What do you expect will happen to your consciousness when you die?

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Lifer
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I saw a science show once (not sure if was How the Universe Works or another one), but this theory is basically what quantum physics points towards happening. Your consciousness becomes one with the cosmos when you die. And that in turn can somewhat explain the near-death experiences people claim to experience (out of body experience, entire life flashing before your eyes, light at the end of the tunnel, etc).

Here's an article about it: http://www.wakingtimes.com/2013/02/09/near-death-experiences-explained-by-quantum-physicists/
Very cool, haven't heard of that before. Thanks! :thumbsup:
 
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śarīraḿ yad avāpnoti
yac cāpy utkrāmatīśvaraḥ
gṛhītvaitāni saḿyāti
vāyur gandhān ivāśayāt


TRANSLATION

The living entity in the material world carries his different conceptions of life from one body to another as the air carries aromas. Thus he takes one kind of body and again quits it to take another.

PURPORT

Here the living entity is described as īśvara, the controller of his own body. If he likes, he can change his body to a higher grade, and if he likes he can move to a lower class. Minute independence is there. The change his body undergoes depends upon him. At the time of death, the consciousness he has created will carry him on to the next type of body. If he has made his consciousness like that of a cat or dog, he is sure to change to a cat's or dog's body. And if he has fixed his consciousness on godly qualities, he will change into the form of a demigod. And if he is in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, he will be transferred to Kṛṣṇaloka in the spiritual world and will associate with Kṛṣṇa. It is a false claim that after the annihilation of this body everything is finished. The individual soul is transmigrating from one body to another, and his present body and present activities are the background of his next body. One gets a different body according to karma, and he has to quit this body in due course. It is stated here that the subtle body, which carries the conception of the next body, develops another body in the next life. This process of transmigrating from one body to another and struggling while in the body is called karṣati, or struggle for existence.



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rga

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It will seek a new host in the form of an unborn human infant.

I like to think that deja vu are actual experiences my concious has had in previous physical bodies, so I hope that this is what happens, but

I dont understand why people care so much.

It'll just be like going to sleep. You don't remember going to sleep every single night, and what happened during that time do you?

Exact same thing. Just nothingness.

seems to be the most logical thing that happens.
 

OBLAMA2009

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in my former career i was around many people at the moment of death and i never saw any evidence that it was a moment of glory or horror. no hint of an afterlife whatsoever...
 

Vaux

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Yeah I think when you die, nothing happens. Just like when you pull the plug on your computer, everything shuts down.

Dreamless sleep forever and ever.
 

pmv

Lifer
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I have no idea, but I pretty much agree with what the posts said below. It's just as possible nothing happens and the lights just go out, but I'd rather believe something like below since we don't know anyway. Why not?

In seriousness, I think the most likely outcome by far is just the nothingness.

The reason is that dying is a continuum, a continuous process, not an all-or-nothing switch. In the midst of life we are in death!

So if you believe your conciousness goes somewhere else and continues to exist in some sense, you have to ask 'which conciousness?'. Because it changes constantly.

Say you get Altzheimers for decades before you die. Or you suffer a stroke or injury that causes brain damage shortly before you expire. Is it your damaged, demented self that experiences this afterlife? That doesn't sound much fun.

So you could try and get round this and say you are magically healed and somehow rewind back to your idealised pre-damaged self when you die. But then how do you define 'damage'? Even when bad things happen and damage you, its still part of you. If you undo all trauma, all forms of damage, then is it really you any more? Life is a process of accruing damage. I don't see what this idealised, perfect self actually is, your self is the actual existing self, complete with all the bad stuff. And by the end, by your final moments in this world, its probably pretty much _all_ bad stuff.

I might be taking this thread too seriously.
 

Braznor

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The funny thing is that no one knows what consciousness exactly is so far yet. :whiste:
 

SlitheryDee

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I dont understand why people care so much.

It'll just be like going to sleep. You don't remember going to sleep every single night, and what happened during that time do you?

Exact same thing. Just nothingness.

Every afterlife-centric thread there's always someone who says this. I don't understand it AT ALL. I care because I don't want to go to sleep forever. I think that sucks and is a huge fucking problem. You can't just brush it off like it's nothing. And it certainly won't be like any sleep I've ever had, because I was at least alive during those. The only reason you're even able to compare it to sleep is because in you realize that you can't remember sleeping. You were still there when you were asleep, you just don't remember it. When you die you aren't there anymore and you don't remember it because there really is nothing to remember. It's a qualitatively different thing in every way.

I'm not saying you have to live your life thinking about it all the time, but when you do consider it, the only appropriate emotion to be feeling is abject terror. You certainly shouldn't be so nonchalant about it.
 

IGBT

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we are all vapor wear. We go where the steam from the kettle goes.
 

Jeff7

Lifer
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Every afterlife-centric thread there's always someone who says this. I don't understand it AT ALL. I care because I don't want to go to sleep forever. I think that sucks and is a huge fucking problem. You can't just brush it off like it's nothing. And it certainly won't be like any sleep I've ever had, because I was at least alive during those. The only reason you're even able to compare it to sleep is because in you realize that you can't remember sleeping. You were still there when you were asleep, you just don't remember it. When you die you aren't there anymore and you don't remember it because there really is nothing to remember. It's a qualitatively different thing in every way.

I'm not saying you have to live your life thinking about it all the time, but when you do consider it, the only appropriate emotion to be feeling is abject terror. You certainly shouldn't be so nonchalant about it.
But from the observer's view, the primary difference is that sleep is temporary, and you again enter a state where it is possible to call up memories of a time before you were asleep. If you were to enter an unconscious state for 30,000 years, and then return to consciousness, it would appear no different than if you had been unconscious for 30,000 seconds. (Assuming no physical degradation, of course.)

Within that specific window of time though, the observer effectively ceases to be. If you're unconscious, your ability to observe disappears. So if your observer's window of time is only 20,000 seconds, then death would appear to be little different than sleep. You're not able to be aware of your own condition, or whether you're even alive or dead.

Death simply lacks that "return to consciousness" part.
 

HeXen

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I'll fade out, likely go into a dreamlike state that quickly gets more and more distorted until it's all black and like I never existed just like every living organism that dies on this planet. Only the dreamer's and wisher's want to think otherwise because the idea of reality scares them.
 
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