What do you do if you can't tell if someone is male or female?

[Cstefan]

French Polynesian RayRay!

 

[Bryophyte]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Why do you need to know the gender of every person you see or meet? If I can't tell, it doesn't affect how I deal with that person.

it does affect how you address them, however. and in a professional environment, that could degenerate into more problems than wanted

Not necessarily. Calling them by their name (asking for it is usually a great way to find out gender, coincidently, and "I'm terrible with names, what was yours again?" usually works) or saying, "excuse me" to get their attention bypasses any need to refer to his/her gender. Writing or saying "Tracy Johnson" works just as well as "Mr/Ms Johnson."

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: CrazyLazy
What do you do if meet someone new and you can't tell if they are male or female? It is becoming more and more difficult nowadays with the peoples style of dress. I think just going out there and asking them, "hey are you a dude or a chick?" would be kinda weird. Right now I don't have a good method of figuring out so I just try to avoid any words that aren't gender neutral (he, she, etc). Any advice on this?

I ask my buddies and we vote. Either way, its short-lived because if you can't tell, its not worth thinking about.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: CrazyLazy
What do you do if meet someone new and you can't tell if they are male or female? It is becoming more and more difficult nowadays with the peoples style of dress. I think just going out there and asking them, "hey are you a dude or a chick?" would be kinda weird. Right now I don't have a good method of figuring out so I just try to avoid any words that aren't gender neutral (he, she, etc). Any advice on this?

Hahaha!

Some time ago at Best Buy I went up to the register, two female employees were standing there - the one at the register was skinny, shoulder-length dark hair, feminine colored pants & feminine glasses frames. The girl employee next to her was a much hotter blond with a nice rack, so I'm diverted during checkout. Then time to pay, my eyes glance over and read the nametag of the first girl - "Mark"... look up at her face and then it's like hmmm, yep you're a guy who prefers to look and dress like a girl... I just avoided saying anything.

 

[fishjie]

its a dude

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: Imp
Ahem... First thing is to look at chest. That's about it. If it comes to that, I'm usually still confused. I'd check out their package, but I like to sleep at night.

What happens if I'm in Korea or Japan? All the guys look like girls, and the girls have flat chests

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: CrazyLazy

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Ok answer this question chick or dude?

Looks like a pretty hawt chick. Why wouldn't it be?

Because it isn't a chick http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...ber-2008.html?image=15. I wasn't really referring to cross dressers/people changing their gender in my post. I was refering to people that by their appearance and name could easily go either way.

don't those people want to be addressed as the gender they look like anyway? i would have guessed it was a girl.

 

[TallBill]

It is REALLY bad in the military when you encounter an officer that you can't tell.

Proper salutations include a "sir" or "ma'am" with your greeting of the day and a salute. It has happened to me, both times I just chimed "Air Assault" with a big smile.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Bryophyte

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Why do you need to know the gender of every person you see or meet? If I can't tell, it doesn't affect how I deal with that person.

it does affect how you address them, however. and in a professional environment, that could degenerate into more problems than wanted

Not necessarily. Calling them by their name (asking for it is usually a great way to find out gender, coincidently, and "I'm terrible with names, what was yours again?" usually works) or saying, "excuse me" to get their attention bypasses any need to refer to his/her gender. Writing or saying "Tracy Johnson" works just as well as "Mr/Ms Johnson."

dont get me wrong, ive never had any problem eventually figuring out genders, nor any trouble being diplomatic about it at all. i was offering other ideas/ views is all. fueling the log/nolog argument i guess.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: CrazyLazy

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Ok answer this question chick or dude?

Looks like a pretty hawt chick. Why wouldn't it be?

Because it isn't a chick http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...ber-2008.html?image=15. I wasn't really referring to cross dressers/people changing their gender in my post. I was refering to people that by their appearance and name could easily go either way.

don't those people want to be addressed as the gender they look like anyway? i would have guessed it was a girl.

That is a person who obviously wants to be perceived as a female. She is not someone who is androgynous.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: rudeguy
Just grab their package.

but follow it up by saying "g'day" so they think it's a normal greeting where you come from

 

[Shawn]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Ok answer this question chick or dude?

If that's not a chick that's a pretty hot tranny.

edit: Started taking hormones at 12. No wonder he looks like a woman. He basically went through puberty as a woman. Most trannies have already gone through puberty and some of those changes that occur are just not reversible.

 

[meltdown75]

What do you do if meet someone new and you can't tell if they are male or female?

where the frick you been hangin' out? actually don't answer that - i don't want to know.

i run to my computer post about it on ATOT, of course.

 

[SagaLore]

Perhaps the OP should invest in some glasses.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Originally posted by: Imp
Ahem... First thing is to look at chest. That's about it. If it comes to that, I'm usually still confused. I'd check out their package, but I like to sleep at night.

What happens if I'm in Korea or Japan? All the guys look like girls, and the girls have flat chests

I look for an Adam's apple or see if they have man hands

 

[torpid]

There's a long-running argument over a street musician here in Madison. By all outward appearances and by the sound of the person's voice, it's a man. But the sax player goes by a female name and a couple of people I know indicated that the sax player is anatomically female after some surgery. The sad thing is, the entire argument is moot. The real topic of conversation should ALWAYS be how bad this person is at playing the sax. So bad that there is a facebook group dedicated to group hatred of the sax player.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Originally posted by: torpid
There's a long-running argument over a street musician here in Madison. By all outward appearances and by the sound of the person's voice, it's a man. But the sax player goes by a female name and a couple of people I know indicated that the sax player is anatomically female after some surgery. The sad thing is, the entire argument is moot. The real topic of conversation should ALWAYS be how bad this person is at playing the sax. So bad that there is a facebook group dedicated to group hatred of the sax player.

I'm going to the UW here and haven't personally seen this player. But are they actually playing badly or is it a whatshisname Paul situation (the retarded guy who plays the guitar)?

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Ok answer this question chick or dude?

What the hell, were you raised by transvestites? That's all chick where I come from.

She may not be, but either way, she is definitely shooting for [and hitting] all the phenotypical female attributes.

And then you try to hit it, out comes a ten inch sausage, and you're left curled up in the fetal position in the bathtub crying your eyes out.

 

[Muse]

If you can't tell, just ignore your confusion. Why should you care? It's a person, treat them as such. It doesn't matter.

 

[So]

My friends and I call this game "What sex is it?" -- always a fun diversion at any crowded event.

 

[tcsenter]

Originally posted by: nerp
The ironic thing about your rather revealing comments is that transgendered people who have completed the transition are no more less "male" than naturally born males and vice versa.

Err...what are you smoking? A male will always be male and a female will always be female. Biology and chromosomes determine this, not some lipstick, hormone therapy, and a scalpel.

You can't make a penis or vagina. You can make a skin-covered protrusion that vaguely resembles a penis from 30 feet away, and you can make a slit with a pocket behind it that vaguely resembles a vagina from 30 feet away, but that's all. The current art in reconstructive transgendered surgery frankly isn't very good. I know, I was a surgical technician and first assistant for several years.

While there are exceptional if not rare cases, 99% of trannies are really and obviously bad at it and couldn't pass if they got everyone around them falling down drunk.

You've probably encountered and talked to people who have transistioned without any clue.

Possibly yes, but not probably.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: nerp

The ironic thing about your rather revealing comments is that transgendered people who have completed the transition are no more less "male" than naturally born males and vice versa.

LOL

Can we ditch the outrageous PC-nonsense? YES, we ARE saying that transgendered people aren't the real thing. Is that so wrong? I know it goes against the whole liberal movement but you can't just "will" yourself into being something that you're not meant to be. I can't declare that I'm a tree or a robot, and some regular dude can't lop off his shlong and declare that he's a woman. It just doesn't work.

I am not saying that they should be treated as less than a person or be discriminated against, but you also can't give someone a blank check to define what they are.

 

[tcsenter]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
I am not saying that they should be treated as less than a person or be discriminated against, but you also can't give someone a blank check to define what they are.

Well...you can but I don't have to go along with it. If someone wants to superglue tree bark to their body, staple roots to their feet, and call themselves a tree, more power to them. But I don't have to go along with it.

You have hit upon some excellent parallels, though. There are freaks who are actually attempting to 'transform' themselves into animals. I saw this one dude who had his entire body and face tattoo'd to look like a Bengal tiger, even had his teeth filed and crowns glued on to look like kanines. But he didn't stop there, this freak actually found some quack surgeon to insert custom silicon implants in his face to make his mouth and face resemble a cat, complete with surgically implanted whiskers!

So if lopping off their schlong and getting some implants makes a man into a woman or female, doesn't that necessarily mean this guy is now a real honest-to-goodness Bengal tiger? :roll:

 

[HaiBiss]

it is called the Australian Hello..... Like Croc Dundee

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

Originally posted by: nerp
The ironic thing about your rather revealing comments is that transgendered people who have completed the transition are no more less "male" than naturally born males and vice versa.

Err...what are you smoking? A male will always be male and a female will always be female. Biology and chromosomes determine this, not some lipstick, hormone therapy, and a scalpel.

You can't make a penis or vagina. You can make a skin-covered protrusion that vaguely resembles a penis from 30 feet away, and you can make a slit with a pocket behind it that vaguely resembles a vagina from 30 feet away, but that's all. The current art in reconstructive transgendered surgery frankly isn't very good. I know, I was a surgical technician and first assistant for several years.

While there are exceptional if not rare cases, 99% of trannies are really and obviously bad at it and couldn't pass if they got everyone around them falling down drunk.

You've probably encountered and talked to people who have transistioned without any clue.

Possibly yes, but not probably.

So you're saying there is only XX & XY , that this is immutable and no othe combinations exist?