What console do you 'personally' own?

[sweenish]

The generation stops being the next one when it's available for purchase.

The Xbox One and PS4 are current gen, the 360 and PS3 are now last gen.

 

[mmntech]

Sorry but sales of the WiiU are not something to boast about.

Thing is the Wii U is not a bad system. It's Nintendo that's the problem. For starters, they need to stop acting like it's still 1994. Nintendo doesn't carry nearly as much weight as they did back then. They do not set the ground rules for the industry. They also keep holding on to archaic policies like region locking and digital sales tied to hardware, which both of their competitors abandoned ages ago.

Secondly, Nintendo needs to stop acting like Japan is the only market that matters. Yes, Japanese aren't big on online multiplayer. However, the rest of the world is. Ignoring it is costing them some sales for sure. They also badly need to get more global developers both in house and as third parties. Those who can make games that appeal to non-Japanese cultures.

Anyway, that's my mini Wii U rant. I actually still do want to get one since I've been a Zelda fan for a long time. The demo they showed off at E3 looked sweet.

 

[slayernine]

What kind of troll poll is this...

 

[mnewsham]

The Xbox One library suits my interests much more at this time.

It's all about the games.

That's what I don't get, neither console has games that I feel are "MUST" play games right now. I can't think of a single game. Titanfall for xbone was somewhat of one of these games, but it got stale pretty quick. Infamous for PS4 was another. But I didn't consider either to be console sellers particularly.

At this point the only reason I have a PS4 over the xbone is because neither has games I NEED to play, but the PS4 will play all the multiplatforms better than the Xbone. That and Destiny is somewhat sony exclusive, if not entirely exclusive.

Xbone at the time, was more expensive and had nothing the PS4 didn't, and lacked the GPU power the PS4 had for $100 less. I will probably get an xbox one later on now that it's lost the kinect and come down in price, but I am going to wait until there is a game that is xbox exclusive I really want to play, halo 5 or halo collection might be it, will have to wait and see.

 

[purbeast0]

That's what I don't get, neither console has games that I feel are "MUST" play games right now. I can't think of a single game. Titanfall for xbone was somewhat of one of these games, but it got stale pretty quick. Infamous for PS4 was another. But I didn't consider either to be console sellers particularly.

At this point the only reason I have a PS4 over the xbone is because neither has games I NEED to play, but the PS4 will play all the multiplatforms better than the Xbone. That and Destiny is somewhat sony exclusive, if not entirely exclusive.

Xbone at the time, was more expensive and had nothing the PS4 didn't, and lacked the GPU power the PS4 had for $100 less. I will probably get an xbox one later on now that it's lost the kinect and come down in price, but I am going to wait until there is a game that is xbox exclusive I really want to play, halo 5 or halo collection might be it, will have to wait and see.

bolded is false. it had ryse, forza, and killer instinct.

 

[mnewsham]

bolded is false. it had ryse, forza, and killer instinct.

None of which i consider must play games in the slightest, Halo, gears of war, those are microsoft exclusives. A single forza game which wasn't as good as previous games was not what I had in mind.

Most people wouldn't consider any of those games "must plays", they just happened to be out. I could name PS4 games too if you wanted, but we both know that they are of the same calibre as ryse, forza, and killer instinct.

 

[TeknoBug]

PS4 this time around, better hardware and at the time cheaper than XB1 plus the antics MS tried to pull last summer, it's obvious to why it got ahead in sales. I'm happy with the PS4, Planetside 2 is coming and I'm going to wait for Gran Turismo 7 which is supposed to come around winter-spring 2015 and meanwhile I will be playing NHL 15 and perhaps Driveclub depending on how well received it is.

Last gen I had a 360 because it had a year start before the PS3 and titles like Forza 2, 3 and 4 were great except 4 turned me off with it being heavily based around DLC (I hear Forza 5 is the same way). However I haven't played my 360 in about 2 years now, I used to play Madden 09 or NHL 10 just about every night (bought NHL 11, 12 but retunred both of them very shortly after release). Forza Horizon 2 doesn't really have me interested since I have Forza Horizon and it got boring fairly quickly.

 

[Lil Frier]

OK, just because those games didn't sell you on the console, saying that the One "had nothing the PS4 didn't," is still factually a lie. Regardless of what you do or don't like, the One launched with plenty the PS4 didn't have, or it got it quickly. That includes that trio of games, the Kinect, more multimedia capabilities, and some other stuff I just don't care to research.

So, point being, lying about the existence of games because you don't like them isn't a logically-sound argument.

 

[purbeast0]

None of which i consider must play games in the slightest, Halo, gears of war, those are microsoft exclusives. A single forza game which wasn't as good as previous games was not what I had in mind.

Most people wouldn't consider any of those games "must plays", they just happened to be out. I could name PS4 games too if you wanted, but we both know that they are of the same calibre as ryse, forza, and killer instinct.

whether you wanted them or not, it's false. i was just pointing that out.

 

[smackababy]

None of which i consider must play games in the slightest, Halo, gears of war, those are microsoft exclusives. A single forza game which wasn't as good as previous games was not what I had in mind.

Most people wouldn't consider any of those games "must plays", they just happened to be out. I could name PS4 games too if you wanted, but we both know that they are of the same calibre as ryse, forza, and killer instinct.

Forza 5 is a better game than Forza 4. The only thing it is missing is cars and tracks, but the gameplay itself is better. Even some multiplatform games on the Xbox One are better than the PS4 (*gasp* Oh, no he didn't!). Fifa 14 is better on the Xbox One due to content (Legends only available on Xbox).

And, there is no game that matches KI on the PS4, period. Does it even have a fighting game? I doubt it. And, there isn't a single racing game of the same caliber as Forza on the PS4. Shall we go into Titanfall or DR3?

 

[mnewsham]

There are currently 260 games announced or released for Xbox one.

Exclusive = 32
Microsoft exclusive = 14
Console exclusive or timed = 21/3
Multiplatform = 186
Playable = 59 available to purchase (12 of these are exclusive to Xbox One)

There are currently 289 games announced or released for PS4. (14 of which have been confirmed as free-to-play).

Exclusive = 27 (2 of these are free-to-play)
Sony Exclusive = 22
Console exclusive and/or timed = 76/3 (9 of these are free-to-play)
Multiplatform = 159 (3 of these are free-to-play)
Playable = 96 available to purchase (10 of these are exclusive to PS4)




Seems like they are both pretty neck and neck for exclusives, can't see how anyone could advocate for either being the "winner"

 

[Lil Frier]

Forza 5 is a better game than Forza 4. The only thing it is missing is cars and tracks, but the gameplay itself is better. Even some multiplatform games on the Xbox One are better than the PS4 (*gasp* Oh, no he didn't!). Fifa 14 is better on the Xbox One due to content (Legends only available on Xbox).

And, there is no game that matches KI on the PS4, period. Does it even have a fighting game? I doubt it. And, there isn't a single racing game of the same caliber as Forza on the PS4. Shall we go into Titanfall or DR3?

Yes, the gameplay is better, to say that the "only" thing missing is tracks and cars is understating that quite a bit. They halved the car content, and did about the same for the tracks. It' s a huge cut to the core content of the game, so I think "only" is a bad word to describe the matter. Just to complain a little, I hate how they took out the 2002 Camaro SS, only leaving the 35th Anniversary iteration in. It's the car my dad owns, the non-Anniversary one, so it kinda sucks to be forced to drive a different version of it.

Also, I don't think Titanfall is anything to brag about. Killzone's the same kind of game, a multiplayer FPS, but they don't charge for the DLC. Dead Rising 3 is probably something that most could replace with Infamous unless zombies were a must-have (which I'd hope is no longer the case in 2014).

 

[TeknoBug]

Yes DO go on about Titanfall... that game sucks.

 

[Sonikku]

Here is a question: why does it matter which product sells more if the games you want are on one of the consoles? Justin Bieber sells more than your favorite artist. Does that mean you are going to reconsider the kind of music you enjoy? Which console you own should be a decision of which offers you what you want (games, graphical power, apps, features, etc), not based on which has sold more units in the first 8 months of a 8 or so year life cycle.

I understand what you're getting at, but there is more to it than that. The console with the most sales gets the most support. I'm reminded of when the PS2 launched and it was a total chore to program for versus anything else that generation. And boom. More games than anybody. It appears when your system is a bigger hit with customers, developers will try to get their product on your hardware no matter what, regardless of any such challenges.

Now Sony has a hardware that in addition to being dominant, is also easy to program for and more powerful. It might not make a big difference in the short term because Microsoft skillfully locked down deals with Titanfall devs and others before it became obvious who would have market dominance. But over the long haul, Sony will have the edge in games.

 

[Lil Frier]

Yes DO go on about Titanfall... that game sucks.

Nah, it doesn't suck. I just don't get the love people have for it. The game feels poorly balanced as a whole (especially for CtF), and of late, the servers have been total crap for me (on multiple Internet connections).

I mean, I'd still say it's better than Destiny, from a hype-to-reality standpoint, for me. I played the beta of that, and I'm seeing people have Internet orgasms over it, while I'm wondering why a game with a story that didn't get explained well, horribly unbalanced PvP, and questionable endgame content is received so well.

 

[Arkaign]

I agree that it doesn't matter. Some of the most fun I've ever had gaming have been with consoles that weren't sales leaders. OG Xbox, Turbografx, etc.

Sales wise, the XB1 is having a god awful 2014, and their plan to boost marketshare in Europe collapsed so incredibly that it's honestly amazing. I think things will pick up once the price gets to $299, that's when a lot of the market buys in. A lot of people forget that tens of millions of customers only VERY recently bought a 360 or PS3.

The XB1 will never come close to PS4 sales globally, but it can be vibrant/relevant in the US if they do it right. This coming holiday is critical for them here. As of now the gap by the month is pretty solid, but a $299 bundle for Nov/Dec combined with PS4 supply shortages (there is strong PS4 demand globally, the XB1 is only in demand in NA/UK) could see the XB1 virtually tie the PS4 month to month during that time here in the states. Then they have to keep that demand steady through the year instead of having it collapse. The problem ahead of that is that Amazon has been tracking the PS4 Destiny preorder since launch VERY solidly, I think we're going to see records set in September that nobody ever dreamt possible. Baseline PS4 demand seems to be ~50k/week on the low side, combine that with a half million extra consoles sold for the bundle, along with the Destiny bump, and we may see close to 1M PS4 and a decent XB1 boost as well, but even then probably 3:1 PS4/XB1 split, meaning the US install gap would be over 1M at that point.

$399 is not working, at all. June NPD was a massive PR trick designed to jump-start them, but July NPDs will hopefully jar them back to a reality that they can't spin, and use that inspiration to $299 this baby.

May NPD was abominable, basically because Microsoft announced the $399 SKU a full month ahead of release (an unheard of decision, you always keep the price cuts to yourself ahead of time so you don't sabotage sales). So with June being a 5-week month + a bubble of people waiting out May to buy in June instead = back to around March weekly sales rates. The announcement of the $399 SKU was timed to distract from the horrendous April NPD results, and then the even worse May NPDs were buried under E3 news. July NPD though, will tell us the baseline of the $399 SKU, and sales charting from Amazon, Best Buy, and GameStop strongly indicates that the $399 SKU is selling just as bad if not worse than the $449/$499 Kinect SKUs before it.

It goes a long way towards the logic that 'price is not the main problem' with the XB1. It's perception and value in the minds of the consumer. I feel $299 could crack that wide open, if Microsoft is willing to make that investment. Yes it would mean selling at a loss, but I think it would really jump start things in a way that $399 can't do. I doubt Sony would follow suit this year.

And either way, none of this has much to do with enjoying the console. 95% of the fun is down to personal taste anyway. I very much understand loving one game series and not enjoying another, preferring certain controllers, etc. Personally the XB1 does nothing for me, there's nothing about it that I like, want, or need. But that's just me, I can totally understand the exact opposite position if someone DOES enjoy the hell out of it.

 

[Lil Frier]

I don't know about going that low. They're likely already borderline on losing money on the sans-Kinect models (as the Kinect was valued at $75 but being added for $100). Dropping $100 more means they lose a big chunk of money on every console sold, and I think going that far does the brand a lot of bad, from the corporate/stockholder perspective.

Honestly, it could be that either option ($300 and more sales at a loss or $400 and fewer sales at a nearly-neutral return) could result in a phasing out of the console market for the company. I doubt they'd want to lose money on the consoles for the next 8-10 years, and I doubt they'd want to buy into another generation of consoles if this one bleeds money.

I find it hard to believe that there's a real answer. Handing out big-name titles like they're doing with Madden and Sunset Overdrive in the fall might be all that they can potentially do. It's LIKE a $50-60 price cut, but they don't lose as much.

 

[purbeast0]

we never got an answer as to why "personally" is in quotes.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Nah, it doesn't suck. I just don't get the love people have for it. The game feels poorly balanced as a whole (especially for CtF), and of late, the servers have been total crap for me (on multiple Internet connections).

I mean, I'd still say it's better than Destiny, from a hype-to-reality standpoint, for me. I played the beta of that, and I'm seeing people have Internet orgasms over it, while I'm wondering why a game with a story that didn't get explained well, horribly unbalanced PvP, and questionable endgame content is received so well.

Cause a beta is going to give away the story...from a game franchise that will last for 10 years...and the game will never get balance updates right? Even when bungie confirmed some things would get a nerf or boost right?

Right...

 

[Lil Frier]

Cause a beta is going to give away the story...from a game franchise that will last for 10 years...and the game will never get balance updates right? Even when bungie confirmed some things would get a nerf or boost right?

Right...

/sigh

My point is that I played an unbalanced, story-light game, and it made me not want to play it. There wasn't a compelling thing during the beta that made me said I'd want Destiny over Halo (which has a great story and decent multiplayer) or CoD (which has passable campaigns and occasionally-good multiplayer) or a new Borderlands (which is more-entertaining, in the FPSRPG realm, to me). It's not to call the game out-and-out bad, it's to say that the initial impression the game gave me is that it's not something I want.

But take my statements to the extreme, play the sarcasm card, and whatever else you feel the need to do because I don't have a Destiny boner.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Neither.

I'll buy one or both when they have enough games that I want to play. When I do buy one or both it will be based on the games not which one is selling more units. PS4 is outselling the X1 2:1 and PS4 has better hardware, but if the Crackdown reboot is good enough I see an X1 in my future. If PS4 adds enough besides the Last of Us remake I will own it too.

I currently have a PS2, PS3, PS Vita, Xbox 360 and a gaming PC.

 

[mnewsham]

so far the poll is at 8 Xbone to 24 PS4

That's fairly close to the 2:1 disparity we have been hearing about.

 

[Arkaign]

I see 2015 dwarfing the 2014 numbers just going on the incredible lineup that it brings. So many games delayed into 2015, and major franchise releases. I think Evolve is the latest game to get bumped, then of course Witcher 3, Bloodborne, Halo 5, etc/infinity. Combine that with $349 (PS4 by Summer '15?), and maybe $299 XB1, and you have a recipe for the pair of them to put up really solid numbers.

A lot more groups of gaming friends will have moved on thanks to a few million more of each being out there thanks to this coming holiday season. Networking/social media effect.

 

[PricklyPete]

None right now...will buy XB1 sometime in the next 12 months.

I play with a group of six old friends and none of us really care about the graphics level as we are pretty happy with 360 on that front, but we like the controller of the Xbox systems and do not want to have PSN and Live accounts at the same time during the transition. Either system will likely have the games we want to play.

 

[cmdrdredd]

/sigh

My point is that I played an unbalanced, story-light game, and it made me not want to play it. There wasn't a compelling thing during the beta that made me said I'd want Destiny over Halo (which has a great story and decent multiplayer) or CoD (which has passable campaigns and occasionally-good multiplayer) or a new Borderlands (which is more-entertaining, in the FPSRPG realm, to me). It's not to call the game out-and-out bad, it's to say that the initial impression the game gave me is that it's not something I want.

But take my statements to the extreme, play the sarcasm card, and whatever else you feel the need to do because I don't have a Destiny boner.

Why don't you just be honest, you want it to be Xbox exclusive and it isn't. You've complained about Bungie being independent before.