SsupernovaE
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If they're going to have them, they need to be randomized so that random idiots can't advertise the best way to avoid them while shitfaced.
Originally posted by: CadetLee
They're alright with me, but they're 'advertised' ahead of time up here. Would be nice to double patrols on the convenient 'bypass' roads during the time of the checkpoint...
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: CadetLee
They're alright with me, but they're 'advertised' ahead of time up here. Would be nice to double patrols on the convenient 'bypass' roads during the time of the checkpoint...
Here in Modesto, the cops usually set up a perimeter several blocks around the DUI checkpoints. Anyone who makes a u-turn or turns off close to the checkpoint is likely to get stopped and scrutinized carefully. Yes, that sets up some slippery-slope arguments, but since it's been proven (at least here) that if people SEE the DUI checkpoint and have a reason to believe they might be ticketed or even arrested, they will then try to avoid said checkpoint...
The cops usually announce they will be having DUI checkpoints on certain days, but don't disclose the location. That falls to the local radio stations who pass on reports from motorists. :roll:
Originally posted by: moshquerade
the only ones who fear them are drunks
Originally posted by: Mojoed
For some strange reason, this thread reminds me of that Best Buy thread where someone threw a fit over being asked to show their receipt.
I'm willing to bet the people who think DUI checkpoints are a bad idea are the same people who would refuse to show their receipt when asked.
DUI checkpoints save lives. Period. You are selfish if you think checkpoints are stupid just because it costs you a few minutes of your time. It seems some of you take this personally.
It's about saving lives, not about your convenience. Get over yourselves.
Originally posted by: altonb1
Originally posted by: moshquerade
the only ones who fear them are drunks
I don't think anyone here has said they were fearful of them--just annoyed by them.
My biggest issue is they cause backups on the road and they use it as a catch-all for everything - seatbelts, registration expirations, etc. I admit that I don't always buckly my seatbelt, but that should be MY decision.
I would also like to see them concentrate on additional patrols and/or quicker response times when an erratic driver is reported. I have called state police numerous times to report suspected DUI drivers. I have literally followed a guy for 20 minutes AFTER calling it in and never saw a cop show up even though I gave them exact info on where we were and the direction we were heading.
DUI checkpoints really don't catch many people. They simply increase revenue for the district/state/whatever when they issue the "extra" tickets in the process.
Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Originally posted by: BoomerD
I'd like to see them used more often, and in more places...like outside every bar or tavern.
Oh, that would be profiling.
profiling = the bad.
If police could enforce deportation orders, we could seriously affect crime rates. But noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, they aren't ALLOWED !!
And if they just jailed all men, rape would be almost nonexistant.
You can go ahead and live in your homogeneous pod-person society if you want.
Sarcasm meter dead, wtf do you mean?
'Jail all men' Preemptively , I assume?
This is probably the singular most asinine response I've ever seen on ATOT.
Originally posted by: moshquerade
if only one person is caught at a checkpoint drinking and driving and had otherwise driven down the road and killed someone, the inconvenience to any other citizens is negligible.
Originally posted by: moshquerade
the only ones who fear them are drunks
if only one person is caught at a checkpoint drinking and driving and had otherwise driven down the road and killed someone, the inconvenience to any other citizens is negligible.
Originally posted by: altonb1
Originally posted by: moshquerade
the only ones who fear them are drunks
I don't think anyone here has said they were fearful of them--just annoyed by them.
My biggest issue is they cause backups on the road and they use it as a catch-all for everything - seatbelts, registration expirations, etc. I admit that I don't always buckly my seatbelt, but that should be MY decision.
I would also like to see them concentrate on additional patrols and/or quicker response times when an erratic driver is reported. I have called state police numerous times to report suspected DUI drivers. I have literally followed a guy for 20 minutes AFTER calling it in and never saw a cop show up even though I gave them exact info on where we were and the direction we were heading.
DUI checkpoints really don't catch many people. They simply increase revenue for the district/state/whatever when they issue the "extra" tickets in the process.
Originally posted by: SampSon
I don't have a problem with them.
They may be inconvenient and a waste of police protection funds but if you're not drinking and driving then you have little to worry about.
if only one person is caught at a checkpoint drinking and driving and had otherwise driven down the road and killed someone, the inconvenience to any other citizens is negligible.
Originally posted by: ZeroIQ
Originally posted by: Mojoed
For some strange reason, this thread reminds me of that Best Buy thread where someone threw a fit over being asked to show their receipt.
I'm willing to bet the people who think DUI checkpoints are a bad idea are the same people who would refuse to show their receipt when asked.
DUI checkpoints save lives. Period. You are selfish if you think checkpoints are stupid just because it costs you a few minutes of your time. It seems some of you take this personally.
It's about saving lives, not about your convenience. Get over yourselves.
We take your freedom away for your safety. Pretty soon we'll have checkpoints at state lines to make sure we don't have warrants out, for our safety of course.
:thumbsdown:
Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: moshquerade
the only ones who fear them are drunksif only one person is caught at a checkpoint drinking and driving and had otherwise driven down the road and killed someone, the inconvenience to any other citizens is negligible.
I think you need to reread The United States Constitution and the Federalist Papers.
Originally posted by: Mojoed
Give me a break. I will never eeeeeeeever buy into this. We will never have checkpoints at state lines like that. I know your type. "Ohhh, but what's to stop them from passing new laws that allow for stops at state lines, etc" Common friggen sense, that's what. Just because "A" happens does not necessarily mean "B" will happen. The only people who should worry are drunks.
You people take the constitution too literally. I don't believe for a second our fore-fathers would have an issue with DUI stops had it been something they actually envisioned. You'll argue forever that the fact that these stops occur means our rights, freedoms and liberties are automatically eroding. The only thing that's eroding is common sense. DUI stops do not take away freedom. You're free to go where ever the hell you want. The definition of freedom for some people is really out there. Using my example above, I bet you're the type that would throw a fit if ever asked to show your receipt because your "freedom" is being compromised. :roll:
Originally posted by: coldmeat
They help get idiots off the road.
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: coldmeat
They help get idiots off the road.
Not really...most only tie up innocent people (sometimes an hour) and most arrested just barely failed the breath test and more than likely would not be involved in any incident.
It's about a $5000 profit per arrest though.