What cards support DX9?

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The million-dollar question: Why?

DX9 being "required" is still a way off.

And given your current level, you wouldn't notice a performance upgrade with anything less than a Radeon 9600.

- M4H
 

modedepe

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Nvidia cards: fx5200, fx5600, fx5800, fx5900
Ati cards: 9500, 9600, 9700, 9800

What is your budget? Either a 9700np, 9800np, or fx5800 offer the best price/performance. 9600 pro does also, but it's not going to give you a big enough jump from your ti4200.
 
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Originally posted by: modedepe
Nvidia cards: fx5200, fx5600, fx5800, fx5900
Ati cards: 9500, 9600, 9700, 9800

What is your budget? Either a 9700np, 9800np, or fx5800 offer the best price/performance. 9600 pro does also, but it's not going to give you a big enough jump from your ti4200.

Note: FX5200 is the "GhettoFX" card. Think "geForce4 MX" with extra features to slow it down. Avoid.

- M4H
 

DaveSimmons

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Hear him now, and believe him later.

M4H that is. Don't buy into "needing" a DX9 card, and nothing less than a 9800 Pro / 5900 will make enough of a difference in gaming from your 4200 to be worth buying.
 

orion7144

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What about Half Life 2 and Doom3 that everyone is saying will be better with a DX9 card?
 

modedepe

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Originally posted by: orion7144
What about Half Life 2 and Doom3 that everyone is saying will be better with a DX9 card?

Hmm well, yeah they'll play better on a good dx9 card, like a 9800 as opposed to a ti4200. But it's going to run a hell of a lot worse on a dx9 card like a fx5200 as opposed to that ti4200. We won't know how these games are going to run on the dx8 cards (or any card for that matter), so for many it's better to wait. An upgrade at this point may be very unecessary.
 

orion7144

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Originally posted by: modedepe
Originally posted by: orion7144
What about Half Life 2 and Doom3 that everyone is saying will be better with a DX9 card?

Hmm well, yeah they'll play better on a good dx9 card, like a 9800 as opposed to a ti4200. But it's going to run a hell of a lot worse on a dx9 card like a fx5200 as opposed to that ti4200. We won't know how these games are going to run on the dx8 cards (or any card for that matter), so for many it's better to wait. An upgrade at this point may be very unecessary.

Thanks
 

BoomAM

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Originally posted by: modedepe
Originally posted by: orion7144
What about Half Life 2 and Doom3 that everyone is saying will be better with a DX9 card?

Hmm well, yeah they'll play better on a good dx9 card, like a 9800 as opposed to a ti4200. But it's going to run a hell of a lot worse on a dx9 card like a fx5200 as opposed to that ti4200. We won't know how these games are going to run on the dx8 cards (or any card for that matter), so for many it's better to wait. An upgrade at this point may be very unecessary.
Your Ti4200 is fine for most games. I`d upgrade early next year if i was you.
And why does everyone label Doom3 as a DX9 game? It uses OpenGL for a start, and i dont think it uses any DX9 specific features. It more of a DX8 game, with all the DX8 features being used.
 

McArra

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Hear him now, and believe him later.

M4H that is. Don't buy into "needing" a DX9 card, and nothing less than a 9800 Pro / 5900 will make enough of a difference in gaming from your 4200 to be worth buying.

Starting from a 9500Pro if using AA and AF the difference is huge between a DX9 card and a 4200Ti.
 

BoomAM

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Originally posted by: McArra
Starting from a 9500Pro if using AA and AF the difference is huge between a DX9 card and a 4200Ti.
So your saying that FX5200 is better than a Ti4600 just cos it supports most of the DX9 features?
Just cos a card supports DX9 doesnt make it a better card than one that doesnt.

Just a query, are the FX5900s true DX9 parts?
I mean the FX5200/5600/5800s supported every DX9 feature, apart from displacement mapping, which is required for by the basic DX9 spec.
Did nVidia add the support for displacement mapping to the FX5900?
 

McArra

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Originally posted by: BoomAM
Originally posted by: McArra
Starting from a 9500Pro if using AA and AF the difference is huge between a DX9 card and a 4200Ti.
So your saying that FX5200 is better than a Ti4600 just cos it supports most of the DX9 features?
Just cos a card supports DX9 doesnt make it a better card than one that doesnt.

Just a query, are the FX5900s true DX9 parts?
I mean the FX5200/5600/5800s supported every DX9 feature, apart from displacement mapping, which is required for by the basic DX9 spec.
Did nVidia add the support for displacement mapping to the FX5900?

I'm telling every card that is 9500Pro or better(DX9) will make an enormous difference with the 4200Ti with AA AF enabled. The FX5200 is crap.
 

Eagle17

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Originally posted by: BoomAM<br
So your saying that FX5200 is better than a Ti4600 just cos it supports most of the DX9 features?
Just cos a card supports DX9 doesnt make it a better card than one that doesnt.

Just a query, are the FX5900s true DX9 parts?
I mean the FX5200/5600/5800s supported every DX9 feature, apart from displacement mapping, which is required for by the basic DX9 spec.
Did nVidia add the support for displacement mapping to the FX5900?

Ok from what nvidia marketing tells us the all of the nv3x based cards support displacement mapping, however they are turned of in drivers.

as far as 5200fx being crap that is true already games like Tomb Raider and auqamark2 are coming out with DX9 features. There may even be some new reviews up soon as to how big of a performance hit fp32 is going to have on the fx series...
 
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