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ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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Er, why are you looking for originality in matters of public policy? This isn't art. She isn't making movies or songs.

Virtually no ideas put forth by any pols have never been put forth by anyone before.

Dont mind grandpa, he just sits in the corner and rambles from time to time about those stinking whippersnappers
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
Jan 6, 2005
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Meanwhile, the GOP could barely get their actual together while controlling all of Congress and the presidency. What major legislation did they pass? Permanent tax cuts for the wealthy.
The third explanation is that they never anticipated actually winning the Presidency, and their entire caucus came to power on an agenda of disrupting Obama, and were aligned to doing to same to Clinton. They’ve been too focused on the judiciary to worry about legislation.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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I know I am repeating myself here but I have to say it..

I LOVE the conservative hysteria over "socialst" AOC.
Never have I seen a group of old men collectively shit their pants like this.
Magnificent.
I hear Afghanistan is running low on old bigoted men, maybe you guys could give that a try?
 
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ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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The third explanation is that they never anticipated actually winning the Presidency, and their entire caucus came to power on an agenda of disrupting Obama, and were aligned to doing to same to Clinton. They’ve been too focused on the judiciary to worry about legislation.

Good, maybe American's will stop voting for people who fight so hard for the ball just to fumble it. Their legacy of total control came down to giving piles of cash to people with piles of cash, permanently, at the middle classes expense.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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Starbuck1975

Lifer
Jan 6, 2005
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I know I am repeating myself here but I have to say it..

I LOVE the conservative hysteria over "socialst" AOC.
Never have I seen a group of old men collectively shit their pants like this.
Magnificent.
I hear Afghanistan is running low on old bigoted men, maybe you guys could give that a try?
While they are duping you with what you perceive as hysteria, they are effectively exploiting her as a lightning rod and wedge. They want her front and center because she is the key to disrupting Pelosi and monopolizing the news cycles.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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While they are duping you with what you perceive as hysteria, they are effectively exploiting her as a lightning rod and wedge. They want her front and center because she is the key to disrupting Pelosi and monopolizing the news cycles.

The divide is already there. All Fox is achieving is looking even more rabid day by day.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Yes you've got that right. Conservatives have criticized the media for making her into such a sensation but I don't think they understand what makes someone a media sensation. They think it's because she's far left and that fits with what they see as the media's bias. Yet there are other far left pols who don't get this attention. She got it first and foremost because she came in as a darkhorse and defeated an establishment pol with a long history. That itself was legitimately newsworthy.

And yes, also because she's pretty. Anyone who hasn't figured that out about the media doesn't really understand the media at all. People like AOC get lots of attention because they sell newspapers and advertising hits on websites.

And now also because the right has made her into this boogeyman. That more than anything is why the attention continues to this extent.

It's relevant to recall that CNN and other networks gave Trump tons of free advertising during the election, more or less hoping that all one needed to do was let him destroy himself. That backfired. Now Fox and the rest of the Derposphere seem to be deploying the same strategy with AOC--but it looks like they aren't letting her speak: just put up a single frame of her in mid-laugh or whatever, when her eyes are all bugged out, as you do as an experienced propagandist, and narrate to your viewers the things that you claim she said recently, regardless of one that photo snapped.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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The divide is already there. All Fox is achieving is looking even more rabid day by day.
By design and with intent. The narrative is clear as day, depict AOC and her cohorts as rabid socialists, and force the Democrats to muzzle them.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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By design and with intent. The narrative is clear as day, depict AOC and her cohorts as rabid socialists, and force the Democrats to muzzle them.
ok. good luck with that.
How does taliban maintain power in Afghanistan? Analogs? Anything? Short of Fox and GOP rolling out the AK's (and it WOULD be AK's not AR's), they are digging their own graves. Have at it. Please do smear AOC some more.. Martyrdom without dying... she is that good.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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You made his point lol

The point is that ideas don’t have merit based on how new they are. No person with a brain in their head should give a single shit if her ideas are new, they should care if they are good.

Also, conservatives are hardly in a place to complain about a lack of new ideas considering their answer to every problem is ‘cut taxes for rich people’.
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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By design and with intent. The narrative is clear as day, depict AOC and her cohorts as rabid socialists, and force the Democrats to muzzle them.
Wrong, they are trying to depict all Democrats as rabid socialists to reinforce the Republican base to vote R in 2020. They (Repubs) don't want them muzzled, they want them front and center to use as a paintbrush for the opposing party. That will be Trump's main rant in his campaign, we can't let the US become Venezuela.
Socialist has now replaced liberal/progressive at Fox News.
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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What do I think of her? She will do well with Democrats, she promises lots of free stuff and continues the leftist trend of lowering the bar when it comes to personal responsibility. She doesn't seem smart enough to grasp that ultimately things do have to be paid for. She is going to push the Democrats even further left of common sense.

In a way I have to give the OP praise. He and I obviously have different ideas of how to move America forward, but I give him credit for putting America above Israel. Glad to see him embrace anti-Israel politicians for his view of what is best for America, at least the OP doesn't have "dual loyalties."
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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What do I think of her? She will do well with Democrats, she promises lots of free stuff and continues the leftist trend of lowering the bar when it comes to personal responsibility. She doesn't seem smart enough to grasp that ultimately things do have to be paid for. She is going to push the Democrats even further left of common sense.
Have those tax cuts paid for themselves yet?
 

UberNeuman

Lifer
Nov 4, 1999
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Wrong, they are trying to depict all Democrats as rabid socialists to reinforce the Republican base to vote R in 2020. They (Repubs) don't want them muzzled, they want them front and center to use as a paintbrush for the opposing party. That will be Trump's main rant in his campaign, we can't let the US become Venezuela.

“But, Hillary” doesn’t deal in truth.

Everything is the fault of Democrats, not the GOP or its voting base. lol.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
110,820
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What do I think of her? She will do well with Democrats, she promises lots of free stuff and continues the leftist trend of lowering the bar when it comes to personal responsibility. She doesn't seem smart enough to grasp that ultimately things do have to be paid for. She is going to push the Democrats even further left of common sense.

In a way I have to give the OP praise. He and I obviously have different ideas of how to move America forward, but I give him credit for putting America above Israel. Glad to see him embrace anti-Israel politicians for his view of what is best for America, at least the OP doesn't have "dual loyalties."


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