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xyyz

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Garion,

don't you mean we're all equal under the all-powerful gaze of you and ScottMac?

as for me... i am miserably unemployed... I am/was (depending on how you look at it) a private consultant who focused on small companies (less than 20 nodes) who had no IT infrastructure... I came and and well empowered them .... now... i'm looking for any help-desk position to pay the bills... :/

in the meanwhile I am my former cisco netacad (CCNA) TA... man I still need to take that exam... and i'm struggling through the CCNP, Advanced Routing class... while playing catchup with my Intro to Solaris class.

and what's the deal with Garion (or L3guy for that matter)... how come he (these guys) doens't (don't) have elite status yet?
 

NzAnE2K

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Feb 22, 2002
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Is it possible for me to get a job that deals with computers? Im 15 and i really need a job.
 

Tallgeese

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Feb 26, 2001
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<< I found it harder to learn in a larger company. Thats why I like working at the smaller companies >>

Agreed.

For many folks, working at a large company isolates them from getting an overall picture of networks and systems in such a way that they can easily get pigeonholed, and find themselves stuck in a position (especially on a helpdesk) with no way to move up, over, or anything.

That said, being in a "small" environment can do the same thing. Many folks in small shops get a BAD case of "tunnel-vision" just trying to answer the day-to-day fires.
 

Mucman

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Oct 10, 1999
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Hmm... interesting, working for a small company has been great for learning, but I don't think I am gaining any expertise in anything... I am becoming a jack of all trades. If asked to focus on one task would be hard for me. I like the different challenges of my job for different reasons.
 

ScottMac

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(IMHO) Unless you're one of the actual IT/IS people in a large organization, the image that come to mind is a scene from "Apocalypse Now" What's-his-face is in a hotel room in Siagon, telling the listening audiance "Every day I spend in this room I get weaker, every day Charlie spends squatting in the jungle, he get's stronger" (I probably blew the quote, but that's the jist of it). Every day spent staring at a single network (or not working directly on a network), you start to get behind. If you don't take it upon yourself to pick up some books, or get some equipment of your own (PCs, LINUX, Solaris, hubs, switches, etc) and play with it, you get so far behind it's almost imposssible to catch up. That's one of the reasons I like coming to Anandtech....exposure to networking setups and scenarios I'm not likely to see on the job, or at home (I have some semi-serious stuff in the home network).

Even in a day-to-day support role (customer support), you don't really live with a network...you help folks put out fires, look up code compatibility and interoperability issues...stuff like that. To some degree, even if you ARE one of the network folks in IT/IS, you only live with a specific subset of the available universe of networking equipment. Most of the problems you see are recurrent and specific to the layout of your network.

If you're lucky/unlucky enough to be working on huge networks, you get to see a lot of stuff. If you're in a small-to-midsize place, chances are you're not going to be hands-on with the hardware that much....a great place to start, because you kind of work into the roles assigned to you....but the challenge kinda wears off after a while.

If you want to learn a broad spectrum of equipment (even within a specific subset, like Cisco, who has equipment in just about every arena), probably the best job is a small consulting / rent-a-body place, where you work on a couple different networks on a regular basis. The variety of equipment and configurations forces you to think and learn...makes you more flexible...gets you out of the "If the only tool you have is a hammer, all the problems start to look like nails" mode.

The tough part for the newbies is looking beyond the performance and "IWBC" factors (It Would Be Cool), and look at things like ongoing maintenance, vendor support, reliability, monitoring capability, scaling and growth potential....and a proverbial sh!tload of other "interesting" parameters. For those of you in pursuit of better/gainful employment...you may want to mention these kind of issues to the person doing the interview.......

And, for the Mucman, it doesn't hurt to be a jack-of-all-trades. Generalists are a valuable commodity. Best case, learn about the entire system, then go a little deeper on the sub-systems that you find the most interesting. In the US Submarine Service, every guy on the boat has to learn how to do everything, even though they are highly specialized in one (or two) areas... versatility can save the ship.

Anyway...that's my take on it...um, what was the question again? (Damn drugs........)

FWIW

Scott
 

Tallgeese

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<< The tough part for the newbies is looking beyond the performance and "IWBC" factors (It Would Be Cool), and look at things like ongoing maintenance, vendor support, reliability, monitoring capability, scaling and growth potential....and a proverbial sh!tload of other "interesting" parameters. >>

IMNSHO, I consider this the SINGLE most defining trait that separates the veteran from the newbie, and the competent from the incompetent.
I know a BOATLOAD of "gurus" with 10 or more years doin' this stuff who've never learned this all-important skill.

P.S. I'm catchin' ya Scott!
 

SaigonK

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www.robertrivas.com
Well here is my info...

I work for the oldest Semiconductor facility in the world, hell we invented the IC
Anyway...currently reside in a building of about 650 users with about 750 machines, numerous Windows 2k, NT, HP SCO, Novell , and you name it boxes.
I support local and remote users on damn near ebveryhting...VPN, networks, Wna. Lan, Novell Administration, Citrix, DHCP, everything...


I have to agree that being in small company would probably make me stagnant.
Being in a large company we have the wallet to get new technology, hire new, smarter, faster, stronger consultants and as such iget to see and hear and learn more and more each day!
 

Garion

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<< Garion,

don't you mean we're all equal under the all-powerful gaze of you and ScottMac?
>>



Sure - We all offer different things. For example, it's been a long time since I've done much with small peer-to-peer networks and really don't know all too much about the different SOHO routers. You wanna know about an reverse proxy that can handle 600Mb/s of streaming video - I'm your guy. But most of the questions around here are really about the fundementals of networking and SOHO environments - You're probably just as good, if not better, at answering those kinds of questions than I am.. Don't you (or anyone else) sell yourself short - Around here, it's not just what you know but how willing you are to help others and provide information for the rest of the community.

- G
 

jkukowsk

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My day starts off with me ridding a big yellow bus to the high school (yep, I'm only a sophomore and can't drive for another six months). I stay there for about seven hours doing various things so every nine weeks I can get a piece of paper stating that I have A's and B's in classes and ditched once or twice to go to Denny's with my friends to have breakfast. I then ride that same bus home have a quick snack and unless I'm in a sport (the fall) I will go on the computer and try one of the three things

1.) Get Windows working again because the Windows patch I installed last night only played well before the reboot.

2.) Try to get a deeper knowledge of Linux so I can stop having to deal with answer 1.

3.) If answer 1 didn't happen or I don't feel like answer 2 I will be working on my website, editing my digital camera photos, taking digital camera photos, posting on this and various other forums, or playing Counter Strike / Medal of Honor Allied Assault.

There is more in that last category but I figure that's enought for tonight.
 

JustinLerner

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SaigonK


<< Well here is my info...
I work for the oldest Semiconductor facility in the world, hell we invented the IC
. . . .
>>

The inventors of the IC were the founders of Fairchild Semiconductor and two of them later left and founded Intel, right? Of course, the foundations of the IC, the transistor were invented at Bell Labs, right?
 

drquest

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I have what I consider a pretty fun job.... I'm the Broadband manager for a cable company and run the operations for 4 sites in 3 states with nearly 5,000 customers (we add over 100 new subs a week)

I was dealing directly with just the technical side of the business but recently was given the whole magilla. I get to work with some cool technology, high end routers... etc... plus we do fiber interconnects for businesses and cities/schools. I have a lot of good people I work with and it's quite a challenge every day.

mrpeabody
 

ttn1

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I am a lifelong student. I am currently working on my Phd in Mechanical Engineering. My advisor
is somewhat of a jack-of-all-trades and would like his students to be as well. My project has required
me to become proficient in optical, electrical and mechanical engineering. Hopefully, I will be able to
finish soon and move into the "real" world.

As for networking, it is one of my many hobbies that revolve around computing. I also enjoy open source
projects. After installing linux to create a router for my cable modem about 2 years ago, I was hooked.
Now I just can't pass up a new project I come across without trying it out.
 

Scarpozzi

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I'm a junior in college (and have been for over a year). Plus, I just happen to be an Enterprise Server Administrator for the university...and waiting on free tuition. I also work for a major portrait company's national headquarters doing technical support and data control...but I'm only being nice to help them out for extra$$. I also run 2 websites in my spare time...when I have some.
 

Nutz

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Sep 3, 2000
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5 years with the USAF as a 3C0, or Net Admin, but I have only worked in an NCC enviroment for roughly 18 months.

I think they think by keeping our experience low that they'll be able to keep us in longer so we don't get out early with lots of experience. I guess you have to know the whole story of how my career field is getting $60k reenlistment bonuses....
 

blstriker

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Oct 22, 1999
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I'm a md/phd student (working on the phd part right now) at a west coast school. Full time computer geek.
 

Hoober

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I'm a senior in college working for the school's tech department troubleshooting network/hardware/software issues. Mainly more Help Desk stuff than networking, but I get to play around every now and then. Came here to learn the basics of networking so I could build one and play with it at home. Got stuck and been here since.
 

BlitzRommel

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Dec 13, 1999
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I'm a computer teacher at a crappy catholic grade school -- a junior in College. Technically, I'm a lab supervisor, but the stupid principal has me give the kids things to do.

Next project for the kindergarteners: develop an algorithm that will continually print prime numbers, starting with 1.

Hehe
 

Need4Speed

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Dec 27, 1999
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Mechanical Engineer.

Design and test shibboard systems for communication, navigation and switching.
 

Stiltman

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I'm a sysadmin for a small college in Ohio. After coming on board several years ago, I've upped us from 10Mb hubs to 10/100 switches, replaced machines that were running Win 3.11 to Win9x. Now things are fairly stagnant due to the economy and the general lack of funding (we're privately held, not public) so I get to do "odd jobs" in order to make my days not boring. I just got my MCSA/MCSE in late February so I'll now contemplating my options.
 

Woodchuck2000

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I'm a network technician at a school (read - big budget ) working for a year before I go off to university...

I've spent the past 6 months teaching myself windows 2000 out of necessity (the school having upgraded without anyone in residence having a clue how to look after the system) and am currently studying for an MCSE in windows 2000.
 

n0cmonkey

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One of my problems is my lack of Windows knowledge. Ive considered looking for a job at a university (wanting to go back to school and all), but most of them seem to be Microsoft centric....
 

TheOmegaCode

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Aug 7, 2001
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<< One of my problems is my lack of Windows knowledge. Ive considered looking for a job at a university (wanting to go back to school and all), but most of them seem to be Microsoft centric.... >>


Whats there to know about Windows? Hit enter 20 times, and you've got yourself an OS. Click here and there, and you've got a server... Serious, you could learn most of what there is to know about WindowsNT based machines in a few months... I'd give you one month to become proficient...


Me? I am Frosh at my local JC. I also work as a computer Intern for the county office of ed... I repair Apples, PC's, set up wireless networks, and mess with my Nix box insted of doing work...
 

n0cmonkey

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<<

<< One of my problems is my lack of Windows knowledge. Ive considered looking for a job at a university (wanting to go back to school and all), but most of them seem to be Microsoft centric.... >>


Whats there to know about Windows? Hit enter 20 times, and you've got yourself an OS. Click here and there, and you've got a server... Serious, you could learn most of what there is to know about WindowsNT based machines in a few months... I'd give you one month to become proficient...
>>



Basic usage Im fine with. The intricacies of a Microsoft network confuse me, and I dont have the money or computers to invest in a play setup.


 

FUBAR

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Well, as for me, by day I work for a crappy little (100+emp) consulting company doing coding and such for clients. When the customers aren't asking for new features, I do some Solaris admin on aging sun boxes. By nite I'm a moderate linux advocate and tech support for family, friends and others. I say moderate because I only support it where linux is well suited, I.E. not for the guy who wants it on his E4500 but yes for my buddy that works at Microsoft (true story.)

In a former (college) life I was a tech support person for a local ISP, and when I wasn't on the phone (under 25% of the time was with the customer) I did server admin on the boxes running mostly RedHat and one or 2 2k boxes.

Working for a smaller company (the ISP) was great because I got to do anything as long as I promised not to screw up the world, and if I did, stay until I fixed it. Working for this company blows because of the penny pinching accountants that are more my boss than my boss, who is in another town. That and that our business model sucks, which forces us to be penny pinching. BTW, anyone looking for help? heheheh...
 
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