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sandorski

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Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Well I know I certainly feel safer knowing irresponsible people can carry a concealed weapon. :thumbsup:

You've NEVER forgotten to lock something? Lost your car keys?

You've NEVER made an innocent mistake?

I certainly feel safer knowing ATOT is populated with virtually perfect god like creatures.

WOW...

Meh you have to remember that guns are rare and exotic to many people. They may have never even held one let alone carried one on a daily basis. So of course they can't understand how it is just another object to the op that you leave the house with everyday.

It should be "rare" and "exotic". That's the problem with Gun Proliferation, people lose respect for what a Gun is and what it can do.
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Well I know I certainly feel safer knowing irresponsible people can carry a concealed weapon. :thumbsup:

You've NEVER forgotten to lock something? Lost your car keys?

You've NEVER made an innocent mistake?

I certainly feel safer knowing ATOT is populated with virtually perfect god like creatures.

WOW...

Meh you have to remember that guns are rare and exotic to many people. They may have never even held one let alone carried one on a daily basis. So of course they can't understand how it is just another object to the op that you leave the house with everyday.

It should be "rare" and "exotic". That's the problem with Gun Proliferation, people lose respect for what a Gun is and what it can do.

I disagree, everyone should own or at least have fired one once in their lifetime.

(not a gun owner, but ill get one when im out of school, and i have owned a few in the past)
 

adairusmc

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Glad you found it.

Now go buy another handgun, just to spite those who say you shouldn't own one.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Well I know I certainly feel safer knowing irresponsible people can carry a concealed weapon. :thumbsup:

You've NEVER forgotten to lock something? Lost your car keys?

You've NEVER made an innocent mistake?

I certainly feel safer knowing ATOT is populated with virtually perfect god like creatures.

WOW...

Meh you have to remember that guns are rare and exotic to many people. They may have never even held one let alone carried one on a daily basis. So of course they can't understand how it is just another object to the op that you leave the house with everyday.

It should be "rare" and "exotic". That's the problem with Gun Proliferation, people lose respect for what a Gun is and what it can do.

I disagree, everyone should own or at least have fired one once in their lifetime.

(not a gun owner, but ill get one when im out of school, and i have owned a few in the past)

Being familiar with a gun is ok, but to have it just as another "thing" increases the probability that it will be used inappropriately.
 

loic2003

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I hope you don't have kids if you're the sort of clown who doesn't know where his killing devices are.

Yay for guns!
 

Xyo II

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Amused
:::sigh:::

OK guys. How about next time you have a brain fart and forget ANYTHING or forget to lock ANYTHING, you should lose your rights to own/use that object?

People are fallible. This extends to EVERYTHING in their lives. What matters is do they take due caution. In this case he does. He had ONE minor brain fart and you want to strip him of his Constitutional Rights.

WTF people? He knows it was stupid. But I can see that it is NOT the norm. Too bad you guys cannot.

sure i forget stuff.

but i would think i would take better care when carrying something LIKE A GUN.

Boy, I guess you've never felt sleepy while driving either. Or drive fast. Or start thinking about something while driving, and lose attention while on the road. Everyone does it once in a while, and it can be life-threatening...... but 99% of the time it isn't. Don't talk like your ****** doesn't stink.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: BigJ


What I find ironic is you have a CCW to protect against the worst. But you won't have a gun safe for your car when storing a gun there to protect against the worst, which would be somebody breaking into your car and stealing your weapon.

Nor do any law enforcement officers who store at least one shot gun in their cars at all times, many have tactical riffles and secondary handguns there as well. They simply store them in the truck. No special safe.

Stop being absurd, people. There is no reason to have a gun safe in a car. If the cops don't have one, I don't need one.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: sandorski

It should be "rare" and "exotic". That's the problem with Gun Proliferation, people lose respect for what a Gun is and what it can do.

Oh bullsh!t. A gun is a tool. You treat it with the same respect as you do a chainsaw or knife. It is not some mystical device that must be treated with more respect than any other potentially dangerous tool.

The problem isn't "gun proliferation" here. It's exactly the opposite. People have such an irrational fear and awe of guns that they lose sight of reality when it comes to them. That's half the fuel behind the anti-gun movement.

Kids who are raised around guns and taught proper gun safety are FAR less likely to hurt themselves or others than kids who are kept away from guns, taught nothing about them and stumble across one.

Familiarity and respect is the key to gun safety, not ignorance and dread.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: sourceninja
Sounds like you had a false memory of what you intended to do.

Yep. Happens to the best of us... no matter how much the posters here like to deny it.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: BigJ

Honestly, if he is being extreme on one end of the spectrum, you're being extreme on the other end by equating it to keys or a wallet.

Again, when you CCW you have a morning routine that includes grabbing your weapon. In THAT SPECIFIC INSTANCE it is as easy to forget to grab as your keys, your cell phone and your wallet.

Sure, take my comments out of context, why don't you... as long as it helps the hysterical arguments from the anti-gun crowd.

I'm not taking it out of context at all.

You are arguing that it becomes part of your routine and are comparing it misplacing your keys or wallet. Others are saying that you should be overly cautious and treat it like a child. It's easy to see from my comments in this thread that I'm somewhere in the middle. By allowing it to become "part of the routine," you start to lose respect for the weapon. By going concealed carry, you take on a responsibility above and beyond that of carrying a set of keys or your wallet. Minimalizing the importance or the responsibility of carrying a handgun to that of a set of keys is the extreme opposite of those comparing it to the responsibility of a child's life. I'm not saying that you should be paranoid, but the OP made a bunch of bad judgement calls concerning his firearm.

People are not judging him solely based on the fact that he left his gun at home, at least I'm not. The OP first thought he left his gun in an unlocked car in the center console, loaded and ready to go. The first problem with that is that he knew that the courthouse did not allow weapons, and that there was no place to store it at the courthouse. He shouldn't have even brought it out in the first place. On top of that, he shouldn't be storing the weapon in his car in such a position. He should've separated the ammunition from the firearm and put them in two different parts of the car at the minimum. If he's going to be storing his firearm in his car, he should have a gun safe.

The second problem with that is that he wasn't completely sure that he locked his car. If you're willing to bear the responsibility of carrying a firearm, you better be willing to take the 10 extra seconds it takes to make sure your car is locked.

Then finally we come to this thread where now the gun was found deep in his top sock drawer, where it never is. If it never gets put there, how did it? Again, irresponsibility with his firearm.

I've grown up around guns, I own 2 rifles, and my father is a retired CO of Riker's Island after 22 years of service. He has his CCW permit and I know what it's like to have grown up around someone with a CCW. To this day he still carries a revolver in an ankle holster. He's taught me to enjoy but respect firearms, whether they be handguns, rifles, or shotguns.

I am anything but anti-gun, and calling me that just because I'm pointing out that you're guilty of the same extremist view-point as the gun grabbers is asinine at best. Based on everything that has happened with the OP, I'm not saying that he should be stripped of his right to carry, but he should seriously analyze what he is doing to be a cautious gun owner.

Ask your father if he has ever forgot to strap on his CCW weapon and freaked out much later about it.

It happens to everyone at least once. Everyone has a brain fart. To claim people don't is to expect perfection from imperfect humans... and is irrational.

The OP obviously respects firearms. He had ONE bad day, and people here want to strip him of his rights over it. That's absurd.
 
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