there were no rust problems. It sat outside for the first 3 years or so of its life and was garaged that. A couple of years after we got it I stopped washing the salt off, just letting the rain do it whenever I happened to be driving in the rain. We're up to 80k on a 2011 civic and no issues there either.
I think we kinda veered off topic here, but originally I was talking about newer cars specifically. Newer cars, ex: 2010+ rust much faster than older cars. I have a 2004 and it's rusting now so they still rust but not as bad as the newer ones. I see people with brand new vehicles and they start to rust within like 1-2 years. The older cars before they switched to a different paint are not as bad.
New ride.
I was in LA/SB this weekend for business and a wedding. Rented a Camaro SS convertible to enjoy the LA heatwave and the SB wildfire. I was actually pleasantly surprised by the Camaro. The ergonomics weren't quite right (no good place for my left arm to rest), but the sound of the 455hp through the upgraded exhaust was pleasing. The ZL1 must be that much better.