What Did Obama Destroy?

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elitejp

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Too bad nobody can answer your question. Rather, like normal, its just a bunch of name calling
 

Engineer

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More coverage does not equal better coverage.

Great we have 20M more covered...
The 250M who had coverage prior to obama care now all have shittier coverage.

Newsflash - the shittier coverage started well before Obamacare. It's been going downhill since I picked up insurance in the early 90's and the people before me say the same.
 
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Jhhnn

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More coverage does not equal better coverage.

Great we have 20M more covered...
The 250M who had coverage prior to obama care now all have shittier coverage.

Just because you believe it doesn't mean it's true.
 

BonzaiDuck

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First, he broke the color-barrier to the highest office.

Second -- and it took me a while to figure it out, being Caucasian for 70 years -- he destroyed the myth that we live in a post-racialist America. You only need to look at news-vids of Tea-Party demonstrations in 2010, and see how the opposition blocked every reasonable thing he might have done in addition to things against the grain of any ideology. And finally, their choice of this Disgusting Low-Life Filth we have for "YOUR" President of MY country now.

There is a psychology that nobody fully admits being part of, which overrides every sensible policy discussion we could have here or anywhere else.

Obama didn't do damage to anything except the overriding assumptions of bigots. That's why Trump is constantly still making Obama the scapegoat for everything. They CANNOT abide by any legacy for the O-man or the reality that he did better than his cornpone predecessor. And -- at least -- Bush was a gentleman.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Look elsewhere.

But pay attention.

The GOP extremists now in control have been very clear about what they want to do. They want to completely eliminate the federal level of government barring those things that correspond to their narrow view of government. It took a hundred years or so to build those institutions, and they are systematically doing everything they can to destroy them.

THAT is extreme partisanship, and it doesn't recognize the reality that the wisdom of many long dead, some still living and generations of Americans was ingredient to the blood and sweat and treasure and trouble that went into creating those institutions.

There is less of anything "partisan" about such a statement, but what I describe with it is the near-insanity of trying to raise up some sort of ante-Bellum Beulah-land with a pie-in-the-sky laissez-faire idea that failed long ago. Otherwise, those institutions would not exist.

The Myth of Obama "destroying" or damaging anything is a façade and smokescreen to the real pending destruction.
 

Atreus21

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Aug 21, 2007
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But pay attention.

The GOP extremists now in control have been very clear about what they want to do. They want to completely eliminate the federal level of government barring those things that correspond to their narrow view of government. It took a hundred years or so to build those institutions, and they are systematically doing everything they can to destroy them.

Which institutions?
 

sao123

Lifer
May 27, 2002
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Just because you believe it doesn't mean it's true.

I dont have to believe it, i live it. My coverage was improving each cycle since 2002. My bc/bs PPO coverage was top of the line. The day obamacare went into effect, my copays went up and the deductables went up, and the coverages went way down.
 

Jhhnn

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I dont have to believe it, i live it. My coverage was improving each cycle since 2002. My bc/bs PPO coverage was top of the line. The day obamacare went into effect, my copays went up and the deductables went up, and the coverages went way down.

Which obviously doesn't cover the other 250M people you mentioned. Just you.
 

Indus

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May 11, 2002
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The myth that the last 6 presidents were any good.

When the dust settles Obama will be rated much higher than who came before and after him which is really sad because all that means is America fucked itself because it couldn't stand an outsider was better than the good old boy network.
 

Jhhnn

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Nov 11, 1999
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Well not only me... but at least 15,000 others who share the same employer and insurance.

That's still not 250M. You claimed that your own experience is universal, something you couldn't prove if your life depended upon it.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Sounds like your employer changed plans to save money and let you blame it on the ACA.

Amazing how many times that story has been repeated around here isn't it? Yet they still don't get it, their employer dicked them over not the ACA.
 

Atreus21

Lifer
Aug 21, 2007
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Sounds like your employer changed plans to save money and let you blame it on the ACA.

Amazing how many times that story has been repeated around here isn't it? Yet they still don't get it, their employer dicked them over not the ACA.

haha. Tomorrow the minimum wage gets raised to $50 an hour. Half of America gets laid off.

Those darn greedy employers. The gun didn't hurt you. It was the bullet's fault.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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Well not only me... but at least 15,000 others who share the same employer and insurance.

my coverage is as good as it always was.

either you're exaggerating for effect, or just ignorant. Some people got nailed, some people improved, some people noticed no change. Oh hey--democracy!
 

sao123

Lifer
May 27, 2002
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my coverage is as good as it always was.

either you're exaggerating for effect, or just ignorant. Some people got nailed, some people improved, some people noticed no change. Oh hey--democracy!

Great, lets bring back 1946-1960. Some people benefit, some suffer. Boom - Trump Democracy
 
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