What do you call a lecturer who doesn't have a PhD?

[Crono]

Originally posted by: sourceninja
Everyone calls me professor. I typically get them to just call me by my first name by the end of the term. They I have to re-educate all over again.

Hello, Professor Ninja.
Err... Mr. Ninja.
Oops, I mean Source.

 

[sourceninja]

Sadly, this is my last semester teaching. I'm going back to school to get a masters.

 

[Crono]

Originally posted by: sourceninja
Sadly, this is my last semester teaching. I'm going back to school to get a masters.

What do you teach? Good luck to you

 

[RKS]

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: RKS

Originally posted by: Whisper

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: sjwaste
You call him Mr. Actually, that's what you call people with a PhD too. The whole Dr vs Mr thing is rooted in southern education, from back when very few had PhD's. Nowadays, the PhD's at most prestigious universities are called Mr. like everyone else. The Dr vs Mr thing is only a holdover at less prestigious universities.

I know this because a professor at my school explained it to me, hoping that we'd drop the Dr vs Mr thing and just call everyone Mr. He did his postdoc and started at UVA, and was hoping that the custom would make its way to JMU as the program was getting better and better.

So in short, call him Mr.

That is a relatively unique thing at UVA (I believe it was started by Thomas Jefferson) - you are applying your anecdotal experience and the tradition of one school to all schools and that is quite silly.

Anyhow, it should be appropriate to address your instructor as "Professor."

I know quite a few professionals who prefer being called "Dr. _____" and who do not hail from, or work in, the south. It's more a showing of professional courtesy and respect than it is an attempt to have the ego stroked.

I think any non-medical doctor who insists on being called Dr. does want his ego stroked.

I think you beat yourself one too many times with a Stupid Stick? to come to that conclusion.

Especially in a university setting many people (i.e. instructors) do like to keep a sense of formality while in the role of an educator. This is perfectally reasonable and quite likely a good thing. I know university instructors and when representing their acadmeic field and/or the university they use "Dr. Smith" - but when it's out and about and a social setting it is "John."

Maybe I haven't been indoctrinated in the acadmeic ? / ivory tower setting long enough to know how these teachers like to stroke each other?

 

[sourceninja]

ISYS classes, some programing, systems analysis, intro operating systems (how they work and how to use the major such as win, linux, etc), and some basic networking. All first and second year stuff. I'm part time so it changes from term to term. My real job is as a programmer/system administrator.

 

[LordMorpheus]

Originally posted by: loki8481
my rule was always non-doctorate teacher or unknown status = Prof.
doctorate = Dr.
grade school teacher = Mr./Ms.

The hierarchy at a university:

Full/Tenured Professors (only Ph.D.)
Assistant Professors (only Ph.D.)
Lecturers (any degree)

So a teacher with a Ph.D. can always be called "Doctor" and sometimes "Professor."

A teacher without a Ph.D. is Mister or Mrs./Ms.

 

[Mo0o]

Just go w/ Prof

 

[wiredspider]

I avoided addressing the professors, so I wouldn't have to deal with this.

 

[Fritzo]

Frank.

All uneducated speakers are named Frank. Not sure why.

 

[blinky8225]

Originally posted by: sjwaste
You call him Mr. Actually, that's what you call people with a PhD too. The whole Dr vs Mr thing is rooted in southern education, from back when very few had PhD's. Nowadays, the PhD's at most prestigious universities are called Mr. like everyone else. The Dr vs Mr thing is only a holdover at less prestigious universities.

I know this because a professor at my school explained it to me, hoping that we'd drop the Dr vs Mr thing and just call everyone Mr. He did his postdoc and started at UVA, and was hoping that the custom would make its way to JMU as the program was getting better and better.

So in short, call him Mr.

I don't think that this is true. I go to a top ten university, and we certainly use the professor and doctor titles. It is located in the South, but my professors from Ivy League institutions don't seem to mind being called professor.

 

[Mokmo418]

Lecturers do not need the PhD.
Masters is more than enough.

Around here, you can't use the term doctor unless you are a chiro, med or dentist which is a member of his professional order. Having a PhD, you can just put PhD at the end of your signature. And the term professor sounds a little too elitist, as what separates one from the normal lecturer is the hours of research he does.

 

[Analog]

You guys have no idea what you're talking about. I am a university professor. My official title is associate professor of electrical engineering. There are assistant professors w/o PhDs. The titles are:

1. Lecturer
2. Assistant Professor
3. Associate Professor
4. Professor

None of which require a PhD. I had a full professor when I was an undergrad who only had bachelor's degree. I would recommend that you look up his title, and call him that title, whatever it is.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: loki8481
my rule was always non-doctorate teacher or unknown status = Prof.
doctorate = Dr.
grade school teacher = Mr./Ms.

:thumbsup:

 

[91TTZ]

Call him "Weeds McStone"

 

[Barfo]

Mom.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Analog
You guys have no idea what you're talking about. I am a university professor. My official title is associate professor of electrical engineering. There are assistant professors w/o PhDs. The titles are:

1. Lecturer
2. Assistant Professor
3. Associate Professor
4. Professor

None of which require a PhD. I had a full professor when I was an undergrad who only had bachelor's degree. I would recommend that you look up his title, and call him that title, whatever it is.

official title =! conversational title, though.

I can't imagine referring to an associate professor as Associate Professor Jones when asking a question or greeting them or something.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Leros

Originally posted by: bobross419
Ask him? Maybe he wants you to call him by his first name. He could be an uptight asshole that takes offense at you calling him Mr. instead of professor or think you are brown nosing by calling him Professor instead of Mr.

Nah, he's a cool guy. I just want to respect him by calling him the proper thing.

I'd also say to ask him. I sometimes have the schedule usage of test equipment with a professor, who does have a Ph.D. I simply asked him what he prefers to be called, and said he prefers to just go by his first name.

Some people want the "doctor" mentioned each and every time, and get all huffy if it's not used. Others are far less concerned.

 

[marincounty]

My father had a PHD in psychology, and he only used the Dr. when he was working in his field. He felt that only MDs can call themselves a Doctor. Anyone that has a PHD and insists upon being called doctor-is an egotistical douchebag.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Call him Leif Ericson...hinga binga borga

 

[Analog]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Analog
You guys have no idea what you're talking about. I am a university professor. My official title is associate professor of electrical engineering. There are assistant professors w/o PhDs. The titles are:

1. Lecturer
2. Assistant Professor
3. Associate Professor
4. Professor

None of which require a PhD. I had a full professor when I was an undergrad who only had bachelor's degree. I would recommend that you look up his title, and call him that title, whatever it is.

official title =! conversational title, though.

I can't imagine referring to an associate professor as Associate Professor Jones when asking a question or greeting them or something.

of course you're being too literal. 2-4 are all professor.

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: sjwaste
You call him Mr. Actually, that's what you call people with a PhD too. The whole Dr vs Mr thing is rooted in southern education, from back when very few had PhD's. Nowadays, the PhD's at most prestigious universities are called Mr. like everyone else. The Dr vs Mr thing is only a holdover at less prestigious universities.

I know this because a professor at my school explained it to me, hoping that we'd drop the Dr vs Mr thing and just call everyone Mr. He did his postdoc and started at UVA, and was hoping that the custom would make its way to JMU as the program was getting better and better.

So in short, call him Mr.

I've never met anyone at my universities who had a PhD that wasn't addressed as doctor.

Just call the guy professor. If he has a PhD, it's doctor, but if he is a lecturer, PhD or not, it's pretty safe to call him professor.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Who gives a shit? Just call him Mr. None of this pompous "professor" or "doctor" crap. Most academics are useless anyway.

 

[IGBT]

he may have more reality based experience then the Pyled Higher and Deeper flunktards that spent their whole life hiding out in school.

 

[seemingly random]

mister is probably technically correct but:

what do others call him?

is he part of a department? is there a secretary or receptionist or other teacher around to ask?

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: Analog
You guys have no idea what you're talking about. I am a university professor. My official title is associate professor of electrical engineering. There are assistant professors w/o PhDs. The titles are:

1. Lecturer
2. Assistant Professor
3. Associate Professor
4. Professor

None of which require a PhD. I had a full professor when I was an undergrad who only had bachelor's degree. I would recommend that you look up his title, and call him that title, whatever it is.

It varies from school to school. At the university where I teach, at least in my department, a doctorate is a requirement for any professorship. Any individuals who teach and do not have a doctorate are instructors rather than professors.